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i cant believe im the one saying this, but there is no reason to be cruel to people who are playing on last gen, i think at this point they are well aware that it wont look as good. Not everyone can afford a pc or knows enough about comp hardware to know what to look for or be able to buy or make a cheap one that is good. TBH with the pitiful lineup of exclusives for X1 and PS4 i can understand why people arent all that interested in paying 400bucks for em, or 4000kr over here in Sweden, especially when they arent equipped with strong hardware either.

 

Now thats enough compassion out of me for one day, or possibly a week *shudders*


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Then the PS3 version better look good. I'm about to watch a vid of that version, I guess I'll see. I've heard the user interface is messed up on that version, hopefully that's false.

Hope so to!

 

Just trying to give people a heads up, don't want anyone dissapointed on release :S

 

We still have to publish our last gen reviews.



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Hope so to!

 

Just trying to give people a heads up, don't want anyone dissapointed on release :S

 

We still have to publish our last gen reviews.

 

I thought it looks better. Just posted my impressions in the thread for it. You posted there too, so you know the one.



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Hi guys..

 

looks good on all platforms ..but,with this brilliant game engine its a complete no-brainer  got to be  pc..its a different class |!!... hope to see you guys in game ive got inquisitors  chest coming on Friday :)



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It looks surprisingle nice.

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No it does not look terrible.
 

 
It looked nice! I did not even think of it as a problem.

Compared to what I played of DAI on the Xbox One it does look terrible in comparison. But that is my subjective opinion based on what I have played. One persons terrible is another persons fine. Too me it is not what I am used to and got excited for.

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For me the frame rate would be a big no, no! I mean during boss fight it obviously can not handle rift effects....If I had no other means of playing it I would be OK with graphics, but FPS below 30 is just bad.



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Compared to what I played of DAI on the Xbox One it does look terrible in comparison. But that is my subjective opinion based on what I have played. One persons terrible is another persons fine. Too me it is not what I am used to and got excited for.

You should rather compare it with other games on Xbox 360 and in my opinion it's holding up well.

 

If you compare AC Unity on PS4/X1 with the PC-version in 4K on two high-end Nvidia GPUs, it also looks a lot worse. But that would not be fair. 



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You should rather compare it with other games on Xbox 360 and in my opinion it's holding up well.
 
If you compare AC Unity on PS4/X1 with the PC-version in 4K on two high-end Nvidia GPUs, it also looks a lot worse. But that would not be fair.

I think people may have the wrong idea. I am not saying this looks bad for Xbox 360. Not at all. It looks like it may be one of the better looking games for last gen. The problem is I already played it at a much better quality.

How can I forget the DAI I played on the Xbox One so I don't compare it to that experience again? Alcohol? I'll try that. Look I am not a negative person and I am pretty cheap so I really usually look past things like graphics. But, this kind of let's me down. I was really amazed at the quality of DAI when I played it.

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I think people may have the wrong idea. I am not saying this looks bad for Xbox 360. Not at all. It looks like it may be one of the better looking games for last gen. The problem is I already played it at a much better quality.

How can I forget the DAI I played on the Xbox One so I don't compare it to that experience again? Alcohol? I'll try that. Look I am not a negative person and I am pretty cheap so I really usually look past things like graphics. But, this kind of let's me down. I was really amazed at the quality of DAI when I played it.

What speaks against buying it for the One and never thinking about the 360-version again?



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I'm just confused and scared. I'm sorry. Hopefully, I can find a cheap Xbox One on craiglist or poach some kid trying to trade it in for cash at GameStop. They are only giving people 160 for a used one!

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Immersion takes quite a hit when you play on last gen.. you're being fed only a slice of the experience you get on CG or PC.

 

No, you get the full gameplay experience as you would on any other platform. They have removed nothing gameplay wise from the game and trying to make that argument is just silly on your part.

Yeah, the ps3/xbox 360 is old but its managed to do well in its many years of life. There's no point upgrading to new gen when theres such a small list of games available on the damned thing, not to mention the constant firmeware updates that just break the thing. (for the PS4 at least)

Game looks great for a ps3 game, and I haven't seen any huge frame stutter yet. If its there, well so what?  have you even played Dragon Age 2?
That game stuttered like a champ when you WERENT in a boss battle, yet people played it through to the finish. This seems to be doing better then DA 2 in that sense and I could easily forgive any stutter that exists.
 

 

 

Your arguments are complete failures, ofcourse theyre not going to spend time on old consoles.. they're end of life.... theyre doing you a service releasing at all on that hardware!

 

 

Christ, I thought Id seen it all...then I met you. People like you really are the scum of the gaming world :P
Please, please take pride in that. It would do you well :)


Seriously though, they're releasing it on previous gen not to do us a service, but to maximise sales and to get the game in the hands of as many people as possible. The last gen consoles are able to run the game, albeit at a lower quality (which was obvious).

So long as the game performs and looks better then DA 2 , then Im pretty sure most of us will be happy. And since it appears it does, I aint complaining.

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Nothing I said above means I dont think it looks better on current gen/ PC , because of course it does. Just saying you dont need to be a giant [Insert Insult Of Choice] to the people who play on last gen because they dont see a need to upgrade yet.
 


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*shrug*

 

Last-gen looks like last-gen.  Seeing as how I'm used to playing on my PS3, that doesn't bother me in the slightest.

 

Is it uglier compared to current-gen? Of course, but seeing as how I'm not going to be able to afford a PS4 console for at least another year, I'm just happy that the game is available on my anciet hardware.

 

If anyone is wondering why I don't run out and buy a PS4 right now, I happen to find paying for food, college, rent, electricity, gas, and financially supporting my physically disabled mother a lot more important right now than dropping $400.00 on a toy.  To semi-quote Sten: "You either have an enviable life, or a pitiable memory to know nothing of financial hardship."   :D

 

 


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No, you get the full gameplay experience as you would on any other platform. They have removed nothing gameplay wise from the game and trying to make that argument is just silly on your part.

Yeah, the ps3/xbox 360 is old but its managed to do well in its many years of life. There's no point upgrading to new gen when theres such a small list of games available on the damned thing, not to mention the constant firmeware updates that just break the thing. (for the PS4 at least)

Game looks great for a ps3 game, and I haven't seen any huge frame stutter yet. If its there, well so what?  have you even played Dragon Age 2?
That game stuttered like a champ when you WERENT in a boss battle, yet people played it through to the finish. This seems to be doing better then DA 2 in that sense and I could easily forgive any stutter that exists.
 

 

 

Christ, I thought Id seen it all...then I met you. People like you really are the scum of the gaming world :P
Please, please take pride in that. It would do you well :)


Seriously though, they're releasing it on previous gen not to do us a service, but to maximise sales and to get the game in the hands of as many people as possible. The last gen consoles are able to run the game, albeit at a lower quality (which was obvious).

So long as the game performs and looks better then DA 2 , then Im pretty sure most of us will be happy. And since it appears it does, I aint complaining.

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Nothing I said above means I dont think it looks better on current gen/ PC , because of course it does. Just saying you dont need to be a giant [Insert Insult Of Choice] to the people who play on last gen because they dont see a need to upgrade yet.
 

I'm sorry but a game that runs sub 30fps, with stutter, terrible pop in and just terrible textures is one of the reasons it diminishes the immersion factor for the majority of people, not to mention an altered version of the game.. yeah they lied to you. streets in haven are empty compared to NG/PC, in missions there is less NPCs on screen, camps and hubs are half empty just to mention a few things..

 

The PS4 firmware caused issues, however they fixed it with a 2.01 and 2.02 patch within the same week.. now tell me this never happened on 360 and ps3? (im not even going to discuss windows 8 in depth here rofl)

If being the scum of the gaming world means not wanting to play a watered down excuse of a port to maximize sales, i will gladly be the 'scum' of the gaming world. You're right its sales, not a service :) Do know your console is EOL, despite MS or Sony telling you they will keep supporting it, unfortunately devs wont, the time to get a port working or specifically make assets or architecture converisions for the old consoles is going to cost too much. Ubisoft is one of the first AAA Devs to announce that their 'flagship' franchises wont be releasing on LG anymore.
 

I get that people dont have money to go PC or upgrade to a new iteration of the console, but blindly defending it is just silly.. instead of seeing it as an attack on you or your console see it as a way of warning you, you are not going to get what you expect.


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Eh looks fine. Barely play games anyways and don't want to waste $400 on a console just for it to collect dust.

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I get that people dont have money to go PC or upgrade to a new iteration of the console, but blindly defending it is just silly.. instead of seeing it as an attack on you or your console see it as a way of warning you, you are not going to get what you expect.

Im not defending it blindly mate. Im telling you that you cant speak for a majority of gamers when clearly theres some disparity here. Seems like a number of people disagree with you buddy.

The framerate stutter has nothing to do with the console, thats on Biowares end. Dragon Age Origins had horrible stutter, and DA2 had stutter as well. Inquisition seems to be the best in regards to stutter when comparing it to the past games.

Obviously the game looks better on current gen/ PC, thats a given, but if immersion takes such a big hit due to some technical issues...then thats Biowares fault for designing a crappy game, not the console. Since it seems people who have played it on last gen are liking the game, I can take a guess that those of us playing in last gen wont be having an issue getting immersed.


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Im not defending it blindly mate. Im telling you that you cant speak for a majority of gamers when clearly theres some disparity here. Seems like a number of people disagree with you buddy.

The framerate stutter has nothing to do with the console, thats on Biowares end. Dragon Age Origins had horrible stutter, and DA2 had stutter as well. Inquisition seems to be the best in regards to stutter when comparing it to the past games.

Obviously the game looks better on current gen/ PC, thats a given, but if immersion takes such a big hit due to some technical issues...then thats Biowares fault for designing a crappy game, not the console. Since it seems people who have played it on last gen are liking the game, I can take a guess that those of us playing in last gen wont be having an issue getting immersed.

I disagree, performance problems come from bad PC ports and in the current case old hardware doesn't improve it all that much.

 

Its not just technical performance they watered down the game as well, like i mentioned before. Still.. technical issues on 9 year old hardware.. who would off thought it wouldnt happen..

 

Stutter and FPS are 2 different things, this game consistently controls sluggish in combat due to a low framerate, with the additional stutter it skips frames, so you overshoot a target, freeze for a sec etc.

We're not going to agree, and that is fine, all i say is whenever you have a PC or PS4/X1 go back to this game give it a rent or play it at a mates, and you'll see how much more enjoyable games are on the hardware where no NPCs are cut, streets are busy and combat and cutscenes are fluent.

All im saying is, expect alot of technical issues, i know since i played the NG versions and my colleagues the PS3 version which i believe are still under review embargo.



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All im saying is, expect alot of technical issues, i know since i played the NG versions and my colleague the PS3 version.

You mean like Origins and 2?

Yeah, I think we all expect that. The FPS seems fine and the stutter doesnt seems as bad as 2, which is all I think some people wanted. 
They havent watered it down, if you think a few high end textures and background NPCs = the full gameplay experience...then well...Im so so sorry for you : (

And honestly, why should I:
A: Trust you on your word that you and your friend both played this game when they did not send out last gen review copies
B: Give a crap what you think makes the gameplay experience?  People have different opinions about these things so its best left up to THEM to decide. Only report on technical issues, dont tell us what destroys the gameplay unless you state that its only YOUR opinion.


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 PS3 version I think. Not sure if spoiler tags are needed or not.

 

SPOILER WARNING JUST INCASE. It is the intro.

 

 

 



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People have different opinions about these things so its best left up to THEM to decide. Only report on technical issues, dont tell us what destroys the gameplay unless you state that its only YOUR opinion.

Reflect a bit, you do the exact same ;) just the other way around.

I'll be enjoying the game on PS4 and PC as i found the LG port unplayable by watching a colleague play it, now have fun playing the game on your EOL console, hope you wont be one of those people complaining about the performance or misc issues post release, it would just make you look so silly after all of this.

 



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Was anyone expecting it to look nice? Its a surprise they even bothered releasing this on last gen consoles anyway.

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I'll be enjoying the game on as it should, now have fun playing that broken game on your EOL console, hope you wont be one of those people complaining about the performance or misc issues post release, it would just make you look so silly after all of this.

 

Ladies and Gentleman, I give you..... Mr Entitled of the "IKnowHowItIsBetterThenAnyone" House. Purveyor of snarky comments and witty come backs, loved by none other then himself.

You play the part oh so well If I do say so my good sir. Enjoy being part of "those" people whilst I enjoy my game on the still functioning PS3 whilst having a healthy respect for the new gen and last gen alike.

Btw, nice work avoiding my accusations of you not having early access to last gen review copies ;)


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You mean like Origins and 2?

Yeah, I think we all expect that. The FPS seems fine and the stutter doesnt seems as bad as 2, which is all I think some people wanted. 
They havent watered it down, if you think a few high end textures and background NPCs = the full gameplay experience...then well...Im so so sorry for you : (

And honestly, why should I:
A: Trust you on your word that you and your friend both played this game when they did not send out last gen review copies
B: Give a crap what you think makes the gameplay experience?  People have different opinions about these things so its best left up to THEM to decide. Only report on technical issues, dont tell us what destroys the gameplay unless you state that its only YOUR opinion.

he isnt the only one who has said this. Lady insanity also noted the huge difference in last gen, infact it was one of her big cons for the game, how much of it was watered down and taken out. I dont see how this is biowares fault for designing a "crappy" game when 360/ps3 both have very weak hardware, there is only so much you can do with it, and DAI is one of the most demanding rpg games atm.


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Ladies and Gentleman, I give you..... Mr Entitled of the "IKnowHowItIsBetterThenAnyone" House. Purveyor of snarky comments and witty come backs, loved by none other then himself.

You play the part oh so well If I do say so my good sir. Enjoy being part of "those" people whilst I enjoy my game on the still functioning PS3 whilst having a healthy respect for the new gen and last gen alike.

Btw, nice work avoiding my accusations of you not having early access to last gen review copies ;)

Just shows how little you know, they are sent out, under embargo.

 

Look at the reply above me for starters  :whistle:

 

Getting really worked up over this arent you, like the poster above said as well.. its watered down, not just its graphics, more than one early reviewer leaked it so far.. huge disparity and a lot of issues. see for yourself come release.



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he isnt the only one who has said this. Lady insanity also noted the huge difference in last gen, infact it was one of her big cons for the game, how much of it was watered down and taken out. I dont see how this is biowares fault for designing a "crappy" game when 360/ps3 both have very weak hardware, there is only so much you can do with it, and DAI is one of the most demanding rpg games atm.

Its more along the lines of how people are using those words. They didnt take anything out, per se. Did they have to water down graphics? Of course they did. Like you said, its demanding.

That doesn't change the fact that the game plays largely the same across all platforms, PC probably being the only exception unless you hook up a gamepad.

Now I do agree, the texture load in is quite bad, but this was seen in Battlefield 4 as well. The engine doesn't do that well unless you have a mid to high end PC. For a last gen game, it looks pretty freaking good. Im not blind to its technical shortcomings, just a little iffed at people who write the entire console off now that a new one is out is all x)

 

 

Just shows how little you know, they are sent out, under embargo.

 

Look at the reply above me for starters  :whistle:

 

Getting really worked up over this arent you, like the poster above said as well.. its watered down, not just its graphics, more than one early reviewer leaked it so far.. huge disparity and a lot of issues. see for yourself come release.

Do those really seem like review copies genius?
If that was the case, many other review sites and whatnot would have got them ordered so that they could report on the difference between current and last gen. Please, I know you only have a few brain cells left, but try to use them to full effectiveness, you're embarrassing yourself.

Now lets quit the childish internet argument for one moment, if you're able to do that, and discuss these disparities.

I never said that there wasnt a difference, and its true that the difference is more then one should expect. A lot of this I could blame on the engine as the same issues exist on Battlefield 4, especially with online MP. That being said, you tend to look past those issues after some time. Focusing on the issues only makes them seem worse then they are.

Now I said dont "focus" on them, but you shouldnt ignore them. They are indeed issues and I feel as though they would have been better off not releasing the game on last gen. 

That being said, the game is still leaps better then DA2, which is all you should "expect" from the next title in a series. Its enough for me to enjoy the game Im sure, as it would be for many others.

Now once again, I do agree the game performs and looks better on current gen/pc , just dont completely write off the last gen version because its not top tier or whatnot. It still seems to perform better then DA2, despite having similar issues as BF4.