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[Azurechaos]

Currently my mind is going bat **** crazy trying to figure out this mess T_T

[Maconbar]

As a guy from the EU I find this absolutely ****
 
Really? Just now before the release. Shame on EA.
 
Only thing I can advise is to buy it from some other source and activate on Origin via VPN.

Shouldn't it be shame on India?

http://segmentnext.c...ia-ea-confirms/

[Ina]

Planning to buy digital. But I don't know anybody in the US.

You can give any address, just google it.

[Razpor]

I have in the past, it's not a scam site or anything but it will of course never be as safe as buying from Origin. 

Edit: Also with Origin, you can return the game. I don't believe you can get a refund on keys obtained from other sources. 

yeag cd keys are always kinda grey area,g2a though is more reliable but it unlocks on 21st

[Azurechaos]

Shouldn't it be shame on India?

http://segmentnext.c...ia-ea-confirms/

does this mean psn and xblive versions are going to be removed in the future even while preloading??

[Zered]

Shouldn't it be shame on India?

http://segmentnext.c...ia-ea-confirms/

 

EA didn't know of this ealier? Just now? Days from the release?

 

Besides i'd expect this is the case uhmmm... in I don't know... Saudi Arabia but India?

[Razpor]

Shouldn't it be shame on India?

http://segmentnext.c...ia-ea-confirms/

EA has still given no official statement siting the specific reason,many have tried to get the answer from EA executives but nothing.It could be anything,but if its due to this,yes its sad.

[Alvin the Elf]

You can give any address, just google it.

 

But.... but.... what if they try to contact me there or something and then cancel my key because I provided a wrong address or something? o.O

[Ina]

Shouldn't it be shame on India?

http://segmentnext.c...ia-ea-confirms/

I'm not an EA fangirl or anything cos I don't like a lot of stuff they do. BUT I highly double EA are happy with losing revenue from a whole country (esp considering this can't be pirated, so people will buy) just cos they wanna ****** of Indian gamers. I mean what the hell would be the point? They will gain nothing, in fact they lose money. What business would work around the premise of pissing off the customer and making no money from doing so. There has to be a better reason and they simply haven't disclosed it yet. The really shitty thing is that they revealed it so close to release with barely an explanation.

[Sid1205]

Had a chat with an exec, its a bit long so please read:

 

AdhaarThanks for contacting EA Customer Experience, my name is Adhaar. How may I assist you today?
AdhaarHey.
youhi
yousorry for the late reply
youhad a query
AdhaarNo problem, please share your query with me.
youim aware dragon age is not being released in India as per yesterday's news
youif i buy a cd key from a global site and use origins to redeem
youwould it be okay?
youbut as per retailers who I have asked, they are saying that it would release on 21st
youeven EA's distributor in India Game4U lists the game on their website for sale
AdhaarWell to be hones i am not sure about it and from my assumption it should work fine.
youso things are very unclear as of now
youso if i purchase the key from say G2A, redeem it via origin and play it
youit will stay in my library post release?
AdhaarYes it should stay in your library.
youand in case the code doesn't get activated via 3rd part
yousome people have bought it from amazon
youand have redeemed it
youand have started preload
you?
AdhaarYes the game will appear in your library and it should be available for pre load too.
youwould we be able to install future dlcs and access the keep features via this option
youcan we do it with a normal internet or do we need a vpn?
AdhaarNo we do not recommend using vpn.
youso can we redeem via normal internet?
AdhaarYou will not be able to purchase in game contents of the game from origin or bioware.
youthe guy who bought it from amazon loaded it without vpn
youand it worked
youspoke to some retailers in my city and they said that it would release on 21st but their distributor is yet to give them further news?
AdhaarYes it should load without vpn.
youso is it officially banned for govt reasons or distribution issues?
you?
youim asking since retailers are telling a different story
youand the playstation and xbox stores of india are officially selling them too
youit has been taken down only from origin
AdhaarYes EA is not releasing the game in india due to some indian laws that are getting breached due to some graphical violence and other game contents.
youyes, but why is it being sold on playstation and xbox store in that case?
you?
AdhaarYes they will be sold as hard copies.
AdhaarDigital version of the game will not be available.
youso then your reply is contradictory?
youthat govt has banned it
AdhaarCodes of hard copies can work in any account for any country.
you in that case why are these copiesallowed?
youhttps://store.xbox.c...3b-20598e71efaf
yousee its available as digital also
AdhaarIt is like for the worldwide site and people from India can buy them, even the hard copies for the game on consoles will not be indian version and you would not be able to make in game purchases from those games.
youbut still it doesn't explain the fact that the govt has banned it
youif hard copies of non ind versions are being sold in india
youi guess it might be some other reason
yousorry for holding u up this long
youbut im really having some worries as I was expecting this game
youwhy is the ban only for PC versions?
youi saw some sites like homeshop18 too sell the console physical copies
AdhaarYes i can understand your concern but there is no official launch for India by EA . But you know people will still buy games for other country versions.
youyes but u said that non indian versions will be sold in India
AdhaarYes but they are not Indian versions and in game purchases could not be made from those games.
youwhich is contradictory to laws
AdhaarThey will not be sold on origin or any official websites but we cannot stop third party retailers from buying different versions of the game.
youso is it going to be sold in India, not by u, but by retailers?
youi understand origin is EA's platform hence it is taken down?
AdhaarYes you are absolutely correct.
youbut you do not have control over PS and XBox
AdhaarAs the copies will not be official Indian versions it may create problems like making in game purchases or connectivity problems on playstation versions.
youBut with the global cd key can i still access the Keep?
youor MP?
AdhaarYes you can.
youIm from India too and have been waiting very long to purchase this game, and all these events have kind of disappointed
youthank you for holding u up too long
youSorry about that but I hope u understand our situation
AdhaarYes i can certainly understand your concern but it is just the decision of higher management of EA due to the fact that India has some laws against games too.
youthat is all from my side
youthank you for taking the time to listen to me
youmay i disconnect the chat?
AdhaarYou are most welcome, it was all my pleasure.
AdhaarThank you for contacting Electronic Arts and chatting with me. I appreciate your time. Have a nice Time.
AdhaarYou may now go ahead and press the 'End Chat' button to end this conversation smoothly.

[Ina]

does this mean psn and xblive versions are going to be removed in the future even while preloading??

It is available on psn and xbox live cos the psn store in India is EU based and xbox live is Singapore based. Origin store is Indian based. They only have to ban it from the Indian store, they will have little control over the EU/Singapore ones.

[Razpor]

EA didn't know of this ealier? Just now? Days from the release?

 

Besides i'd expect this is the case uhmmm... in I don't know... Saudi Arabia but India?

There has been some debate going on about homosexuality here lately,It was decriminalized in 2009 ,but then the judgement was ruled out by top court siting that only lawmakers can amend laws,so yeah its an ongoing process,it might be amended in future.

The current law is the archaic one which was inherited from the british indian law of 1860s,it needs amendment,but amendments in india are a gruelling process,involving lots of politics.

[Sid1205]

I'm not an EA fangirl or anything cos I don't like a lot of stuff they do. BUT I highly double EA are happy with losing revenue from a whole country (esp considering this can't be pirated, so people will buy) just cos they wanna ****** of Indian gamers. I mean what the hell would be the point? They will gain nothing, in fact they lose money. What business would work around the premise of pissing off the customer and making no money from doing so. There has to be a better reason and they simply haven't disclosed it yet. The really shitty thing is that they revealed it so close to release with barely an explanation.

Considering the negative publicity they would be received regarding something perceived negatively in India, I think it would have repercussions around the world.

[Ina]

But.... but.... what if they try to contact me there or something and then cancel my key because I provided a wrong address or something? o.O

Well I can only say I've purchased a couple games in past (though older games, no pre-orders) from Amazon this way and never had issues. They are simply added to your amazon account. Also they're more likely to contact you via email than phone or physical address of there is an issue.

[Hildegard]

for anyone searching for the reddit thread, this may help: http://www.reddit.co...rigin_in_india/

 

dude there might be other ways,thats way too much for one game.

 

of course there is, however, given how uncertain the situation is, I did not want to take any chance.

[Ina]

Considering the negative publicity they would be received regarding something perceived negatively in India, I think it would have repercussions around the world.

It might. I'm just saying EA are unlikely to want to remove a game on some idle fancy. It is a business and if they must pull back content from a country and lose the revenue, there's usually a legal based reason for it. 

[Maconbar]

Considering the negative publicity they would be received regarding something perceived negatively in India, I think it would have repercussions around the world.

If they are canceling it in India because the game doesn't comply with local content laws, why should EA be blamed? EA didn't pass the content laws.

[Sid1205]

If they are canceling it in India because the game doesn't comply with local content laws, why should EA be blamed? EA didn't pass the content laws.

Well, India is against certain themes in the game. This news spreads to other countries(due to globalization) where EA is present and those countries get to know about it. Suddenly this issue becomes a worldwide concern and EA being involved in this, is harmed in the process.

 

Recently Tim Cook of Apple made a declaration, and that didn't go down well with Russia, so why is the game being sold in Russia?  Console versions are still being sold. There is something more to this.

[Sid1205]

It might. I'm just saying EA are unlikely to want to remove a game on some idle fancy. It is a business and if they must pull back content from a country and lose the revenue, there's usually a legal based reason for it. 

The damage has already been done. People already know about it, not just in India but around the world. Wasn't it foreign sites that first reported this news? Heck, how many gamers in India know what Dragon Age is? Most gamers in India mostly know about FIFA, Battefield and COD and that is the truth. RPG players are few in number. For RPG games, AC:Unity is there at the right time to steer gamers away from this incident.

It might be true that the country didn't pass the game but instantly after that EA's name gets attached to it automatically. You tend to link incidents and in this case:

DAI banned from India.

Why? graphic content

Who did it ? EA

Well there u go. People would start criticizing them and warn others against them.

 

So I believe not releasing the game, would be more detrimental than launching it.

[Ina]

The damage has already been done. People already know about it, not just in India but around the world. Wasn't it foreign sites that first reported this news? Heck, how many gamers in India know what Dragon Age is? Most gamers in India mostly know about FIFA, Battefield and COD and that is the truth. RPG players are few in number. For RPG games, AC:Unity is there at the right time to steer gamers away from this incident.

It might be true that the country didn't pass the game but instantly after that EA's name gets attached to it automatically.

All this might be true, but I don't see why it would be EA's fault that their game might breach local laws. I know it's fashionable to hate EA and I myself am not a huge fan of their business practices, but I can't blame EA in this instance provided what has been revealed so far is accurate.

[Aditya26]

There has been some debate going on about homosexuality here lately,It was decriminalized in 2009 ,but then the judgement was ruled out by top court siting that only lawmakers can amend laws,so yeah its an ongoing process,it might be amended in future.

The current law is the archaic one which was inherited from the british indian law of 1860s,it needs amendment,but amendments in india are a gruelling process,involving lots of politics.

 

ROFL! and then you accused *me* of talking about politics and theories...its good to see you are following my footsteps now. And I mean really, with a thread title asking "why this game is banned?" what else people are suppose to post? How to make paper kites?! 

 

On the topic, I am guessing, its now hopeless to think EA will ever revoke the cancellation, and I can understand their position. Its incredibly sad that this has happened one week prior to the game's launch. 

 

To maintain the goodwill of Indian gamer's the least they could do is not to ban this game on Indian Origin store which is purchased legally from other sources, and let it activate smoothly. It shouldn't be too much of a task to redirect all the Indian users to say, UK servers for activation, save game sync and multiplayer.  

[Ina]

 

To maintain the goodwill of Indian gamer's the least they could do is not to ban this game on Indian Origin store which is purchased legally from other sources, and let it activate smoothly. It shouldn't be too much of a task to redirect all the Indian users to say, UK servers for activation, save game sync and multiplayer.  

Unless they face legal action for simply allowing users to keep purchases made abroad, I highly doubt they will actively prevent users from keeping the games. Still, I'm cautious until release and will not buy the game till I'm sure. I mean the xbox and psn seem to stock the games on loophole technicality that the store is not hosted in India, so it gives some hope.

[Sid1205]

As per the agent I spoke to, he said global keys would work normally but u cannot make in game purchases although MP and Keep access would work. He also said that 3rd party retailers might sell the game in India, but that would not be the Indian edition and EA don't have control over this.

[Aditya26]

Unless they face legal action for simply allowing users to keep purchases made abroad, I highly doubt they will actively prevent users from keeping the games. Still, I'm cautious until release and will not buy the game till I'm sure. 

 

This is true. Being cautious is the only way ahead. No matter how much I am dying to play the game, I will not purchase any product key just yet. Even if the game pre-loads, it's not a guarantee that I will be able to play it. What if I launch the game and get the message saying "You are not authorized to play this game from this region. Sorry for the inconvenience." or somesuch. I am also sceptical about patches and DLC. 

[slaythatdragon]

I don't get it.
How are people finding reps who say it'll work?
I've tried 4 times so far and each time they tell me you wouldn't be able to activate it from India.