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So after DAI is out and they are done producing DLC for it, what do you want to see from them? Dragon Age 4? Or maybe something different?

It's my thought that after the massive undertaking that went into DAI they might want a break from the fantasy genre and change gears a bit. Much like Bethesda does now alternating between Elder Scrolls and Fallout. 

 

I am sure it will still be an RPG but what kind? Me? I would love a superhero RPG; kind of a Jade Empire type Action RPG but a bit more fun. Your first companion is your sidekick and then eventually you start up a Justice League-esque team. Could be neat.



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Bioware has several studios, 4 if I remember correctly.

They pretty much always, at this point, have several games in production. They have DA I, ME 4, Shadow Realms (LOL), and the unannounced IP.

I feel that the next game to come out will be ME4, given that they've been talking about it a little. Or maybe they'll count Shadow Realms (LOL) as a full release and delay ME4 to 2016...but I hope not.

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Twilight RPG. BioWare is the AAA developer most uniquely suited for the role.


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Twilight RPG. BioWare is the AAA developer most uniquely suited for the role.

No

 

They are gonna be tied with support and DLC for some time.

 

After that, New IP I guess. 



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If they keep the inquisition model I would like an espionage flavored game.



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Yeah they have a few studios but I was specifically talking about Edmonton's next project (the guys who've been doing Dragon Age for the past decade straight at this point). DLC/expansions will carry them about 18 months out from now by 9 months or so from now they'll have decided what they are doing next.



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I would also like a Jade Empire type action RPG, they can call it Jade Empire 2.
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Yeah they have a few studios but I was specifically talking about Edmonton's next project (the guys who've been doing Dragon Age for the past decade straight at this point). DLC/expansions will carry them about 18 months out from now by 9 months or so from now they'll have decided what they are doing next.


I suspect they'll have some DLC to work on, and I think they'll begin development of the next DA game. That's how it was with Inquisition (and with ME4).

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Bioware should contract Ninja Stan to steal the Alpha Protocol rights. It's not a high priority IP for Sega, there's probably just like two interns guarding it... No one will miss them!

I don't know. I've heard there are a few more sequels planned for Dragon Age. I'd think Edmonton would keep working on that, but maybe they'd trade it off with another studio to prevent creative fatigue or something. If I end up falling in love with Inquisition I'd probably feel really awful to see them leave it, but I do got my hopes for things.
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If they keep the inquisition model I would like an espionage flavored game.

 

DA: Exaltation.

 

A new Exalted March is called on the Qunari who have finally decided to invade. The PC is a Rivaini agent who can aid the Chantry to push back the Qunari, assist the Qunari with occupying Rivain, or represent the Rivaini Seers undermining both the Chant and the Qun and returning Rivain's ancient traditions to the forefront of politics and influence.

 

I would play this.


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Bioware should contract Ninja Stan to steal the Alpha Protocol rights. It's not a high priority IP for Sega, there's probably just like two interns guarding it... No one will miss them!

I don't know. I've heard there are a few more sequels planned for Dragon Age. I'd think Edmonton would keep working on that, but maybe they'd trade it off with another studio to prevent creative fatigue or something. If I end up falling in love with Inquisition I'd probably feel really awful to see them leave it, but I do got my hopes for things.

 

God no.

 

Alpha Protocol was a trainwreck when it came to gameplay and stability, but BioWare would not be able to capture the somewhat self-aware cheesy B-movie Bond wannabe tone that Alpha Protocol had in it's writing.

 

The thing with BioWare is that they're too serious, too dramatic and their idea of humour is awkward sex jokes and references (#RideTheBull). I don't want to imagine a world with a BioWare-written Brayko or Heck.


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God no.

 

Alpha Protocol was a trainwreck when it came to gameplay and stability, but BioWare would not be able to capture the somewhat self-aware cheesy B-movie Bond wannabe tone that Alpha Protocol had in it's writing.

 

The thing with BioWare is that they're too serious, too dramatic and their idea of humour is awkward sex jokes and references (#RideTheBull). I don't want to imagine a world with a BioWare-written Brayko or Heck.

 

I 110% agree.



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God no.

 

Alpha Protocol was a trainwreck when it came to gameplay and stability, but BioWare would not be able to capture the somewhat self-aware cheesy B-movie Bond wannabe tone that Alpha Protocol had in it's writing.

 

The thing with BioWare is that they're too serious, too dramatic and their idea of humour is awkward sex jokes and references (#RideTheBull). I don't want to imagine a world with a BioWare-written Brayko or Heck.

 

As much as I want an AP sequel (that's actually playable) I would rather not have one than BioWare buying the IP and writing for it. Add the attention of the rabid sjw that count themselves among the fanatic BW supporters into the mix and you have a recipe for disaster.


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Bioware has Edmonton, Montreal, and (I guessss) Austin.

 

Edmonton has been doing DAI, 'NewIP', and likely some work on 'ME4'.

Montreal has been doing ME4 and possibly some work on other things.

Austin has been doing SWTOR and SR (Shadow Realms).

 

Possible broad timeline:

2014 - Dragon Age: Inquisition, SWTOR: Shadow of Revan

2015 - DAI DLC, Mass Effect 4(?), Shadow Realms (?)

2016 - ME4(?), SR(?), New IP(?)

2017 - New IP(?)

 

This obviously does not include unannounced titles.

 

Bioware figures have expressed interest in at least a couple more Dragon Age titles, acknowledgement of the interest from gamers about Jade Empire, and is calling the next Mass Effect the 'definitive' Mass Effect, whatever that means (an end or a new beginning).

 

Anything that sounds like the New IP was some tweet with the words "space nuns" in it, though I don't know whether it should be taken as legit.

 

But it does spark some ideas. Could it be the combination of fantasy and sci-fi as its own new genre form? Dune could be called that, and it received high praise. And Dune certainly had space nuns.

 

Generally, I see 2014 to be a Dragon Age year (duh), 2015 to be a Shadow Realms and/or Mass Effect year, and 2016 to be a Mass Effect and/or NewIP year, and we'll see about 2017+ when it comes to more Mass Effect, Dragon Age, or whatever else. We do know there will be a 'whatever else', and it'll be Bioware Edmonton, but no other significant details...



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I suspect they'll have some DLC to work on, and I think they'll begin development of the next DA game. That's how it was with Inquisition (and with ME4).

 

Yep. At least as long as DAI does well enough, 2015 will be full of DLC, and at the very most (naively) optimistically, one or two full expansions. Okay, probably just DLC. lol

 

We need to keep in mind that the planning process is always ongoing. When they were doing DAO DLC, they were thinking of DA2. When they were doing DA2 DLC, they were thinking of 'DA3' (aka DAI). Concept art and prototyping starts as early as possible, just as I know that 'ME4' concept art and prototyping began as early as 2012.

 

DA: Exaltation.

 

A new Exalted March is called on the Qunari who have finally decided to invade. The PC is a Rivaini agent who can aid the Chantry to push back the Qunari, assist the Qunari with occupying Rivain, or represent the Rivaini Seers undermining both the Chant and the Qun and returning Rivain's ancient traditions to the forefront of politics and influence.

 

I would play this.

 

The impression I've gotten is that the next Dragon Age would move significantly away from Chantry focus and having a foot in the 'past' (the Ferelden/Orlais map symbolism), and instead go totally into exploration of new themes. If we have a Chantry matter in DA4, it would be the Black Divine, not the White Divine. Think less Ferelden, Orlais, and maybe Free Marches - and more Tevinter, Anderfels, Serheron, Antiva, Rivain, Seheron, Par Volan, Nevarra.

 

An Exalted March would be too similar in theme to the Inquisition (even if it isn't literally the same thing). If anything, I'd imagine there to be a relatively more contained story which has Bioware able to focus on the internal workings of city environments like they've worked on the 'open world' of Inquisition.

 

And in that, I have to agree with you. Being an agent, undermining factions, playing with power and influence - this is all stuff that Inquisition is bringing up as important, but I wouldn't say that it is the absolute focus (which would be the Breach stuff). If we could be akin to power broker in northern Thedas, that could be very interesting indeed. Not just a more helpless bystander of events like Hawke (not saying he didn't have agency, just that things got beyond him), but the initiator of events and power shifts across all/most of Thedas.

 

Would be cool.

 

And to be clear, an Exalted March could happen. I only wouldn't consider it smart of BW to make it the focus of the narrative and mechanics.



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As much as I want an AP sequel (that's actually playable) I would rather not have one than BioWare buying the IP and writing for it. Add the attention of the rabid sjw that count themselves among the fanatic BW supporters into the mix and you have a recipe for disaster.

 

The way SJWs attacked Matt Taylor and bullied him into submission was absolutely disgraceful. Man works for over a decade to help land a spacecraft on a moving comet, and his life's achievement is turned to crushing condemnation because he's wearing a tacky shirt to help promote his female friend/artist.

 

"I don't care that something incredible and groundbreaking happened, your shirt is sexist."

 

How do these people function in the real world? SJWs are transforming from a subculture to laugh at, to a subculture I feel is becoming legitimately dangerous to human progress. 

 

/offtopicrant


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I was under the impression that "NewIP" and Shadow Realms are the same thing. Unless there's a new NewIP, which could very well be the type of thing I was talking about.

 

I'd be expecting DLC through 2015, a different game/genre altogether released in 2017 or early 2018 and then Dragon Age 4 in 2021



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The way SJWs attacked Matt Taylor and bullied him into submission was absolutely disgraceful. Man works for over a decade to help land a spacecraft on a moving comet, and his life's achievement is turned to crushing condemnation because he's wearing a tacky shirt to help promote his female friend/artist.

 

"I don't care that something incredible and groundbreaking happened, your shirt is sexist."

 

How do these people function in the real world? SJWs are transforming from a subculture to laugh at, to a subculture I feel is becoming legitimately dangerous to human progress. 

 

/offtopicrant

 

Yo, I looked at my search engine's results!

 

Spoiler

 

Eh, that radiator is so old school!


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I was under the impression that "NewIP" and Shadow Realms are the same thing. Unless there's a new NewIP, which could very well be the type of thing I was talking about.

 

I'd be expecting DLC through 2015, a different game/genre altogether released in 2017 or early 2018 and then Dragon Age 4 in 2021

 

No, there was a twitter comment by someone, Aaron Flyn or somebody, that Shadow Realms (LOL) is not the new IP.

 

Also this

http://www.gamefront...-is-working-on/



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Yo, I looked at my search engine's results!
 

Spoiler

 
Eh, that radiator is so old school!


Have to admit, I was initially shocked by the shirt too. It was like.... Is... Is he wearing a Playboy shirt, wat! But then online I got a closer look & I was like ah badass, sci fi theme! I wonder if the girl who made that for him would do other themes. I'd love a Mass Effect version, 2001, Robotech, or something like from Ralph Bakshi.

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Once the nanomachines take control of their offices in Edmonton I will determine what their new game will be.


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Sorry to say it, I really am... But I'm afraid Biower has screwed the pooch. The honeymoon is over. Let it go

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God no.
 
Alpha Protocol was a trainwreck when it came to gameplay and stability, but BioWare would not be able to capture the somewhat self-aware cheesy B-movie Bond wannabe tone that Alpha Protocol had in it's writing.
 
The thing with BioWare is that they're too serious, too dramatic and their idea of humour is awkward sex jokes and references (#RideTheBull). I don't want to imagine a world with a BioWare-written Brayko or Heck.


Heck will save their souls.

Brayko was interesting. I'd normally hate a character like that, but somehow I couldn't bring myself to hate him... I hated him during the boss fight for sure though, but that was pretty amazing too. I think that scary SIE woman would be the one to worry about. Not a welcoming climate for her character right now, in general, I would think.

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The only thing that made that boss fight bearable was hearing:

 

"Turn up, the radio! I need the music, gimme some more!"

 

That and seeing Brayko snorting crack and then charging around with a knife, that was just too funny.


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Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood 2


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