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[Shahadem]

So Corypheus is actually Red Skull. Is there a secret quest that allows you to recruit Captain America?

[N7recruit]

Ah, another Bioware game, another boring cookie cutter antagonist who is thousands of years old, with mind controlling powers & an army of psychopaths willing to drink the koolaid and go full retard then destroy the world.

 

Man they REALLY suck at Writing Villains don't they? You would think that with their skill at writing companions they could come up with a more compelling, less cliché villain then Corypheus. Apparently not...   

[AcidRelic]

 Corypheus isn't the Elder One, at least I really don't think so. I think  Corypheus works for the true Elder One Dumat.

[Morroian]

Cory is the Elder One...

 

Spoiler

Cole will mention that the Corytheus is the Elder One.

 

Cory goal is to become the new God of the World because his experience in the Black City where he did not see the Maker in it, also that the Black City was already the Black City, and the absence of his God Dumat has made him believe there is no God for the World.

 

Spoiler

I thought he had been planning this for a  long time and there was the implication that the antagonist had a hand in inflaming the mage/templar war. Neither of those really hold up now.

 

 

I also wonder how it ties in with Felassin's master in Masked Empire?

[Starwingz]

I found whole bioware promotion of how important the Breach will be in game even more anti climatic than whole Elder one = Corypheus

 

Spoiler

You basically close it before you move to Skyhold

[renfrees]

What a surprise. What has magic touched that it doesn't spoil?

[TheDarkShape]

Is there a problem with Corypheus being the villain for people other than the fact they already saw him in Legacy?  I mean, if that DLC didn't exist, would people be disappointed that one of the Tevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City is the villain in Inquisition?

 

Because I think it's a lore goldmine.

[Willowhugger]

Is there a problem with Corypheus being the villain for people other than the fact they already saw him in Legacy?  I mean, if that DLC didn't exist, would people be disappointed that one of the Tevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City is the villain in Inquisition?

 

Because I think it's a lore goldmine.

 

It's a bit anticlimatic, to be honest. I'd have preferred someone new.

[Rolhir]

Is there a problem with Corypheus being the villain for people other than the fact they already saw him in Legacy?  I mean, if that DLC didn't exist, would people be disappointed that one of the Tevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City is the villain in Inquisition?

 

Because I think it's a lore goldmine.

I....feel stupid now lol. Thank you. If Corypheus was just a random powerful darkspawn in Legacy and not a magister and then the villain in Inquisition was an original magister who entered the Black City, I don't think I would have had a problem with it. Now that you point it out, my issue really is that he's a recycled villain that already got pwned by Hawke and Co.

 

I agree, it's definitely a lore goldmine.

[elrofrost]

As I said in another thread; there's got to be more to it. It can't just be some duty old mage wanting to conquer the world.

Is something pulling Corypheus' strings? Why did he (and others) seek the Golden City in the first place? And when they arrived it was corrupted (black). How? Why? Did Dumat lie to him? If so, why?

If it's true that it's just Coryphues wanting to conquer the world, then I hope the rest of the game is amazing. Cause story wise, that would be boring. DAO was sort of like this - the final villain was known. What made DAO great was all the other threads. And I'd be happy if this was the case in DAI.

 

But I was hoping Bioware's writers would pull something a bit more interesting out of the hat.

[Willowhugger]

I....feel stupid now lol. Thank you. If Corypheus was just a random powerful darkspawn in Legacy and not a magister and then the villain in Inquisition was an original magister who entered the Black City, I don't think I would have had a problem with it. Now that you point it out, my issue really is that he's a recycled villain that already got pwned by Hawke and Co.

 

I agree, it's definitely a lore goldmine.

 

I feel bad because it means Hawke exists to fail.

[Rolhir]

It's a bit anticlimatic, to be honest. I'd have preferred someone new.

That's the point TheDarkShape was making. People are objecting to a reused villain, not to the fact that the villain is an original Tevinter Magister hell-bent on world domination.

[elrofrost]

That's the point TheDarkShape was making. People are objecting to a reused villain, not to the fact that the villain is an original Tevinter Magister hell-bent on world domination.

 

I suppose that's my problem. Ol'well. I just HOPE TO GOD the final battle isn't like the one in Legacy. Cause that was just ridiculous. I don't like fights were there's only one way to win.

[TheDarkShape]

I....feel stupid now lol. Thank you.

 

Haha, there's no reason to feel stupid.  I can understand annoyance at repetition when it comes to a 'reuse' of a villain (and I actually only played Legacy for the first time this year when there were rumblings Corypheus might be the baddie in Dragon Age III, so I'm not as used to him as a lot of you guys are).  But you can also look at it from the perspective of, when they made Legacy, they knew he was going to be the villain in the next game.  So that's sort of just a bonus introduction for the hardcore players.  It's not as though they were out of ideas and decided to go back to that well.

 

I feel bad because it means Hawke exists to fail.

 

 

Does it, though?  Legacy is pretty explicit about the fact that Corypheus' safe guards are breaking down and he'll inevitably escape if nothing is done.

[Starwingz]

http://www.twitch.tv...com/b/587990561

 

30:04

 

Tells how long he planned Breach and other stuff like his plans. Very spoilery.

[Morroian]

That's the point TheDarkShape was making. People are objecting to a reused villain, not to the fact that the villain is an original Tevinter Magister hell-bent on world domination.

 

There's also the fact that as I was saying  above there has been the implication that the elder one has been planning this for a long time and has been working behind the scenes inflaming tensions in thedas as part of his/her plan. Despite what is said in game it doesn't really hold up with what happened in Legacy and is less interesting on a global political scale.

[NotBeouwulf]

What if he was planning this whole thing from the start?

 

Remember he is a Dreamer so can walk through the fade fairly physically.  So he allowed himself to be "captured" by the Wardens and placed in a "prison" by them.  A prison that protected him while he waited and manipulated events from within the fade.  He used that manipulation to set the conditions for the events of the game. 

 

When Hawke came upon him he let Hawke win, this was to ensure that no one knew of his survival and escape till he was ready to reveal himself.

[Jaison1986]

My god, this is more anticlimatic then I originally thought. It would be far more fitting if Cory was working with the bad guy, not being the bad guy himself.

 

Spoiler

And seriously? We actually close the breach before moving to Skyhold? Are there at least new breaches later? Otherwise this whole premise will get seriously lackluster.

[CrybabyXD]

I actually like this. And i think who Varric "friend" at end must be Hawke. I also wonder what effect siding with Larius or Janeka will have on this.

[Morroian]

My god, this is more anticlimatic then I originally thought. It would be far more fitting if Cory was working with the bad guy, not being the bad guy himself.

 

Yep I agree with this. To me it smells like a retcon.

[Muspade]

I don't understand why people are so underwhelmed by Corypheus, simply because you've seen and bested him before...right after he woke up from his 1.000 year nap.

Meh. I'll be glad to see him again. It seemed like wasted potential to have him appear and simply die In one DLC.

[renfrees]

What if he was planning this whole thing from the start?

 

Remember he is a Dreamer so can walk through the fade fairly physically.  So he allowed himself to be "captured" by the Wardens and placed in a "prison" by them.  A prison that protected him while he waited and manipulated events from within the fade.  He used that manipulation to set the conditions for the events of the game. 

 

When Hawke came upon him he let Hawke win, this was to ensure that no one knew of his survival and escape till he was ready to reveal himself.

That's a pretty long planning then, because his seals were created before the Chantry banned blood magic, which was at the times of Second Blight.

[NotBeouwulf]

That's a pretty long planning then, because his seals were created before the Chantry banned blood magic, which was at the times of Second Blight.

Yep.

 

He planned it right after the First Blight, just waiting for the time is right.  Sleeping, aka hanging out in the fade planning and manipulating, until everything was ready for him to rise again.

 

At leas that is my thought.

[TheDarkShape]

I don't understand why people are so underwhelmed by Corypheus, simply because you've seen and beasted him before...right after he woke up from his 1.000 year nap.

 

And "bested" is in question.  He's clear right before the fight starts that he'll escape through them.  It's entirely possible Corypheus feigned defeat simply so he could possess one of the Wardens without raising any eyebrows.

[Rolhir]

What if he was planning this whole thing from the start?

 

Remember he is a Dreamer so can walk through the fade fairly physically.  So he allowed himself to be "captured" by the Wardens and placed in a "prison" by them.  A prison that protected him while he waited and manipulated events from within the fade.  He used that manipulation to set the conditions for the events of the game. 

 

When Hawke came upon him he let Hawke win, this was to ensure that no one knew of his survival and escape till he was ready to reveal himself.

If this was all a master plan and he was able to interact with the fade, why is he so out of it when he wakes up? And why would he let Hawke win if he could just kill Hawke so as to make sure there are no witnesses.