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[DarkSeraphym]

I didn't let him keep the shard thought it was obvious that would be a bad idea.  Still not sure if letting Merrill keep the mirror is okay or not. My  warrior Hawke that romanced her let her keep it my mage Hawke didn't.

 

I'm going to be absolutely stunned if keeping the Eluvian intact doesn't have a similar impact to what happens to Varric. I know that there will be people who disagree with me here, the foreshadowing for that mirror through the Dalish Origin in DA:O and Merrill's storyline are worse than what was hinted with that red lyrium. If you are worried for Merrill's safety, I'd venture a guess that you had might as well just get it over with and change your choice to smashing it.

[Vhaius]

Oh man can't wait for my 'Darkest Timeline' playthrough, with all the choices I perceived as 'wrong', going from Origins to Inquisition.

[KCMeredith]

I'm going to be absolutely stunned if keeping the Eluvian intact doesn't have a similar impact to what happens to Varric. I know that there will be people who disagree with me here, the foreshadowing for that mirror through the Dalish Origin in DA:O and Merrill's storyline are worse than what was hinted with that red lyrium. If you are worried for Merrill's safety, I'd venture a guess that you had might as well just get it over with and change your choice to smashing it.

Or she'll use it to get the elves out of town when Sebastians army rolls through.

[Eterna]

-people complain about consequence and choices

-when there is a consequence for a choice they rush to change their outcome to feel all warm and fuzzy inside

 

Good grief. 

[Yuoaman]

Honestly I doubt the eluvian being intact would be nearly as negative as the lyrium idol. The eluvians are essentially just a portal network. I imagine if it were kept intact it would have "come online" at the same time as the rest of the eluvian network did in The Masked Empire.

[The Closet Geek]

ROFL

 

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Poor Varric, good thing I hardly ever let him keep that shard. That Keep choice is now  going into the "Rocks fall, everyone dies" worst possible world state.

[TheKomandorShepard]

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Now i regret that i destroyed red lyrium in my pt as that pretty much could only backfire im tempted to change my choice in keep and let varric have it just to see that scenario.

[DarkSeraphym]

Honestly I doubt the eluvian being intact would be nearly as negative as the lyrium idol. The eluvians are essentially just a portal network. I imagine if it were kept intact it would have "come online" at the same time as the rest of the eluvian network did in The Masked Empire.

 

I didn't read the Rivalry scene as literally. Smashing the Eluvian, as I saw it anyway, wasn't about smashing the Eluvian. It was about Merrill coming to terms with the fact that her naïveté is quite literally destroying her life and it'll only be a matter of time before it claims her too.  It's not the mirror that is the problem, it's Merrill's obsession with getting it working that is the problem. Look at the price she pays for it: Marethari's life, potentially the life of her clan, and the only livelihood that she has ever known.

 

If you compare the dialogue, the Friendship version blames Marethari and the rest of the clan for not trusting her judgment. The Rivalry version blames herself and her unwavering passion for being the source of her problem. That right there is why I choose to smash the Eluvian every single time. It's not the mirror that is dangerous, at least not as far as I can tell, it's the fact that Merrill doesn't seem to learn anything at all from the dangerous lifestyle that she leads if she doesn't smash it. I love Merrill, she's my favorite character in Dragon Age II, but let's be honest here: she is the poster child for why the Templars favor treating mages the way they do.

[fivefingaslap18]

Oh man can't wait for my 'Darkest Timeline' playthrough, with all the choices I perceived as 'wrong', going from Origins to Inquisition.

 

Evil Hawke and Evil Waaaarden!

[BloodyTalon]

Just checked my world state!

Good news two world states have varric keeping the shard, that means can see what happens bless it be!

[VelvetStraitjacket]

I always wanted a pet demon tbh. So I'll let him keep the shard in my second playthrough.

[Travie]

Yep, I kept it too! This is going to be hilarious!

[Zered]

I expect the demon to have interesting exchanges with Cole.

[Bigdoser]

I'd enjoy seeing this happen to Varric.

Well I can't understand why someone would put someone through that even if they don't like someone but bsn will be bsn.

[Bigdoser]

LMAO at all the people running back to the Keep to change Varric. In what world did you think giving him a piece of the idol that turned Meredith into ... shiiit I don't even know... was a good idea?

 

So much for other ppl rolling with the punches. At least I'll take solace in knowing I made the right choice in regards to Varric so that when the consequence to a wrong choice comes around I'll feel less like feces.

Same considering what happend to Bartrand I have no idea why some people would let him keep it. Since it turned him into a crazy murderer, stuffing lyrium down peoples throats and Anders even says it weakens the veil but people must have those 3 rune slots for varric. XD

 

I mean you can clearly see it effecting varric at the end of the mission. Now I allowed Merril to finish the mirror and I am quite interested to see the outcome good or bad. 

[Fearsome1]

I've accidentally read spoilers about Varric keeping the red lyrium piece or not. It's below if you want to read it.

 

I've seen multiple sources saying the same thing, and I've got to say that it is an ignoble path for a pretty cool character, but sort of terrific that they allowed for something like that.

[Brockololly]

It might not be a choice you remember well, but it still should have consequences since all the other characters we knew who were in (prolonged) close contact with red lyrium went crazy.

My only qualm with this is that it seems to be taking one choice (from a whole game ago) and making something incredibly dark and unavoidable happen, when nothing of consequence happened as a result of that choice in DA2, where I figured something would have happened if it was happening at all.

 

In almost every BioWare game up to this point, these sorts of choices don't have drastic and varied consequences. At most its how it seemed like things were in DA2- maybe get more XP or something for the "good" choice but a stat/loot gain for the "evil" choice. If BioWare is actually going to start beefing up their consequences to your actions, I guess that just means I'll have to roleplay a bit more seriously. Which is fine! It just sort of goes against my completionist urge to see all the content in games if BioWare is going to take consequences seriously now.

 

Not complaining in the least about this, I just would have expected this to happen within DA2 if they were going to go crazy with this choice. And I hope its not just all super grimdark terrible consequences for past choices but maybe some surprisingly "good" consequences to earlier choices too.

[Bigdoser]

To the people who want to keep the "pet" demon and if that part of the spoiler is true

 

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Considering bioware said that there is a demon wins ending/bad ending people are seriously going to take a possessed varric? Yeah there is no way that the pet demon is not going to betray you at the right moment. 

[BloodyTalon]

To the people who want to keep the "pet" demon and if that part of the spoiler is true

 

Spoiler

Considering bioware said that there is a demon wins ending/bad ending people are seriously going to take a possessed varric? Yeah there is no way that the pet demon is not going to betray you at the right moment. 

That ending could be quite a few things really, given it could be like the I refuse patch from me 3 well more join forces and bring about the end of the world type thing in this case....or your inquiestior drives everything into the ground with his choices would be more then one thing for that to happen and demons go with winners in the end, or metholds to enhence their own power. So maybe it jumps to a weak pc's body

[Bigdoser]

That ending could be quite a few things really, given it could be like the I refuse patch from me 3 well more join forces and bring about the end of the world type thing in this case....or your inquiestior drives everything into the ground with his choices would be more then one thing for that to happen and demons go with winners in the end, or metholds to enhence their own power. So maybe it jumps to a weak pc's body

Well going by the group spoiler thread a host of things can go wrong and its not suprising there is a bad/demon wins ending as said in a bioware interview. Here is another example of how another choice not even relating to companions can effect you badly. 

 

Celene Orlasian ball 

 

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depending on your choices you can be ejected from the ball and if you are ejected that pretty much means losing support from all tree options that you could of possibly had

 

[Karlone123]

Well I can't understand why someone would put someone through that even if they don't like someone but bsn will be bsn.

 

It's...FOR SCIENCE!

[wicked cool]

So glad i asked. Im not going back and changing it. There has got to be more of these hidden in game. The anvil choice and the prisoner at the very beginning intrigue me

[Bigdoser]

So glad i asked. Im not going back and changing it. There has got to be more of these hidden in game. The anvil choice and the prisoner at the very beginning intrigue me

Honestly the choice I am must curious about is conner since my mage sold him to the desire demon for more power to stop the blight so I am quite curious to see what happens with that. 

[Mikael']

Anyone has some info on the Architect? If Corypheus is in, I'm expecting he should have an impact as well.

[Dark Helmet]

If Corypheus is in, I'm expecting he should have an impact as well.

 

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