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[HellaciousHutch]

BioWare hasn't really told a great story for quite some time, that, or they end up messing a potentially great story. Not to say their stories are bad, just...not great.

[JeffZero]

Not really. ME2's main plot was weak, but it was still an excellent game.

 

ME2 was the world-expanding bridge in a trilogy, though. If it were a self-contained product instead I'd definitely think far more lowly of it. What it established across the galaxy made the impact of big decisions in 3 powerful for me and it also established an incredible cast of characters on top of that. But it didn't especially need to hit a bunch of cool story beats because 1 and 3 take care of that.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

This, however, is... not... especially... reassuring...

Honestly that seems hyperbole.  I've seen hours of gameplay vids as well and I think the main story's alright.  

 

And maybe it's just the Oxford girl in me but anyone who types in all lowercase tends to lower the strength of their argument in my eyes.  I don't really trust Rakia's opinion.  No offence.  

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

ME2 was the world-expanding bridge in a trilogy, though. If it were a self-contained product instead I'd definitely think far more lowly of it. What it established across the galaxy made the impact of big decisions in 3 powerful for me and it also established an incredible cast of characters on top of that. But it didn't especially need to hit a bunch of cool story beats because 1 and 3 take care of that.

Not really.  I came into ME in ME2 and it was pretty much the characters that cemented it and forced me to go back, buy ME1 and play it through.  I didn't give two wags of a lamb's tail about the Collectors, and my only thought on Cerberus was 'Holy ****, Martin Sheen'.  And 'Miranda's accent is ridiculous.'  

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

This, however, is... not... especially... reassuring...

its a matter of personal opinion, for me

Spoiler

there's just too much religious bullshit

 

...and the singing, that scene is beyond forced

 

 

Honestly that seems hyperbole.  I've seen hours of gameplay vids as well and I think the main story's alright.  

 

And maybe it's just the Oxford girl in me but anyone who types in all lowercase tends to lower the strength of their argument in my eyes.  I don't really trust Rakia's opinion.  No offence.  

you try using caps on a iphone

[Yaran]

We have another thread about IGN not liking the story. Eurogamer didn't seem entirely pleased with it. And while I haven't watched Gamestar's review myself, the translation I was told wasn't glowing on the story front, they said DAO's was better.

 

No, not everyone likes the story.

 

Bioware's strength has been the characters for some time. DAO and ME2 are both examples of highly regarded Bioware games with poor stories that make up for it with a strong cast.

 

Gamestar writes,

-the story is okay, but nothing special

-not beginner friendly

-ending somewhat unsatisfying

and/but definitively not as bad as DA2 or ME3.

 

 

"Wie die gesamte Story ist das Ende ja okay, aber nicht herausragend, nicht besonders."

"Auch wenn Bioware anderes verspricht, ist die Geschichte von Inquisition nicht gerade einsteigerfreundlich."

"So lässt uns das Ende etwas unbefriedigt zurück..."

"So horrend offen wir das Ende von Dragon Age 2 oder so unbefriedigend wie das Finale von Mass Effect 3 ist der Schlussakt von Dragon Age: Inquisition definitiv nicht."

[JeffZero]

its a matter of personal opinion, for me

Spoiler

there's just too much religious bullshit

 

That's fair, it's just that I'll literally never in my life get wrapped up in a game with a story I'd skip rather than experience, so when I read something like that it's about as colossal a red flag as can be raised with regard to the precious few games I even consider playing. >_>

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

its a matter of personal opinion, for me

Spoiler

there's just too much religious bullshit

 

...and the singing, that scene is beyond forced

Because in a game where people think that you're the second coming of Jesus you expected there to be less religion?  

 

...man.  

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Because in a game where people think that you're the second coming of Jesus you expected there to be less religion?  

 

...man.  

i expected my opinion on it to actually matter, not get brushed aside by everyone

 

 

every single person just says "live with it"

[Medhia_Nox]

I think it's also important to remember that these reviewers likely weren't combing conversations for lore - they were probably clicking only for essentials and playing through the game at a much faster pace than is required.

 

I bet many Codexs and "Investigate" options get missed in these review playthroughs.

[Mathias]

Seems like GameInformer is the only one with that opinion :/ I've read all the other reviews and I haven't seen any story complaints. Complaints on bugs, yes, or the tac cam, but GI stands alone with their dislike of the story

 

IGN felt the same way about the story too, and I read it from somewhere else too, I just forget where. I haven't exactly seen many reviewers actually praise the main storyline either. Sounds like it's gonna be pretty mediocre.

[Taleroth]

i expected my opinion on it to actually matter, not get brushed aside by everyone

 

 

every single person just says "live with it"

I'm not sure how you expect them to respond. I'll respect your opinion, but I won't rally behind it.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

i expected my opinion on it to actually matter, not get brushed aside by everyone

 

 

every single person just says "live with it"

Sure, because there's nothing you can do.  It's like Life of Brian.  

[JeffZero]

I wouldn't worry if I were you

the story isn't going to be revolutionary but the classic Bioware saving the world story and if you like those then its going to be awesome

 

I don't know what the reviewers expected and how DA:O (basically everyone praises that game its almost crazy) is better in that regard

Sure we don't know much about the Elder one but how was the voiceless cliche archdemon better?

 

Haha, yeah, I mostly agree with you. The one thing about Origins' main narrative that I really like is that its beginning and ending portions are very nicely fleshed out. That's important to me and kind of rare in gaming these days as players seem to demand more and more "just let me do what I want"-ism and thus drive the industry increasingly "open." I already know Inquisition was written intentionally "to get players out there quickly" which from a marketing perspective is clearly the way to go now but it kind of sucks a little bit for me. I hope its conclusion is at least almost as eventful as what was seen in Origins!

[JeffZero]

I'm not sure how you expect them to respond. I'll respect your opinion, but I won't rally behind it.

 

I think (and I could be mistaken here) that there is a failure of communication here. What Rakia is saying -- I think -- is that he/she dislikes how the characters in Inquisition behave toward his Inquisitor with regard to their role as savior. Not how forumites respond to his/her posts.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

I think (and I could be mistaken here) that there is a failure of communication here. What Rakia is saying -- I think -- is that he/she dislikes how the characters in Inquisition behave toward his Inquisitor with regard to their role as savior. Not how forumites respond to his/her posts.

exactly

 

 

 

I'm not sure how you expect them to respond. I'll respect your opinion, but I won't rally behind it.

well i'd accept a heated argument or two

 

Sure, because there's nothing you can do.  It's like Life of Brian.  

that's the thing, there's nothing i can do because the writers didnt give me the option, that's my problem

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

exactly

 

 

 

well i'd accept a heated argument or two

 

that's the thing, there's nothing i can do because the writers didnt give me the option, that's my problem

Sure they did.  They gave you the option to object.  And then, just like would happen in the real world if you were suddenly proclaimed as the 2nd coming, most people keep on believing whatever they want to believe - in this case, that you are the Herald of Andraste.  

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Sure they did.  They gave you the option to object.  And then, just like would happen in the real world if you were suddenly proclaimed as the 2nd coming, most people keep on believing whatever they want to believe - in this case, that you are the Herald of Andraste.  

okay point taken, the feeling of talking to a wall is intentional..........but i can still hope for dlc with a jackhammer

[Kirikou]

I care not! The character interactions are apparently awesome and that is what matters to me most. My favourite game is Mass Effect 2 and it's main story is not the most enticing, it's the character stuff that makes the game.

[Bizantura]

Bioware has hardly ever let me down in regard interesting characters and interactions. The smaller story which those characters hinges on doesn't bother me.  Even the small story imput in their games is way bigger then in a lot of other games.  Besides I think the best story telling wouldn't compensate if character interactions wouldn't be fully fleshed out.  Console/PC game, it needs interaction, lots of interaction and yes some story to bind it so it can be placed in context.

 

 

Fun and escapism from reality is why I game. If I am in the mood for great story telling I turn to books.

[10K]

As long as it doesn't end in RED, BLUE, or GREEN I'm happy.

[Zoltansbeard]

Why is there so much fuzz about it?

 

the overarching story was NEVER the strongest point of Bioware Games

 

it always was the characters that made the Games great