I don't know about you guys but this is the best news for me. I really hated the Chantry from the moment I knew about them. I don't want to kill priests though, their ruling and political power needs to go or be really limited. Anyone else feels the same?
Why weaken it when your purposes can become one?
Why weaken it when your purposes can become one?
I take it you're addressing why the protagonist might distrust the Chantry of Andraste, and therefore why the main character might want to diminish the power of the Chantry, or make it an impotent organization altogether. In terms of the elven protagonist, the Dalish being forced to live nomadic lifestyles because their religion and culture are outlawed could be one of many reasons, while an mage protagonist who believes in autonomy for the Circles might take an issue with how mages are imprisoned in Circles as a primary reason to oppose working with the Chantry, or even share the view that the Chantry controlled Circles are an institution that's tantamount to slavery. It all boils down to the simple fact that there are reasons why some might not be inclined to trust the Chantry, or want an alliance with the organization.
I don't see my Dalish mage trusting the Chantry of Andraste given everything that's transpired between the Chantry and the Dalish, and I can imagine there are others who might play as characters who don't want to put themselves in a position where they could be stabbed in the back by an organization they have no reason to have any faith in.
can you do the opposite? My first character is strongly pro-chantry, so uhm, I want to know if you can support the chantry and work with them.
elf playthrough: probably will actively be killing chantry people who don't bow before my whims.
qunari: probably less bloodthirsty about the whole thing.
dwarf: probably not going to make friends with them.
human: maybe nice about the whole thing.
can you do the opposite? My first character is strongly pro-chantry, so uhm, I want to know if you can support the chantry and work with them.
Yes, they don't support you at the beginning but basically you can *replace key members who will support Inquisition.
Also if I'm not mistaken Elven Inquisitor cannot be Andrastian, I was watching two streams, in one of them the protagonist was human and in the other it was an elf. During a same conversation in both streams the human had a dialogue "Praise the Maker" and the same dialogue in elven Inquisitor was "I worship Elven gods". So anyone who wanted to roleplay an Andrastian Elf will be disappointed unless I'm mistaken or things change in the future.
It might be true about other races so if anyone wants to play pro-chantry human is the way to go.
Yes, they don't support you at the beginning but basically you can *replace key members who will support Inquisition.
Also if I'm not mistaken Elven Inquisitor cannot be Andrastian, I was watching two streams, in one of them the protagonist was human and in the other it was an elf. During a same conversation in both streams the human had a dialogue "Praise the Maker" and the same dialogue in elven Inquisitor was "I worship Elven gods". So anyone who wanted to roleplay an Andrastian Elf will be disappointed unless I'm mistaken or things change in the future.
It might be true about other races so if anyone wants to play pro-chantry human is the way to go.
So I was right when I said they'd force people to play as a Pro-Dalish Dalish.
My mage will, so far as it seems, try to look for peace but there's no way I'm outright submitting to the Chantry (in both in general and in specific instances). I'm hoping the writing will have have me question this stance (either way) though.
So I was right when I said they'd force people to play as a Pro-Dalish Dalish.
And this is lame, if true.
Example:
*plays Dalish Elf
*experiences Andraste? What? Maybe..
*Shows trepidation about believing in the Maker and all that, but due to the trans-formative experience with the Mark, is open to other possibilities
I'd like that ^
So I was right when I said they'd force people to play as a Pro-Dalish Dalish.
Well you don't have to choose the worship of elven gods dialogue. There were other neutral choices indicating why would Maker choose an elf to be the savior? Cassandra answers" Elves want to preserve the world as much as humans do."
You cannot be Andrastian but that doesn't mean you have to be pro-Dalish, your heritage is Dalish but the personality is quite open for you to build. You don't have to mistrust other races or call humans Shemlen or muck the maker, however you certainly can do these things if you wanted . During your play people will insult you for being an elf but don't fret, you have quite strong answers in your arsenal 
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My Mage characters will never support the Chantry in it's current form.
My Rogues will not care either way they just want money and power
My Warriors will be devout Chantry followers
Yes, they don't support you at the beginning but basically you can *replace key members who will support Inquisition.
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This makes me feel better. My quizzy was planned as a devoted and strong supporter of the chantry. So being able to support it is good, even if politicking is neccessary.
As much as I might have my reservations about the Chantry, I was hoping to make use of its resources and influences. Now its just being ridiculously impotent and stupid.
As much as I might have my reservations about the Chantry, I was hoping to make use of its resources and influences. Now its just being ridiculously impotent and stupid.
The only true Chantry is the Imperial Chantry from the Imperium and since the IC won't be in DA:I well it's time to clean house.
And this is lame, if true.
Example:
*plays Dalish Elf
*experiences Andraste? What? Maybe..
*Shows trepidation about believing in the Maker and all that, but due to the trans-formative experience with the Mark, is open to other possibilities
I'd like that ^
Yeah.
Well you don't have to choose the worship of elven gods dialogue. There were other neutral choices indicating why would Maker choose an elf to be the savior? Cassandra answers" Elves want to preserve the world as much as humans do."
You cannot be Andrastian but that doesn't mean you have to be pro-Dalish, your heritage is Dalish but the personality is quite open for you to build. You don't have to mistrust other races or call humans Shemlen or muck the maker, however you certain can do these things if you wanted . During your play people will insult you for being an elf but don't fret, you have quite strong answers in your arsenal
They have chosen your religion for you since there isn't a "I don't believe in the Elven Pantheon", and thus your culture since the religion is a huge part of it for the Dalish. So yes, you are a Pro-Dalish Dalish. The only things you apparently get to decide is if you are a zealot or tolerate of others.
Maybe you can change your religion with time, all we know is at the beginning the Dalish elf is not Andrastian.
I'm very okay with being a Dalish elf. I just want to have the option to move past that and into a form of Maker reverence.
If DAI allows that, then great.
My Qunari won't care for the Chantry, and finds it offensive to be called the "Herald of Andraste." He'll like the idea of a Circle, but only as a School. Like Hogworts. A place mages should be proud to be going to, but are free to come an go. He won't kill innocents but should a priestess try anything like Sister/Mother Patrice in DA2, he'll gut her like a fish.
I don't know about Andrastianism, but I do know from watching youtube vids that if asked, you can express your belief in the maker, express your acceptance of being the Herald of Andraste, thus implying your character believes in Andraste herself. Whether they can respond to convos with "praise the maker" or tout an Andrastian faith is unknown to me, but I DO know we can express belief in Andrastian deities and historical figures.
I don't know about Andrastianism, but I do know from watching youtube vids that if asked, you can express your belief in the maker, express your acceptance of being the Herald of Andraste, thus implying your character believes in Andraste herself. Whether they can respond to convos with "praise the maker" or tout an Andrastian faith is unknown to me, but I DO know we can express belief in Andrastian deities and historical figures.
That's basically what I said, as en elf you can express you don't believe in maker but accept that you have chosen for a purpose. Or claim why would a human god choose an elf and similar choices.
You cannot change your beliefs coming from your heritage immediately after you start the game. For example no matter your preference Hawke has done everything in his/her power to protect Bethany from Templars. No matter how pro templar you are you can only express it as the time passes by and you experience events. I think its the right way to go. You might be able to change your views as en elf on Maker and Andraste but not in the beginning and out of the blue. You are a Dalish elf and have worshiped elven Patheon all your life. It would be unnatural if you changed it overnight.
That's basically what I said, as en elf you can express you don't believe in maker but accept that you have chosen for a purpose. Or claim why would a human god choose an elf and similar choices.
You cannot change your beliefs coming from your heritage immediately after you start the game. For example no matter your preference Hawke has done everything in his/her power to protect Bethany from Templars. No matter how pro templar you are you can only express it as the time passes by and you experience events. I think its the right way to go. You might be able to change your views as en elf on Maker and Andraste but not in the beginning and out of the blue. You are a Dalish elf and have worshiped elven Patheon all your life. It would be unnatural if you changed it overnight.
Ah sorry. Didn't see this.
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