I don't think Bioware is interested in doing licensed games anymore. The reason they didn't do KotOR2 and passed it off to Obsidian was because they didn't like how Lucasarts kept having to approve everything, as much as I would love a Vampire Bloodlines 2.
Hell I just wish Troika hadn't fell apart. Would be nice having another RPG company out there to keep the gaps filled between Bioware, Obsidian and Bethesda releases.
Is that really such a surprise though? Think about it from a business point of view and not a artistic one. You make a game and it becomes wildly successful. Now you have millions of dollars to grow your brand even bigger so you can make bigger and better games. New young minds want to come work for your company with new skills and great ideas. Publishers are throwing money at you to join their parent company. Fans are expressing a desire to see something similar to what you just gave them. You know have the gaming world on baited breath.
Do you
A.) Make an entirely different game with no noticeable elements to the previous game, not even in a spiritual successor like way, but rather a completely different game in general. Like making From Software's Dark Souls, then following up with Bound by Flame?
or
B.) Make a game with 90% the same feel as the previous game even carrying the title with the appropriate sequel number, while only redesigning 10% of it for better game player, graphics, sound, and of course a entirely new story with new settings/characters?
I think companies should definitely make new IP''s every once and awhile, when a good idea comes along but trying to make a new simply because you want to stretch your legs or try something different when you have a winning formula is a bad idea in my opinion. Let the fans dictate when its time to move on, it's their money you want at the end of the day. So you build what they want, and when they get tired of that you go back to the creative pool and come up with something new.
Didn't I say the first persona games?
And while you call Secret World global and world conspiracy how much of it actual takes from real world global ideas outside of the Asian gang, Caucasian gang, Middle Eastern Gang, then sprinkles the emulated groups with whatever ideology best fits the theme the developers want that group to carry. The thing with the later Persona games and I guess to a extent all the persona games is that rather than supreme world conspiracy theory they stuck with what was relevant to what they were actual familiar with, a culture to which they obviously have some self vested interest in, having lived in Japan, that's what made the entire series more interesting, though obviously they sprinkled some improbabilities in them, and had a smaller niche overarching conspiracy suspense element to them as well, they did it more on a national level but that doesn't change the fact that it was there. Anyway this is starting to sound like a debate/argument and it's to early in the morning for me to start that about something that isn't at all what I was pointing out, you mentioned a modern day honor RPG, Persona in my opinion is indeed a modern day horror rpg whatever other elements it does or doesn't share with secret world is beyond the point i was making.
You can read into things as much as you like -- Conspiracy does not factor into the plot of 3 & 4. The games narrative revolved around the concepts of Death & Self-realization about one's self, how it factors into the life of any individual, the uglyness we don't wanna admit about outself The second game were heavily reliant on Lovecraftian storytelling, with ridiculous nonsense like dead people coming back to life, an alien armada led by space Hitler. Persona is as much of a horror game as Dragon Age Origins -- In retrospect, I don't really care what you think since I've already specified what I was asking about, and a Persona-inspired game wasn't that, but you felt you had to twist it around a bit then bait me into an argument with you. I even specified I didn't want to get into an argument about this so drop it and have a good morning. 
I don't think Bioware is interested in doing licensed games anymore. The reason they didn't do KotOR2 and passed it off to Obsidian was because they didn't like how Lucasarts kept having to approve everything, as much as I would love a Vampire Bloodlines 2.
Hell I just wish Troika hadn't fell apart. Would be nice having another RPG company out there to keep the gaps filled between Bioware, Obsidian and Bethesda releases.
No... there is another...
You'd think the way I talk up CDPR, I'd be a huge Witcher fanboy, instead of someone who has barely stuck his toe in. I just like their approach to pretty much everything from a business perspective (including their approach with GOG) and feel it will only be a matter of time until they make a game I will thoroughly enjoy.
I'm waiting to see what they do with Cyberpunk 2077(Which apparently atleast has a character creator), then I'll start paying more attention to them.
I'm waiting to see what they do with Cyberpunk 2077(Which apparently atleast has a character creator), then I'll start paying more attention to them.
If there was no MMO crap we would have lots of awesome singleplayer games (with optional multiplayer):
KOTOR III
NWN III
Ultima X
Warhammer RPG
Warcraft IV
etc.
I think they should just make visual novels and dating sims for awhile.
Hopefully the massive success of SP RPGS like Skyrim and DAI and the massive flop of MMOs (ESO, SWTOR) will start pushing developers back in the other direction.
I don't think any MMO will ever capture me the way the original Everquest did at least.
Hopefully the massive success of SP RPGS like Skyrim and DAI and the massive flop of MMOs (ESO, SWTOR) will start pushing developers back in the other direction.
I don't think any MMO will ever capture me the way the original Everquest did at least.
In fairness, SWTOR is the only MMO that managed to keep my attention all the way to the level cap, but I think that has more to do with me playing its class stories like a singleplayer RPG.
Bioware has several studios, 4 if I remember correctly.
They pretty much always, at this point, have several games in production. They have DA I, ME 4, Shadow Realms (LOL), and the unannounced IP.
I feel that the next game to come out will be ME4, given that they've been talking about it a little. Or maybe they'll count Shadow Realms (LOL) as a full release and delay ME4 to 2016...but I hope not.
They also have an unannounced Star Wars game, I'm hoping it is something like Kotor.
They also have an unannounced Star Wars game, I'm hoping it is something like Kotor.
Not sure that's confirmed. Though I remember reading something about that awhile ago.
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No... there is another...
You'd think the way I talk up CDPR, I'd be a huge Witcher fanboy, instead of someone who has barely stuck his toe in. I just like their approach to pretty much everything from a business perspective (including their approach with GOG) and feel it will only be a matter of time until they make a game I will thoroughly enjoy.
I'm waiting to see how they handle their noncombat skills.
RPGs feel empty to me if they don't handle Cyberpunk
or steampunk
with some layer of non combat skills. There is just too much world interaction to not take advantage of
Not sure that's confirmed. Though I remember reading something about that awhile ago.
http://www.ea.com/ne...star-wars-games
"The EA Studios that will develop these games are some of the most innovative and popular creative teams in the world, and include DICE and Visceral, in addition to the BioWare team, which is already developing for the Star Wars franchise."
http://www.ea.com/ne...star-wars-games
"The EA Studios that will develop these games are some of the most innovative and popular creative teams in the world, and include DICE and Visceral, in addition to the BioWare team, which is already developing for the Star Wars franchise."
That sounds like a reference to SWTOR.
I've considered that as well, but Wikipedia also claims that they are working on a new game and it's been like that since that news article was released: http://en.wikipedia....i/BioWare#Games
So that makes me think that they don't mean SWTOR. I see two different ways to interpret "in addition to the BioWare team, which is already developing for the Star Wars franchise."
I can see that meaning that they are working on SWTOR, but will also start working on something new and I can see it as meaning that they are already working on SWTOR for the franchise.
I don't know why (especially after getting burned so many times about Fallout 4), but I remain optimistic on this. I guess I just need something to look forward too 
I think they should just make visual novels and dating sims for awhile.
Agreed
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They also have an unannounced Star Wars game, I'm hoping it is something like Kotor.
Heck, just think about it from a fan's perspective - don't you want a game similar to one you'd enjoyed in the past? Final Fantasy has gone 15 games (not including spinoffs) of new characters, settings and worlds, using only the general principles of the past games as a source if continuity. And millions of fans keep asking for (and buying) sequels.
I don't begrudge a developer making an IP with its eye towards future installments/content, nor do I think it inherently taints their artistic slant. Longevity of a series is its own value to some gamers.
No... there is another...
You'd think the way I talk up CDPR, I'd be a huge Witcher fanboy, instead of someone who has barely stuck his toe in. I just like their approach to pretty much everything from a business perspective (including their approach with GOG) and feel it will only be a matter of time until they make a game I will thoroughly enjoy.
So far, the only game that REALLY got my attention was Cyberpunk 2077. Hope for more news on it after Witcher 3 comes out. Looks sick so far
If they are working on a new Star Wars title it will probably be in the new Abrams continuity, not the the EU.
If they are working on a new Star Wars title it will probably be in the new Abrams continuity, not the the EU.
If they are working on a new Star Wars title it will probably be in the new Abrams continuity, not the the EU.
I prefer it this way, they would be a lot more unrestricted in what eras they could explore and what they could do. There are now lots of blank slates.
I got it, they should do a sports RPG... maybe a Football one, something along the lines of Varsity Blues. a RPG about Sports now that is something new.
I got it, they should do a sports RPG... maybe a Football one, something along the lines of Varsity Blues. a RPG about Sports now that is something new.
Most modern sports games (Madden, FIFA, NBA2K, WWE, etc) are Action RPGs already. Games like Blood Bowl and FM are loosely Strategy RPGs.
It would be far from being a new thing.
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