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[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Personaly i like short shorts.

[Battlebloodmage]

[lastpawn]

Yea i know its cool to be able to go anywhere and do whatever the ____ you want but thats the only appeal to me.

 

That's pretty much the only appeal of Skyrim, period. The freedom it gives you to go (almost) anywhere and do (just about) anything. It's not like it was getting glowing reviews for the combat system or companions...

 

I personally haven't enjoyed TES since Morrowind. That's because I don't care too much about the aforementioned freedom. I want to have an interest in doing those things, rather than just having the freedom to do them, and I don't: the plot doesn't interest me, the combat doesn't interest me, and the characters don't interest me for the most part, either. Otherwise, I might enjoy those games as much as all the "game of the year" awards showered upon them indicate I should.

[bEVEsthda]

Call of Duty vs MS Flight Simulator?

Anyone?  

 

 

Personally, I've always found a cup of Tea lacking in comparison to a novel. The plot is extremely thin, for instance, and I don't remember a single character.  So I simply don't get these Tea lovers, who have to have their Tea several times a day.  

[xkg]

Last 2 DA games and last 2 TES games, it is hard to compare these games objectively since they are all vastly different.
 
So we can only post our subjective opinions and mine would be :
 

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10
20  Skyrim (simple snorefest 40 hours into and it was over for me, couldn't force myself to finish it)
30
40
50  Dragon Age 2 (mediocre/average game, few interesting things, single 80~90h playthrough) 
60
70
80  TES 4 Oblivion (very good game, only single playthrough but very long one 300~400 hours)
90  Dragon Age Origins (great great game, many playthroughs, not sure how many hours)
100

[badboy64]

Thank god I will be giving up Skyrim to play DA:Inquisition. I will never even touch skyrim ever again. DA:Inquisition will keep me well occupied for quite some time.

[Dobyk]

To be honest, I think both games are good, they focus on different things of course, and there's nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, they are both successful franchises and deliver very unique experiences. However, if we have to compare, I think both games can learn a lot from each other. DA focuses on story, choice and character development (not ot mention the amazing voice acting) while Skyrim has a very extensive, sometimes contradictory, but nevertheless intriguing, highly metaphysical and complex lore and an amazing world and environment.

 

I think DA's lore and world are a bit insipid, not particularly "wow, that's cool" or metaphysical, the world in itself is not what engages the player; it is strictly background (my opinion). ES, on the other hand, has such a huge and varied world that it does a very, very bad job at executing it properly, or making the player feel like he impacts the world the way DA does. DA is about interaction, although it could certainly brush up on its creativity and originality, while Skyrim/ES is perhaps a bit too big for its own good and it can learn from DA in terms of character development, the player affecting the game, the game recognizing the player and his decisions (even the minor ones), and better lore presentation.

 

In the end, I personally ended up remembering more from DA, and actually feeling an emotional bond with my chacaters and their companions, but once the games end you feel kind of "awwwww, it's over". With Skyrim you can play indefinitely, but it easily gets boring, and I end up arguing over Elder Scrolls lore with my friends for hours , and I can read Elder Scrolls lore for days, while my desire to play is now gone because I do the same things and the game gets repetitive. If these two "steal" tactics and mechanics from each other, both will become just brilliant (not that they are not already, but you can always do better)

[Raoul]

To be honest, I think both games are good, they focus on different things of course, and there's nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, they are both successful franchises and deliver very unique experiences. However, if we have to compare, I think both games can learn a lot from each other. DA focuses on story, choice and character development (not ot mention the amazing voice acting) while Skyrim has a very extensive, sometimes contradictory, but nevertheless intriguing, highly metaphysical and complex lore and an amazing world and environment.

 

I think DA's lore and world are a bit insipid, not particularly "wow, that's cool" or metaphysical, the world in itself is not what engages the player; it is strictly background (my opinion). ES, on the other hand, has such a huge and varied world that it does a very, very bad job at executing it properly, or making the player feel like he impacts the world the way DA does. DA is about interaction, although it could certainly brush up on its creativity and originality, while Skyrim/ES is perhaps a big too big for its own good and it can learn from DA in terms of character development, the player affecting the game, the game recognizing the player and his decisions (even the minor ones), and better lore presentation.

 

In the end, I personally ended up remembering more from DA, and actually feeling an emotional bond with my chacaters and their companions, but once the games end you feel kind of "awwwww, it's over". With Skyrim you can play indefinitely, but it easily gets boring, and I end up arguing over Elder Scrolls lore with my friends for hours , and I can read Elder Scrolls lore for days, while my desire to play is not gone because I do the same things and the game gets repetitive. If these two "steal" tactics and mechanics from each other, both will become just brilliant (not that they are not already, but you can always do better)

You say that TES has bigger world and lore, but you must understand TES is old franchise, much older than DA, DA is relatively young, we will see in the future.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Not comparable. 

They are both 10/10 games that are perfect for each their own reasons.

[Dobyk]

You say that TES has bigger world and lore, but you must understand TES is old franchise, much older than DA, DA is relatively young, we will see in the future.

 

 

Very, very correct. That's why I'm hopeful that in the next 3 DA games the world will expand tremendously and will become much more interesting in time. DA is indeed a young franchise, so we'll see how well they can develop their lore and their world. But if they reach the same scale and depth of lore like Elder Scrolls, they would be THE best, when you combine that with their amazing character development and interaction

[badboy64]

Not comparable. 

They are both 10/10 games that are perfect for each their own reasons.

Very true but Skyrim would of better off with a talking main character too.   Since they did brag up that they had near 80 VA in the game before it's release. That is there biggest weakness for me anyways. I am through playing a silent character from now on. The only thing that made Skyrim better was the amount of mods being made for it and each day it continues to grow.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Very true but Skyrim would of better off with a talking main character too.   Since they did brag up that they had near 80 VA in the game before it's release. That is there biggest weakness for me anyways. I am through playing a silent character from now on.

I actually prefer a silent protagonist for the sake of imagination. But this kinda depends on the game. FF7 for example - adding VAs in that game, or in Fallout 2 would ruin those games imo. As for a Dragon Age game, it is a must have. 

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Each to there own im neither hear or there whith Voiced or Silent protagonists either way. 

[Guitar-Hero]

Skyrim is about doing what you want when you want, DA is about experiencing a great cast of characters and how they relate to the world around them.

 

Example, if say in Skyrim I turn into a vampire badass thing and slaughter an entire city I will think"wow, that was fun, that guy died in weird way and why is my horse floating?"

 

Whereas if I do it in DA I will feel really bad about it, dump my girlfriend "because she needs to find someone better than a merciless killer" and cry in the shower whilst listening to Michael Jackson sing about how much we humans suck.

[Hair Serious Business]

*huge groan* this thing again 

[Bfler]

Praising Bioware and bashing Bethesda on BSN? Such bravery.

 

Yup. A person, who thinks DA is ****, wouldn't be here. The intention behind the thread is bashing of Skyrim, nothing else.

[Khaeix]

Hm... I enjoyed Skyrim immensely. The lore, the guilds, the fact that I was a badass dragon killer... And of course the mods that made me carry tents and fur armour.

Dragon Age, to me, is different. It focuses on the characters and you don't have a lot of room to deviate in regards to combat and how you go about the quests. 

The Elder Scrolls and Dragon Age are very different. One focuses on open world, exploration, side quests, guilds and storylines whilst the other focuses on the characters and main quest and the choices you make. Is one better than the other? It depends on the person. I prefer Skyrim to Dragon Age: Origins, but I like Dragon Age: Origins more than I liked Morrowind. 

Because they're both RPGs doesn't mean you can only play and enjoy one of the series. In fact, I would encourage people to play both, because they offer different things. The Elder Scrolls is amazing, expansive and just... Fun. There is so much roleplay potential with every character you make. Dragon Age is more linear, yes, but you can still have fun with your character. 
 

Does Bioware make better RPGs than Bethesda? No, they make different types of RPGs, and people will prefer one or the other. Will Dragon Age: Inquisition sell more copies than Skyrim? Who knows - It'll be interesting to find out. 

[mindw0rk]

Skyrim's biggest advantage over any RPG is its modding community. Its amazing and there are hundreds of great mods to make experience much more immersive. I doubt DAI will top modded Skyrim as the best RPG of all time for me, but Im sure I'll enjoy it alot still. Bioware's decision to make it more open world was huge for me. I hope next DA game will be more mod friendly.

 

Here is a small video I made to show how my 500+ mods Skyrim looks like (soundtrack is also from ingame):

 

[Lebanese Dude]

Skyrim is overrated

 

Vanilla is.

 

Fully modded Skyrim is one of the best RPG experiences you can have so no.

[Gothfather]

Skyrim's biggest advantage over any RPG is its modding community. Its amazing and there are hundreds of great mods to make experience much more immersive. I doubt DAI will top modded Skyrim as the best RPG of all time for me, but Im sure I'll enjoy it alot still. Bioware's decision to make it more open world was huge for me. I hope next DA game will be more mod friendly.

 

Here is a small video I made to show how my 500+ mods Skyrim looks like (soundtrack is also from ingame):

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I doubt any EA title will be mod friendly in the near future.

 

But RPG modders are a pretty skilled group and I suspect that within a years time they will have "cracked" the difficulties of modding and mods will be available. The problem I see is that you will likely require packing and unpacking tools to add mods and that means causal mod users are going to be left out in the cold.

[duckley]

They're two different games. One focuses on story, the other on open world.  Doesn't make one better.

It does make them different IMO. The thing is that the two games (series) do get compared and not on a same-different continuum but on a better-worse continuum. Personally I prefer a great story with great characters to open world games.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

The elder Scrolls

Ferelden.

[HaHa365]

Two different approaches for two different series. Both can be good at what they do.