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I need advice from DA fans if I should "blindly" buy DA:I


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Hello everyone,

 

First I would like to point out, that I am a huge Mass Effect fan.

I played all 3 parts of the series to the bottom, I basicly memorized the entire plot,events,squad banter,lore ect. to the border of perfection.

 

Now as much as I can't wait for the next Mass Effect game I couldn't help but notice the hype (for the good and the bad aspects of it) which does revolve around DA:I.

 

Since DA:I is based on the same engine as the next Mass Effect game (Frostbite 3) I would like to try it out and see how Bioware game runs on this engine aswell as play the game which seems to be great so far.

 

And here is the thing - while I'm a huge Mass Effect junkie - I don't know almost anything about Dragon Age series lore, I only played the first DA game for like 2 hours and that was ages ago.

I don't know, if I should know all the events and plot from previous Dragon Age games or if DA:I is made also for people who are new to the series (much like Mass Effect 3 was meant for hardcore fans and newcomers to the series).

 

So here is this - should I buy the game now and wait for the release? I am only few inches away from pulling the trigger on this game, but I would like you feedback guys and gals.

 

Thx upfront for the advice!



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Most of the reviews I have seen say that the game will be rather hard for a newbie, because of the lore and politics.  For a comparison - it'd be like ME3 without the Reaper backstory from ME1 and ME2.  You might be able to play it, but a lot of context and depth would be lost. 

 

So, either play DA:O and DA2 (which are worth it) or do some wiki reading.


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Dragon Age: Origins is free at the moment on PC and cheap on consoles. I'd recommend playing it and seeing if you like the setting. If so, then Inquisition is seen as a return to form for the series by most accounts, so buy away if the itch seems too strong.

However you will always get the best feedback possible after a game is out in the public domain.

Also, which not witch.  :P


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If you are fine with reading codex entries to get a feel for the various factions/lore, I think you'll be fine. It sounds like da:I will not be handholdy with the exposition, but the information will be there.


It should also just be fun as an exploration game, even if you don't get as much out of the main story, as reviewers seem to indicate that aspect is the biggest draw outside of the characters.
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Most of the reviews I have seen say that the game will be rather hard for a newbie.  Just because of the lore and politics.  For a comparison - from the sounds of it, it'd be like ME3 without the Reaper backstory from ME1 and ME2.  You might be able to play it, but a lot of context and depth would be lost. 

 

So, either play DA:O and DA2 (which are worth it) or do some wiki reading.

Hm, I suspected as much.

I guess I will have to read the plot on the wiki.



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Dragon Age: Origins is free at the moment on PC. If you're a PC gamer I'd recommend downloading it and seeing if you like the setting. If so, then Inquisition is seen as a return to form for the series by nearly all accounts.

 

 

Also, which not witch.  :P

Thx for the input and... thx for the input ;)

(grammar corrected and approved by a grammar nazi) :D


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I'd recommend just getting Inquisition. If you want to be a little less confused read up on lore. But even so you should be able to enjoy the game without that.



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If you are fine with reading codex entries to get a feel for the various factions/lore, I think you'll be fine. It sounds like da:I will not be handholdy with the exposition, but the information will be there.


It should also just be fun as an exploration game, even if you don't get as much out of the main story, as reviewers seem to indicate that aspect is the biggest draw outside of the characters.

Yeah I noticed that, "independent reviewers" point it out, that exploration is the primary thing in DA:I, I like that.



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There are tons of gameplay videos out there and there are already a lot of reviews to consider. If you are worried about understanding DA lore, there are a number of Dummies Guides on Youtube that give an overview of what has happened in the previous games and books.



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Thx for the input and... thx for the input ;)

(grammar corrected and approved by a grammar nazi) :D

I do apologise for the grammar correction...it's just one of those few mistakes that I can't let slide.

The others when people use then when they mean than. It annoys me far more than it should. :D



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To me it honestly sounded like the reviewers were getting tripped up thinking they needed to remember everything as soon as it was referenced. There are absolutely going to be places where you can get info on the events of the past games. We saw in one gameplay demo, for example, that you could ask a character straight up what caused the Mage-Templar war and she'd give you a quick recap of it from her perspective. Maybe that wasn't an option right up front, but if you're the type of person who is comfortable not immediately understanding the context for things and then getting it filled in later via codexes/investigative dialogue options, you'll probably be fine.

Wiki wouldn't hurt, of course, but I'm the type who would find that unproductive and wouldn't remember it really. Up to you!

I think since you're just curious about the engine and Bioware's new direction of exploration...I would just play the new game. If you get attached to the world, you can always go back to the older games. :)

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The biggest difference between the 2 game series in the protagonist.

In ME you're following 1 character, Cmdr Shepard, through all 3 games.

In the DA series, it's a new hero each game. So, you're not stepping into the middle of the character's story, as you would be stepping into ME3.

 

Lore is deeper and more intricate in the DA series, so maybe a bit tougher to get caught up on. But you're not going to be missing any of your Inquisitor's back-story.



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I would advise watching some youtube videos playing Dragon Age Origins and Dragon age 2. (Or at least buy DA:O, I highly recommend it.) 

 

As for buying Inquisition, I have pre-ordered this game for the first time in my life. It's always a leap of faith with things like this. 



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You'll be fine, DA backstory isn't really super complicated on the broad lines, it's more in the details. And the Keep gives you a decent primer, which can be turned into an awesome (and pretty damned funny) primer if you use PC Gamer's guide to the Keep.



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Kind of depends how much time you have available. I would say you will benefit from having played the earlier two games, for context if nothing else, but it is in no way mandatory.

If you are a fan of Mass Effects characters and lore and you are looking for more of that then the earlier Dragon Age games are dripping in all that good stuff; great characters and really deep world building.

From what I've seen though DAI does a decent job of outlining the salient points of any situation enough, so that a new player can get on board. If you are a multiple playthrough kinda player - and DAI is one of those games that locks off content based on choices so replays are desireable - maybe try it and if you like it go back and try the first 2 before your second go.

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I do apologise for the grammar correction; it is just one of those few mistakes that I can not let slide.

One of the others being when people use then when they mean to utilize than. It annoys me far more than it should. :D

 

Tsk tsk. Usage errors are just as important for the Grammar Nazi.

 

:P



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You might be confused by some of the organisations and ideologies, but don't worry - you're not supposed to understand everything immediately. I still don't understand the Qunari, the Seekers or the factions that exist within the mages (libertarians, aequitarians, etc.) even though I've played DA:O and DA2 multiple times, as well as having read the books and comics.

 

You might start the game thinking "I've missed something, that's why I don't know what XYZ is", whereas I'll be thinking "OK, I don't understand this. Good, that means I'm not supposed to". Dragon Age always drops you in at the deep end lore-wise, it doesn't matter where you start - whether DA:O, DA2, the books or Inquisition -  it'll always be a bit confusing. That's on purpose, nothing is ever clear cut in the series. I'm not even sure I fully understand the motives behind the Grey Wardens, despite having played as one of them in DA:O.

 

Added to that, you play as a completely new character in each DA game. Your Inquisitor doesn't have a very good understanding of the events of DA:O or DA2, so you don't need to either. For example:  Varric is a companion in Inquisition, but he was also a companion in DA2. However, the Inquisitor never met Varric in DA2. So the Inquisitor's first introduction to Varric will also be your first introduction to Varric, so it should make sense to you.


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I'd advice you to check the Wiki and go play around in the Keep (Origin account required). That should give you enough background information on the world to get into DA:I right away. I think that using them together might be a good idea: go to the Keep, watch Varric's narration of the default world state and then go to the Wiki to find out more about the stuff that interests you or doesn't make sence to you. Then play around with the Tapestry to your heart's content. Be warned, though: the Keep can be a massive time sink.

 

I would also suggest buying the previous games and trying them out if you are at all interested in fantasy RPGs.



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I say go for it. I'm an even bigger Mass Effect fan than I am a Dragon Age fan (so far) and I jumped into that series with the third game. I was confused most of the time, but it didn't keep me from enjoying the experience so much that I went back and played the others. Plus DA is more jump in friendly since each game isn't a direct extension of the last, there's just recurring themes and such.



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I'd say if you're interested in another world and lore to explore, it'll likely be a great play for you. If nothing else, go on the Keep and watch Varric's narrations of the first two games and make decisions; will help to put some context in there for you. As previously mentioned, the wiki will help, too.

 

The only concern I'd have though, is what kind of games and combat do you usually play? Do you play a variety and it's not really a big deal? Shooters? Tactics? I only ask because combat in the DA series has a very different flow than Mass Effect's, regardless of the changes between titles. Obviously it's possible to enjoy both action-based and tactics-based combat (and DA seems to be moving into a hybrid direction), but if you're not accustomed to full party tactic layouts, I'd suggest watching more gameplay demos and deciding if it looks like something you'd enjoy playing. If you are familiar and a fan of it, then disregard - I'd say definitely go for it. :)



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DA2 plays similar to M.E , and is more action like combat. I'd recommend at least playing DA2. However, if you do decide to go and buy DAI, than hold off on getting it for PS4.


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Why the rush for something you haven't played before? If you order after it's been released you can play within minutes/hours (depending on your download speed).

 

Go watch reviews on YouTube to see if you think you'll like it. If you do, buy it. If not, don't. Taste is so very personal.



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I say go for it.

Keep and Wiki will provide neccesary holes in your lore comprehension.

Just before the play read what nations, races and factions are there and what relationships they have. This is important thing.



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Buy it now so you get the preorder bonuses and everything.



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Buy it. I am also a big mass effect fan and I got to drahon age about a year ago throught mass effect. You don't need to play origins or 2 because if xou go to the keep you will learn everything about the story there. It is like mass effect genesis.