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What pisses me off is that the landing has been overshadowed by how SJW feel about the shirt. This is a ****** great achievement for science.

I know that's what also really pisses me off.

 

This is incredible, this is like the Viking 1 touching down on Mars and yet the media focuses on the butthurt morons.

 

Christ almighty, Confucius sums it up best:

 

“When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.”


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People evaluatung games based soley on their graphics bums me out...

...then again, you did mention all shooters, which is a genre which have had the same mechanics by and large for the last two decades, so I guess I can understand it...

I didn't evaluate the game. I haven't played it myself, although I've heard it's not too dissimilar from FC3. Which means I'll probably only play it if a demo is released. I specifically mentioned it's art style and how I didn't like it for various reasons. I thought a visual comparison would help.



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I know that's what also really pisses me off.

 

This is incredible, this is like the Viking 1 touching down on Mars and yet the media focuses on the butthurt morons.

 

Christ almighty, Confucius sums it up best:

 

“When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.”

 

 

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Describes contemporary feminism.


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What happened to Philae probe scientist Matt Taylor. A monumental accomplishment for the ESA and science in general gets muddied because some dumbasses don't like the fact that he was wearing a shirt with scantly clad women on it given to him by his girlfriend. 

 

Agreed. This momentous occasion in scientific history has been overshadowed by a somewhat off-color shirt. People have tried using this shirt to illustrate a so-called "larger problem" but I don't buy it. I think a lot of it is borne out of jealousy and resentment of men in the field (and in general), and tensions are also still running high from the Gamergate debacle. People are pissed off and quick on the draw, and Matt Taylor and his tacky shirt just happen to be the nearest targets.

 

But that's just this man's opinion. Take it for what its worth (which likely isn't much if you're on the opposite of the fence).


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This image made my day!

 

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This image made my day!

 

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Can I be mos def? :D


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Can I be mos def? :D

 

No.

 

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Not being able to play Dragon Age: Inquisition even though it's installed and right there in front of MAH FACE! 


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Describes contemporary feminism.

 

This is what I was wearing when I landed a probe on a comet. Tell me I was asking for it. I dare you.

 

Not being able to play Dragon Age: Inquisition even though it's installed and right there in front of MAH FACE! 

 

I just know my PC won't be able to handle it. It meets minimum requirements, but it's been having display driver issues and temp problems for awhile and it's just been getting steadily worse. I can't even play DA2 in fullscreen anymore, but strangely it can still handle modded Skyrim at 2560x1600. I've dusted it and all that, updated drivers, etc. It's just getting old. I'm ready for some major disappointment tomorrow but still holding out a little hope.

 

Worst part is I was planning on building a new PC around this time but then certain expenses popped up and scratched that out for a few months.


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I just know my PC won't be able to handle it. It meets minimum requirements, but it's been having display driver issues and temp problems for awhile and it's just been getting steadily worse. I can't even play DA2 in fullscreen anymore, but strangely it can still handle modded Skyrim at 2560x1600. I've dusted it and all that, updated drivers, etc. It's just getting old. I'm ready for some major disappointment tomorrow but still holding out a little hope.

 

Worst part is I was planning on building a new PC around this time but then certain expenses popped up and scratched that out for a few months.

Sorry to hear that, I just put in my new cpu in the hopes i'd be able to play the game at the best settings, ordered a new 8gig ram stick to bring me up to 16 gigs of ram, but the damn thing hasn't even been shipped yet (Thanks Amazon). This may be the last game i ever play and I wanted my first experience with it to be perfect. :( We all suffer setbacks but we are here I suppose and the fact that we are able to even attempt experiencing this well experience means we are pretty well off, I guess we both have to look at the brighter side of things.



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I didn't evaluate the game. I haven't played it myself, although I've heard it's not too dissimilar from FC3. Which means I'll probably only play it if a demo is released. I specifically mentioned it's art style and how I didn't like it for various reasons. I thought a visual comparison would help.


Fair. Still, using words like "abysmal" make it sound like having graphics today that would have been top shelf five years ago is a crime, which is a bit silly to me. I'm just of the mindset that game development has suffered immensely under this constant need for "new and shiny" with every game's release.

If an excellent game can be made worse to someone with sub-par graphics, that implies to me that a crap game can be covered up by fancy graphics to that same person as well. Which bums me out.
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This is what I was wearing when I landed a probe on a comet. Tell me I was asking for it. I dare you.

 

 

I just know my PC won't be able to handle it. It meets minimum requirements, but it's been having display driver issues and temp problems for awhile and it's just been getting steadily worse. I can't even play DA2 in fullscreen anymore, but strangely it can still handle modded Skyrim at 2560x1600. I've dusted it and all that, updated drivers, etc. It's just getting old. I'm ready for some major disappointment tomorrow but still holding out a little hope.

 

Worst part is I was planning on building a new PC around this time but then certain expenses popped up and scratched that out for a few months.

 

Don't worry. If you can play modded skyrim at 2560x1600, you can at least play DA:I at 1024x768!


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Fair. Still, using words like "abysmal" make it sound like having graphics today that would have been top shelf five years ago is a crime, which is a bit silly to me. I'm just of the mindset that game development has suffered immensely under this constant need for "new and shiny" with every game's release.

If an excellent game can be made worse to someone with sub-par graphics, that implies to me that a crap game can be covered up by fancy graphics to that same person as well. Which bums me out.

It should be. I didn't buy a PS4 to play games that look like they're from 2010.

 

If said person holds graphics above all else, then, yes.



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It should be. I didn't buy a PS4 to play games that look like they're from 2010.

 

If said person holds graphics above all else, then, yes.

 

If I had bags of gold coins I still wouldn't know which one to get: PS3 or PS4.

Both have their pros and cons.



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It should be. I didn't buy a PS4 to play games that look like they're from 2010.

If said person holds graphics above all else, then, yes.


The fact that anyone would hold graphics at that high regard is their prerogative. It just Buns me out that those people exist.

Let's just surpass the Uncanny Valley already so this graphics arms race can end and people will actually have to come to terms with the fact that we've been playing the same games for the past two decades.

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If I had bags of gold coins I still wouldn't know which one to get: PS3 or PS4.

Both have their pros and cons.

I skipped the PS3 and went with a PS4. I have a 360 and it's better for the multiplat games that are also on PS3. There's a larger library of games on PS3. It all depends on what you want.

 

The fact that anyone would hold graphics at that high regard is their prerogative. It just Buns me out that those people exist.

Let's just surpass the Uncanny Valley already so this graphics arms race can end and people will actually have to come to terms with the fact that we've been playing the same games for the past two decades.

Why does it bum you out?



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Why does it bum you out?

If it was just a matter of people in the world having different tastes, I wouldn't be bummed out. But since these attitudes directly affect the buying decisions of many people, it shapes and molds the industry, effectively meaning that the industry can spend $200 million dollars developing a game with fancy graphics that will sell great - likely because of the $250 million dollar marketing campaign.

This makes games that offer something outside the norm more and more rare, while also pushing the graphics envelope higher, meaning games that even want to try something more simple or innovative that doesn't need to cater to a wide audience still needs to cater to a wide enough audience to capture millions of units sold, which limits innovation to ideas that are proven to sell games.

Essentially, addiciton to a constantly improved benchmark of graphics adds more expense to the industry every year, reinforcing mediocrity and a lack of innovation in packaging, approach, content and mechanics. And that bums me out.
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What happened to Philae probe scientist Matt Taylor. A monumental accomplishment for the ESA and science in general gets muddied because some dumbasses don't like the fact that he was wearing a shirt with scantly clad women on it given to him by his girlfriend. 

 

Yeah man, this is a guy with tattoos, clearly he's not the clean-shaven scientist type who likes to always be seen in formal clothing and a lab coat. The shirt IMO looks ridiculous but if that's his fashion sense and how he wants to express himself then so be it. Perfect use for the Joker meme here:

 

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The guy broke down in tears later apologizing. He was really crying for the stupidity he had witnessed.



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Yeah man, this is a guy with tattoos, clearly he's not the clean-shaven scientist type who likes to always be seen in formal clothing and a lab coat. The shirt IMO looks ridiculous but if that's his fashion sense and how he wants to express himself then so be it. Perfect use for the Joker meme here:

 

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The guy broke down in tears later apologizing. He was really crying for the stupidity he had witnessed.

 

What occasion did he wear that shirt?

 

Holy crap, Dr. Taylor's kinda hot.



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If it was just a matter of people in the world having different tastes, I wouldn't be bummed out. But since these attitudes directly affect the buying decisions of many people, it shapes and molds the industry, effectively meaning that the industry can spend $200 million dollars developing a game with fancy graphics that will sell great - likely because of the $250 million dollar marketing campaign.

This makes games that offer something outside the norm more and more rare, while also pushing the graphics envelope higher, meaning games that even want to try something more simple or innovative that doesn't need to cater to a wide audience still needs to cater to a wide enough audience to capture millions of units sold, which limits innovation to ideas that are proven to sell games.

Essentially, addiciton to a constantly improved benchmark of graphics adds more expense to the industry every year, reinforcing mediocrity and a lack of innovation in packaging, approach, content and mechanics. And that bums me out.

I would argue that it was the industry that shaped the minds of the gamers to think a certain way. Who pushed HD graphics first, the gamers or the industry?

 

Only for those that aren't independent developers. It's almost always been an issue when developers have had to rely on funding from an outside source that has shareholders. This is why kickstarter began.

 

I'm not a game developer, so I can't say for certain where the money goes to. That said, many developers have started to use in-house dev tools like Frostbite, which can be updated and molded to fit any game EA has in development. It is logical to assume that this would be more cost effective than maintaining more than one engine or licensing a third-party engine like Unreal.



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What occasion did he wear that shirt?

Holy crap, Dr. Taylor's kinda hot.


The occassion was his life long dream and task of landing a probe onto a moving comet last week for the first time in human history. He was wearing a tacky Hawaiian-esque shirt one of his female friends had made to help support her. It bad many pictures of "pin-up-type" girls on it and was derised as being sexist and everything wrong with the male-dominated STEM field.

An honest travesty against the man and proof that people have zero concept of what the heck they are talking about before assigning labels and epitaphs on people, the hypocrisy of which is maddeningly apparent to everyone except the ones doing it.
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I would argue that it was the industry that shaped the minds of the gamers to think a certain way. Who pushed HD graphics first, the gamers or the industry?

Only for those that aren't independent developers. It's almost always been an issue when developers have had to rely on funding from an outside source that has shareholders. This is why kickstarter began.

I'm not a game developer, so I can't say for certain where the money goes to. That said, many developers have started to use in-house dev tools like Frostbite, which can be updated and molded to fit any game EA has in development. It is logical to assume that this would be more cost effective than maintaining more than one engine or licensing a third-party engine like Unreal.

Game engine use has nothing to do (inherently) with graphics. It is the garage of the game design industry - it can be designed to be more accomodating, able to fit more tools and give space for more cars. But ultimately it is merely the stage for where design decisions are made. Unity can be used to make games as simple as a text based adventure or as resource heavy as a AAA FPS. The same could be said of Frostbite. It is nice that engine consolidation is happening, but it is not the biggest source of game development dollars. Having a team of hundreds of artists, animators and cinematic developers, however, IS.

Kickstarter is a good solution, I agree. However, it means that the biggest budget a more sensible game will have is around a million dollars. There is little middle ground between a $200 million dollar AAA blockbuster and a shoestring budget indie title of less than a million. The reason why is that development studios can't effectively make a game without all the bells and whistles of a top-shelf AAA game, complete with 1080p rendering, high res textures, full cast voice acting and movie-like cinematics.

I blame the gamers, not the developers. People are pulled in more easily to the flash and dazzle, to be sure. But it still doesn't make the reality any less bum-out-ish to me.
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The occassion was his life long dream and task of landing a probe onto a moving comet last week for the first time in human history. He was wearing a tacky Hawaiian-esque shirt one of his female friends had made to help support her. It bad many pictures of "pin-up-type" girls on it and was derised as being sexist and everything wrong with the male-dominated STEM field.

An honest travesty against the man and proof that people have zero concept of what the heck they are talking about before assigning labels and epitaphs on people, the hypocrisy of which is maddeningly apparent to everyone except the ones doing it.

 

Yeah, I see the stupidity: His shirt overshadowed his amazing scientific work, in the meantime. I think frankly that this debacle will be forgotten as the man's going to be remembered for putting a probe on a moving comet than his shirt. But, my question is it in the right judgment to wear a tacky shirt like that if you're going to be under the limelight, especially in the professional nature of the STEM fields? I personally don't care for the shirt.



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I blame the gamers, not the developers. People are pulled in more easily to the flash and dazzle, to be sure. But it still doesn't make the reality any less bum-out-ish to me.

How can you blame gamers for something they had no control over? The industry pushed HD graphics hard in the last generation, not gamers. They're still doing it too. They often try to downplay it when they can't deliver on the expectations they themselves set. They say graphics don't matter and try to pretend like they weren't the ones pushing for higher resolutions, higher frame rates, better textures, more realistic lighting and shadows, etc.



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Yeah, I see the stupidity: His shirt overshadowed his amazing scientific work, in the meantime. I think frankly that this debacle will be forgotten as the man's going to be remembered for putting a probe on a moving comet than his shirt. But, my question is it in the right judgment to wear a tacky shirt like that if you're going to be under the limelight, especially in the professional nature of the STEM fields? I personally don't care for the shirt.


Well, again, he wore the shirt specifically BECAUSE he was in the limelight. A female friend of his made the shirt (and sells others) and he was hoping to promote her because he knew a lot of eyes would be on him.

Was it the smartest, professional choice to make? No, I don't think so. But was it a sexist, mysoginsitic act which set back women in science for decades and all the other nonsense that brought the man to tears on national televsion? No. It certainly isn't any of that.