And would throwing in some T&A have really made them better?
"Better" is subjective.
It would have made them more realistic, certainly. I can count on zero fingers the number of times I've had sex with a girlfriend whilst we were both wearing full underwear, but nothing else.
Seriously, the amount of nude skin you will see in this game must amount for maybe less than 20 sec all romances scenes combined.
Seriously, the amount of nude skin you will see in this game must amount for maybe less than 20 sec all romances scenes combined.
Seriously, the amount of nude skin you will see in this game must amount for maybe less than 20 sec all romances scenes combined.
With 8 love interests, that comes to less than 2.5 seconds of sex scene per love interest. Bioware has never had sex scenes that short.
Also, it isn't just the sex scenes. There is dialogue scenes that happen with it too, so if each LI has even just a couple minutes of pillow talk scenes than combined that is more than a quarter of an hour.
And that is not counting where else there may be nudity in the game.
Okay maybe not 20 sec. But a very few amount compared to the rest of the game (85 hours rumored for the main story line with some sidequests)
There's an un-avoidable broodmother romance that you have to get through.
Can Iron bull take one for the team?
Can Iron bull take one for the team?
can? he seems to think the qun demands it. 
can? he seems to think the qun demands it.
Indeed it dos now that i think about it
It's not so much I won't but more I can't. Even if I tried, I would be unable to finish the post.
Honestly then, that tells me you need some help. Obviously there's something wrong if the idea of nudity makes you THAT uncomfortable.
That being said, the game as a whole shouldn't suffer any losses over a few people who are uncomfortable with the games "adult content".
Honestly then, that tells me you need some help. Obviously there's something wrong if the idea of nudity makes you THAT uncomfortable.
That being said, the game as a whole shouldn't suffer any losses over a few people who are uncomfortable with the games "adult content".
This, because - since you referred to yourself as one - most hetero guys are NOT going to be uncomfortable with seeing ladyparts. In fact, even the ones who "morally object" are probably not all *that* offended.
It seems odd ANYONE would be bothered by this. And yes, if it makes you that uncomfortable and you can't even summon the willpower to type out why?
Forget about the game and address the issue. That ain't an insult, that's coming from someone whose had to take care of personal issues in the past because they were causing disruptions in my life. (And for those saying: it's just a game, not a major disruption: I'd disagree. If an issue is causing you to not enjoy something you'd normally enjoy, because "triggers" then absolutely it's an issue, and is something that needs addressed)
There are eight romances in this game. There is no excuse for not the varying ways to have the sex scenes other than Bioware didn't want to and put it in for all even knowing some fans wouldn't like it. And that is a very disturbing answer for a company that is all about the fans like they paint themselves as.
I'm not expecting only my interests in this game, especially not all at the same time. But I have zero, let me repeat, ZERO of my interests in this game. And how do you know there are some that don't have it? If you are referring to those ones where the scene can be skipped but the romance continue, people still have to skip probably very important parts of the subplot because of that, especially with the pillow talk scenes we know happen due to the Cassandra picture.
I am sincerely happy for those who want it. Honestly, good for them.
On the other hand, I'm not going to wear a fake smile about this. "False tears bring pain to others. False smiles brings pain to oneself."
Lady Insanity, who previewed the game, said that there sex was not required in all of the romances. So you will have options. They might not be the options you want, but that is the way that the game works. I wanted to romance Blackwall with a male Warden. Can't do it. I have to deal with that and romance someone else or roll a female to romance him as a straight person. You might not be able to get a "no nudity" romance with your choice. You will either have to deal with that or romance someone else.
And, aren't you a giant Josephine fan? Aren't you very excited about the romantic nature of her romance? So why would you state that zero of your interests are in the game? You wanted to romance her back before we even knew who she was. And you can, as either male or female. You wanted her to be a softer, sweeter character than Cass and Sera. And she is. You "got" your romance of choice and there's been zero evidence to suggest that there is nudity in her romance unless I missed something. Did I miss a confirmation that there is mandatory nudity in Josephine's quest? Or that any nudity takes place over character development dialogue? Because otherwise, I'm not understanding the levels of negativity that you are displaying.
Honestly then, that tells me you need some help. Obviously there's something wrong if the idea of nudity makes you THAT uncomfortable.
That being said, the game as a whole shouldn't suffer any losses over a few people who are uncomfortable with the games "adult content".
Nudity is really only part of a bigger problem. And I am already getting help for that problem. See a therapist every Saturday. Anmd that is all I will say on the matter.
This, because - since you referred to yourself as one - most hetero guys are NOT going to be uncomfortable with seeing ladyparts. In fact, even the ones who "morally object" are probably not all *that* offended.
It seems odd ANYONE would be bothered by this. And yes, if it makes you that uncomfortable and you can't even summon the willpower to type out why?
Forget about the game and address the issue. That ain't an insult, that's coming from someone whose had to take care of personal issues in the past because they were causing disruptions in my life. (And for those saying: it's just a game, not a major disruption: I'd disagree. If an issue is causing you to not enjoy something you'd normally enjoy, because "triggers" then absolutely it's an issue, and is something that needs addressed)
I just used Cassandra and Josephine because we know Cassandra's has it and since there are 1 other option for straight guys it was the easiest to use as an example.
As for forgetting the game, I don't have that luxury since it is a gift so the person giving it would be offended if I just shelf it.
Lady Insanity, who previewed the game, said that there sex was not required in all of the romances. So you will have options. They might not be the options you want, but that is the way that the game works. I wanted to romance Blackwall with a male Warden. Can't do it. I have to deal with that and romance someone else or roll a female to romance him as a straight person. You might not be able to get a "no nudity" romance with your choice. You will either have to deal with that or romance someone else.
And, aren't you a giant Josephine fan? Aren't you very excited about the romantic nature of her romance? So why would you state that zero of your interests are in the game? You wanted to romance her back before we even knew who she was. And you can, as either male or female. You wanted her to be a softer, sweeter character than Cass and Sera. And she is. You "got" your romance of choice and there's been zero evidence to suggest that there is nudity in her romance unless I missed something. Did I miss a confirmation that there is mandatory nudity in Josephine's quest? Or that any nudity takes place over character development dialogue? Because otherwise, I'm not understanding the levels of negativity that you are displaying.
I am excited for it, yes. But that doesn't mean it is one of the interests you were referring to earlier.
As for the negativity, the fact that every single thing I feared is in the game so far is a pretty good reason to not hope that this one is different. If it is, great. But I'm not going to be optimistic about it until then. That has backfired too many times.
I wonder how those who sneer at people for not caring for nudity in the romances would react if romance also included things like pregnancy, marriage, STDs, etc.
Too uncomfortable?
I wonder how those who sneer at people for not caring for nudity in the romances would react if romance also included things like pregnancy, marriage, STDs, etc.
Too uncomfortable?
Well, I knot the first two are always met with heavy resistance. Even Bioware doesn't like it enough that when asked the bluntly said no.
STDs are also apparently curable in the DA world.
I wonder how those who sneer at people for not caring for nudity in the romances would react if romance also included things like pregnancy, marriage, STDs, etc.
Too uncomfortable?
Nay, The more immersion into the story the better. ;D
Well, I knot the first two are always met with heavy resistance. Even Bioware doesn't like it enough that when asked the bluntly said no.
STDs are also apparently curable in the DA world.
That's not a conversation I enjoyed walking into about Isabela.
Why is nudity an issue when you're going to be spending the majority of your gameplay slaughtering thousands of people?
As for forgetting the game, I don't have that luxury since it is a gift so the person giving it would be offended if I just shelf it.
That's just horrible. What you do with a gift shouldn't be determined by the person giving it. But if you don't want to play it, why not tell the person so?
So far it seems like its only in the romances. I wasn't wondering for me, I'm more wondering for my younger brother who wanted to play it. As long as it's avoidable it should be fine. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't any nudity that is unavoidable in the game beforehand (possibly with the desire demons or other creatures). Thanks for the help, if anyone can confirm for me whether or not there is unavoidable adult content it'd be greatly appreciated.
Eh. Regardless of what may or may not be limited to romances, I do -not- think DA is appropriate for kids at all. Get him Knights of the Old Republic (which is amazing and appropriate).
Well, I knot the first two are always met with heavy resistance. Even Bioware doesn't like it enough that when asked the bluntly said no.
STDs are also apparently curable in the DA world.
True, but they also 'said" that nudity would be handled with shadows and obscured imagery.
That's just horrible. What you do with a gift shouldn't be determined by the person giving it. But if you don't want to play it, why not tell the person so?
Because I practically begged for it and don't like going back on things.
True, but they also 'said" that nudity would be handled with shadows and obscured imagery.
We have photographic evidence that says otherwise.
Because I practically begged for it and don't like going back on things.
We have photographic evidence that says otherwise.
Why did you beg for a game you weren't sure you wanted?
Why did you beg for a game you weren't sure you wanted?
I was sure I wanted it then.
Why is nudity an issue when you're going to be spending the majority of your gameplay slaughtering thousands of people?
BSN first world problems!
I was sure I wanted it then.
I waited till last week to pre-order just in case. A lot can happen to a game during development.
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