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#101
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My first Galactic Civilization III that I continued (till turn 334 or 1/3 of the game turns). The problem is despite playing on easy difficulty everyone is demanding and threatening! And the map is too huge! :crying:

 

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Beautiful, rich and vast with so many options... could be better. Stands between 8/10 and 9/10.



#102
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The good things about Endless Legend are Arts (visual and music), Resources, Tech-trees and Region management

 

But the largest map is not very big (kinda like the Standard size of Civilization) and Diplomacy is somehow weak (which will be improved with that DLC it seems) and 300 turns is low.

 

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I only could conquer one state from my southern neighbor. Managing Technology is hard in this game.

 

I actually very much like it.

 

Technology races, or more specifically, World Wonder races were already a thing in Civ. On lower difficulties you could just leasurely research everything in your era and proceed to the next one, but at higher difficulties, you were pretty much dependant on getting the World Wonders before the AI (thanks cheating AI).

 

In Endless Legend, it's somehow similar. If you focus on a very specific technology branch (say science) and stick with it, you can eclipse other factions in science output if they don't do the same thing, but the obvious tradeoff is that your economical, military and infuence/approval is lacking behind, so you have to play it smart, by either mix-matching some other essential technologies, or stick to it no matter what for the unique victory condition. And you can't simply race to one point and then quickly research that which you passed over as each completed research adds to the research cost for not-yet discovered technologies, meaning if you passed the most basic technologies over in a bid to race ahead in another branch, researching it later will cost you more. The unique and mechanically different factions really shine in this context, because they allow incredibly effective specialization if you stick to their strenghts (say Vaulters going for science victory), or their innate perks can help circumvent some limitations (say Vaulters got for a conquest styled game and their unique science perk helps counteract the lack of investing in science technologies to keep your technological growth at a solid pace).

 

 

I do agree though that the game could profit from larger maps and a true infinite turn setting. 600 turns maximum is by no means inadequate if you aim to win the game, but it's too short for those epic game sessions that I enjoyed with CivII, III and IV, some of which  went well past the thousand turns. This is reminiscent of the biggest critique I hold against CiV, the mentality to play to win. Sometimes I don't want to play to win, I just want to mess around and see how it goes. Though Endless legend still does it way better than CiV, at least in this game the AI isn't metagaming, it's just that my fun comes with a deadline or the playground not being large enough.


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Sid Meier's Starships? I can be satisfied with a Galactic Civilization III news,(!), but there is no release date.

 

Starships is too simple. GC III is still too buggy.

 

 

I am considering buying Sid Meier's Civilization V.

Here's my story. I played Civ and Civ II utterly to death. We're talking about >full time and 20 hour sessions here. I also purchased Civ III, but ended up hardly touching it, being totally sated and tired with the game. Since then I haven't ever considered any Civ game at all. But I think I've maybe rested enough now. If I was now to get Civ V, are the expansions a big deal? And what expansions should I get?



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Starships is too simple. GC III is still too buggy.

 

 

I am considering buying Sid Meier's Civilization V.

Here's my story. I played Civ and Civ II utterly to death. We're talking about >full time and 20 hour sessions here. I also purchased Civ III, but ended up hardly touching it, being utterly sated and tired with the game. Since then I haven't ever considered any Civ game at all. But I think I've maybe rested enough now. If I was now to get Civ V, are the expansions a big deal? And what expansions should I get?

 

The basegame is shyte. And no matter the patches, you can only pimp up a turd so much. But I've been told that the Gods and Kings and Brave New World expansions brought the basegame up to speed for the most part, though nothing changed about the horribly cheating and metagaming AI.

 

If you really want to get CiV, get the complete edition (40€ at Steam, base game is 30€ (LOL)).

 

If you just want a good 4X TBS game without bugs (or at least. I haven't come across any bugs at all), check out Endless Legend. You can get the base game for 30€ at Steam (no point in going for the Emperor Edition, the additional goodies are marginal when it comes to gameplay and you can upgrade at any given time if you feel like it).



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Starships is too simple. GC III is still too buggy.

 

 

I am considering buying Sid Meier's Civilization V.

Here's my story. I played Civ and Civ II utterly to death. We're talking about >full time and 20 hour sessions here. I also purchased Civ III, but ended up hardly touching it, being totally sated and tired with the game. Since then I haven't ever considered any Civ game at all. But I think I've maybe rested enough now. If I was now to get Civ V, are the expansions a big deal? And what expansions should I get?

 

The expansions are big deals. The original is pale, empty and not ready.

'Gods and Kings' focuses on religion and the second that is 'Brave New World' adds so much to the game... ideologies with many options, more great works and persons, trade routes and many other things and indeed more civs the better. Byzantine Empire, Poland, The Huns, Assyria etc. are very good and not having them is unintersting!



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The basegame is shyte. And no matter the patches, you can only pimp up a turd so much. But I've been told that the Gods and Kings and Brave New World expansions brought the basegame up to speed for the most part, though nothing changed about the horribly cheating and metagaming AI.

 

If you really want to get CiV, get the complete edition (40€ at Steam, base game is 30€ (LOL)).

 

If you just want a good 4X TBS game without bugs (or at least. I haven't come across any bugs at all), check out Endless Legend. You can get the base game for 30€ at Steam (no point in going for the Emperor Edition, the additional goodies are marginal when it comes to gameplay and you can upgrade at any given time if you feel like it).

 

Would Civ IV be a better idea?



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Would Civ IV be a better idea?

 

If it has to be a Civ, I personally think CIV with expansions is the best to date, however there's a reason why CiV was trying to innovate: CIV was the culmination of all things micromanagement of the Civ series, which can be tedious for players that don't glee at the opportunity to OCD world history (but who in his right mind would buy a 4X TBS game if they didn't like that, huh!?!?).

 

That said, I still recommend Endless Legend over CIV. Make no mistake, I am one of THE hardcore CIV fanatics. I didn't exactly clock my playtime, but it's easily in the several thousands of hours. I absolutely love CIV to bits and you can find some very good mods for it too (my favourites were BASE and a Dune mod whose name I unfortunately forgot), but in terms of gameplay quality, Endless Legend beats all newer Civ games and if you want a classical Civ, I believe you've mentioned you already own CivIII, give that a go, it's similar enough to CIV that if you like it, you can go buy CIV more or less without regrets if you want to.

 

Also, take a looooooong look at Galactic Civilizations II (or jump straight at the current version GalCivIII though I don't exactly recommend that unless you're experienced with 4X TBS games, because GalCiv is pretty complex).