Yeah, cause voting never involves violence and underhanded activity.
Who and what you respect doesn't affect me in the least - I wasn't asking you to agree with me. That you don't care how someone goes about helping you so long as you get help says plenty.
Yeah, cause voting never involves violence and underhanded activity.
Well... voting usually involves rather less than foreign conquest, no?
Who and what you respect doesn't affect me in the least - I wasn't asking you to agree with me. That you don't care how someone goes about helping you so long as you get help says plenty.
Within reason of not hurting other people, of course.
Looking forward to hearing how Danarius dragged Fenris back to Tevinter. In chains. To be mind-wiped 
Looking forward to hearing how Danarius dragged Fenris back to Tevinter. In chains. To be mind-wiped
Then you need to check your mail more often.
What are his motives?Sebastian does nothing about Kirkwall if Anders dies, it seems. His motives clearly aren't about restoring order.
@Xilizhra: Well THAT puts you in a bit of a pickle with Anders and Adrian... or is your Inquisitor totally cool with it?
@Xilizhra: Well THAT puts you in a bit of a pickle with Anders and Adrian... or is your Inquisitor totally cool with it?
Let us not pretend that Anders didn't know he would cause the Annulment of the Kirkwall Circle.
It was, after all, the entire purpose for what he did.
Anders proved a big point after blowing up that chantry. One that even Sebastian couldn't deny. Despite the fact that Merideth was standing there before the man responsible for the chantry's destruction, she STILL brought forth the right of annulment. Anders exposed the insanity behind the Templars. Merideth was simply itching for a reason to slaughter every last Mage in Kirkwall. Rather than dealing with the criminal who stood before her, she left his fate up to Hawke. Why? Cause she didn't really care. She already got what she wanted. And the templars jumped up and sided with her without a second thought (up until she goes full on bat **** crazy that is).
Also, does anyone actually know where Anders is at this point?
Rampaging through the countryside?
Rampaging through the countryside?
No he is helping out rebel mages. Or are you just joking/being sarcastic?
No he is helping out rebel mages.
Is there a video or something in which this is revealed?
What are his motives?
I'd presume vengeance, as that's what he'd been babbling about prior.
@Xilizhra: Well THAT puts you in a bit of a pickle with Anders and Adrian... or is your Inquisitor totally cool with it?
It'll be a fascinating experience to discover.
god I hate how Seb decided to be stuck on stupid. Anders is a POS but going after kirkwall after he and Hawke are long gone is so stupid. I thought Seb was smarter than this.
I don't mind him tracking Anders down to kill him. But it should at least be a competent plan.
Is there a video or something in which this is revealed?
Check the person's channel who is uploading all the character introduction videos in varrics one he states. He fled with the mages from Kirkwall helped them for a time, but he had to move on somehow, a lot of mage's blamed him for the reason they became fugitives.
No he is helping out rebel mages. Or are you just joking/being sarcastic?
With that Breach up in the sky and rifts all over the place? I doubt he'd be able to turn the off switch on Vengeance. He'd administer swift justice even to littering.
With that Breach up in the sky and rifts all over the place? I doubt he'd be able to turn the off switch on Vengeance. He'd administer swift justice even to littering.
Hmm I dunno Cole pretty much explains how it effects spirits, its not THAT bad enough in my opinion to make him glow 24/7.
Check the person's channel who is uploading all the character introduction videos in varrics one he states. He fled with the mages from Kirkwall helped them for a time, but he had to move on somehow, a lot of mage's blamed him for the reason they became fugitives.
Hmm... I wonder if it's different if your Hawke romanced him and stuck with him at the end.
Funny how DA2 and Companions always devolve into Anders and Sebastian.
Hmm I dunno Cole pretty much explains how it effects spirits, its not THAT bad enough in my opinion to make him glow 24/7.
Cole is weird and we don't know much. Justice is more Vengeance than what he was before.
That guy flips out easily. So I'd rather take my chances on my own than having an unstable glowing man around me.
Funny how DA2 and Companions always devolve into Anders and Sebastian.
We must share the same brain because that was the exact same thing I was thinking.
Perhaps Lulupab and Nohvarr just shouldn't allowed in the same thread, eh? It always just ends with them squabbling.
Hmm... I wonder if it's different if your Hawke romanced him and stuck with him at the end.
I'm wondering why and when they would have separated, since
The members of the Chantry aren't as innocent as you seem to think they are. And how could the Mage/Templar war be avoided? It was only a matter of time before that situation would break out. The Chantry was doing literally NOTHING to help ensure peace between the two opposing sides. So how else was this going to be prevented? The mages were being oppressed and wanted/needed change. Anders blowing up the chantry only brought about an inevitable war sooner rather than a little later.
Also, I can't help but laugh at how people exaggerate the death count at the Chantry. It wasn't as high as many seem to think it was. There wasn't any service going on at the time and highly doubt the building was jam packed with people. The only ones we saw bite the dust were Elthina and like four or five Templars. And really, they kind of deserved it.
Do I support Anders in his decision to blow the place up? No. But lets not kid ourselves. Sebastian invading Kirkwall is far worse than the Chantry blowing up. In my DAII file, he flat out told me he was coming back to **** **** up. And guess what? Anders isn't even in Kirkwall. Sebastian is more insane than Anders is.
Really, so where the members of the Chantry out killing people? Summoning daemons? They aren't guilty just because they are part of the Chantry, it's not evil you know.
The Chantry was doing a lot to ensure peace, the Divine in the Capital (the world is bigger then one city) was working to reverse tranquility and was sympathetic to giving mages more freedom. How could it have been prevented? Peaceful talk and compromise, with a sympathetic Divine it would be much better then holding gun to peoples heads. Meridith was annoying a lot of people in power in Kirkwall by her actions, if Anders had killed her or just waited till she went over the line and is removed. People would have been a lot more sympathetic to giving mages more freedom. As it stands Mages are seen as the aggressors, and people are FAR less likely to have any sympathy for there cry of "Oh woe is me for I had to live in a tower and be given all my meals and cloths for my entire life", someone who just saw them blow up a building and now has no food, might just tell them to gtfo.
Also how do we KNOW it was empty? we only see one shot of the central Cathedral, in the medieval times churches often were also where the clergy lived and I think Seb lived in the Chantry will in Kirkwall, so there could be more people then you think.
Is the invasion of 1 city worse than a attack that is intended to start a war? I think that is debatable. (and look it is lol)
I would also point out I don't support the invasion, I feel if he went in peacefully and offered help (food) and leadership he would go better. In fact if Anders is dead doesn't he do something similar? I thought I saw that in a thread.
It just seemed really weird to me that people are all like "I hate Seb, wish I had killed him rrrhate", but Anders is fine.
Nice to hear about companions. There don't seem to be references anywhere for any of Hawke's romances from DA2 though, only generic updates for all. I got the same generic stuff when I spoke with Varric too, after importing a DA2 romance. My poor, broken-hearted and forsaken Hawkes. 
Nobody wants Hawke. Not even their LI want them anymore.
Their life is just plainly made of suck.
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