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[stysiaq]

So, after watching the stream I got the feeling that DAMP is:

 

- harder

- more team-based

- like seriously, harder

 

than ME3MP. Now, with BSN just being swarmed by "these f*****g pugs not pulling their weight" threads back in the day I predict that it will escalate exponentially with DAMP.

 

In ME3MP when there was a level 1 character joining my Gold run, I had no problem with it because ME3 is a simple point 'n shoot with some additional flavors, so I can be sure that if I brought my best gun I could pretty much drag all the team through all the waves.

 

Now DAMP on the other hand has:

 

- enemies dangerous to certain classes

- enemies with immunities

- reliability on communication

- chokepoint- oriented gameplay

- 2 potions per match requiring heavy usage of armor-like skills

 

and so on. I fear that the game can be borderline unplayable with random players who will rush to the middle of the danger, never heal or put barriers etc, spectate all the way, oh, and enter high difficulty matches on level 1. We've all seen this. But this time it seems (at least for me) impossible to solo a match.

 

I eagerly await the first infographics with match completion rates.
second part of the title is just a loose thought.

[stysiaq]

Oh, and I just bought my cd-key for DA:I, so I guess I'm looking forward to some games.

[Beerfish]

Tough to tell just yet.  It certainly seems like they have tried to make it more team oriented for sure.  I'm sure there will be a decent portion of good pugs and poor ones.  I also have learned to never underestimate the gaming community in regards to how good they can play and what strategies they can come up with.  I think BioWare will be busy plugging holes the 1st while.  (As far as players finding exploits.)

 

It will be fun to go back to square one and actually have some fear/trepidation early one as a person learns how to play the various classes.

[Orochi]

well they are just showing only 1 of enemy factions all 3 will require different strategy's red Templar obviously Magus hunters and will be Harder too kill with a offensive magus Demons ungh they are going too be a Pita in general

[RedJohn]

And let's not forget that they will eventually kick you off the lobby when they see your N.. your inquisition rank.

[Orochi]

Doubtful they would be arrogent too kick

[Cirvante]

well they are just showing only 1 of enemy factions all 3 will require different strategy's red Templar obviously Magus hunters and will be Harder too kill with a offensive magus Demons ungh they are going too be a Pita in general

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=gKxz5hBp5q8

https://www.youtube....h?v=slfLe7Ku6d4

https://www.youtube....h?v=MdlX8OXNeSI

 

You're welcome.

 

Solution to the pug problem: play with friends until you git gud. Wasn't it the same in the beginning of ME3MP?

[stysiaq]

https://www.youtube....h?v=gKxz5hBp5q8

https://www.youtube....h?v=slfLe7Ku6d4

https://www.youtube....h?v=MdlX8OXNeSI

 

You're welcome.

 

Solution to the pug problem: play with friends until you git gud. Wasn't it the same in the beginning of ME3MP?

 

 

That's my secret captain, I have no friends.

But basically you're right.

 

I was just making a point that if ME3MP could have threads raging about pugs after geth prime sync-killed you, then we are for a wild ride with DAMP. The new accounts are already here. In a week all of this will explode.

[Cirvante]

That's my secret captain, I have no friends.

But basically you're right.

 

I was just making a point that if ME3MP could have threads raging about pugs after geth prime sync-killed you, then we are for a wild ride with DAMP. The new accounts are already here. In a week all of this will explode.

 

Sit back and enjoy the fireworks while drinking the tears that will inevitably follow once the first stuff gets nerfed.

[Heldarion]

https://www.youtube....h?v=gKxz5hBp5q8

https://www.youtube....h?v=slfLe7Ku6d4

https://www.youtube....h?v=MdlX8OXNeSI

 

You're welcome.

 

Solution to the pug problem: play with friends until you git gud. Wasn't it the same in the beginning of ME3MP?

 

I pugged until I gitted gud. Then I pugged on.

[GrommitSmit]

Sit back and enjoy the fireworks while drinking the tears that will inevitably follow once the first stuff gets nerfed.

Nerf tears really are the best, they always have a nostalgic aftertaste. They pair well with a good strong cheese.

I am sure after a few days time we will start to see some effective strategies for playing each class and general party best practices pop up here on the ol' BSN. Until then, I will play with PUGS during the week and my friends on the weekends... and hope to get a wave 5 completion for Christmas.

Please Santa! I haven't been as bad as last year. Just once let me see the Operation Successful screen before New Years. Also, thank you in advanced for the Arcane Warrior unlock after only an hour of playing. You are good people, despite what Mrs. Clause says in public.

[Orochi]

https://www.youtube....h?v=gKxz5hBp5q8

https://www.youtube....h?v=slfLe7Ku6d4

https://www.youtube....h?v=MdlX8OXNeSI

 

You're welcome.

 

Solution to the pug problem: play with friends until you git gud. Wasn't it the same in the beginning of ME3MP?

a thank you

[Pommelhorse]

That's my secret captain, I have no friends.

 

 

Lol, I like the reference.

 

Come play with us casuals if you're worried about PUGs.

[Orochi]

Lol, I like the reference.

 

Come play with us casuals if you're worried about PUGs.

what the Pony said

[Ravenmyste]

how can anyone forget people kicking people just starting out that dont want to MP till they finish sp, oh those argumets was fun to hear people trying to kick people that didnt have a weapon to there name except the avenger

[Firebug6]

It will be fun to see how it all plays out. Given how much fun I had with ME3 multi, I am almost more excited for this feature than the one player experience!

[Solid_Altair]

I don't think it will be so bad. In those videos, they had only a moderate amount of cooperation and they still didn't do so bad.

[simpatikool]

I am glad it is looking a bit more difficult. I mean, I loved ME3MP, but that does not mean, I just want it reskinned for DAMP. Though similar, it appears to offer different kinds of challenges, including even getting better team work from your party.

[Silvershroud]

Also remember, the people in the video are using low level equipment, on lowish leveled characters.  We don't really know just how much of a difference some better weapons will make.  Meaning that an experienced player or two  at a higher level with good gear may still be able to carry a couple of new players through without too much difficulty.

[Eelectrica]

I'll join a game and leave after it's done. Regardless of result or well or poorly I play.
but elitist DB's gonna be elitist DB's.

and the game isn't even out yet and people are already demanding nerfs. That's.... wow. Shouldn't be surprised really.

[GrommitSmit]

I'll join a game and leave after it's done. Regardless of result or well or poorly I play.
but elitist DB's gonna be elitist DB's.

and the game isn't even out yet and people are already demanding nerfs. That's.... wow. Shouldn't be surprised really.

We ARE all mad here!

Seriously though, most of those nerf threads are all in jest. At least, I took them to be sarcastic. They are sarcastic, right BSN? ...if not, Maria's gonna flip about those Reaver nerf requests...

[GrommitSmit]

Whoa... Lag-caused double post, what does it mean?

[Cirvante]

We ARE all mad here!

Seriously though, most of those nerf threads are all in jest. At least, I took them to be sarcastic. They are sarcastic, right BSN? ...if not, Maria's gonna flip about those Reaver nerf requests...

 

No, we're dead serious here. The Reaver needs a nerf, it's currently the most op class even though I have never seen it in action.

[Catastrophy]

No, we're dead serious here. The Reaver needs a nerf, it's currently the most op class even though I have never seen it in action.

Shut up and hit the PuG button already - I want to play.

[Stinja]

I predict any missile glitches will resolve around infinite Jar of Bees.  Some sort of desync/button combo whereby it is deployed but not consumed.

 

As for PUG rage...  I wonder how much will be due to DAMP seeming to have a lower skill requirement, but harder game design.

- auto targetting = no headshot vs body shot skill, ditto righthand advantage

- dodging / cover = seems very limited, so avoiding ranged damage seems tricky

- trolling = PUG not unlocking class doors, leeching, initialing kicks, pulling mobs

- team play = not reviving, entering with no potions, not casting team spells etc

- comms annoyances = singing / playing obnoxious music, continuous chatter, conversations with people outside the game etc

 

just the usual stuff really...