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seems to be the first transgender character (except for Maevaris in comics) in DA games.

 

Jennifer Hale once tweeted that she was recording ground breaking character for DA:I and from what I've heard I'm pretty sure the character she voiced is Krem. And Krem sounds freaking badass. 

 

 

You can hear his voice in this video. Go to 0:55 to hear it.

[Bigdoser]

Soooo sten considered female warden a Aqun-Athlok? If you get his approval high. 

[jlb524]

Sounds like Hale for sure.

[JerZey CJ]

While it could mean that they are transgendered, you have to remember that Qunari society is rather restrictive, in that females "don't fight." They generally aren't considered warriors and Sten was even confused by a female Warden who was a warrior. "Aqun-Athlok" could just mean that Krem is a woman who fights, a generally "male" thing.

 

 

 

Edit: Side note, did they change the name of the qunari language from "Qunlat" to "Qunandar?"

[yodathehobbit]

Not going to lie, really wish we could tap that.

[RobRam10]

A Tevinter serving a Qunari! Ultimate heresy!

[Aimi]

Edit: Side note, did they change the name of the qunari language from "Qunlat" to "Qunandar?"

No. Qunandar is the name of the major city of Par Vollen.

[Mukora]

While it could mean that they are transgendered, you have to remember that Qunari society is rather restrictive, in that females "don't fight." They generally aren't considered warriors and Sten was even confused by a female Warden who was a warrior. "Aqun-Athlok" could just mean that Krem is a woman who fights, a generally "male" thing.

I believe Bull refers to Krem using male pronouns, though.

[Alanosborn1991]

So Krem is a girl who looks like a guy, Tevinterian that works with Qunari, and wears heavy armor while being a blood mage?

[Mukora]

So Krem is a girl who looks like a guy, Tevinterian that works with Qunari, and wears heavy armor while being a blood mage?

No. Krem is a man. And Bull was joking about the blood magic, I'm pretty sure.

[daveliam]

So Krem is a girl who looks like a guy, Tevinterian that works with Qunari, and wears heavy armor while being a blood mage?

I don't think he's actually a blood Mage. I took it as IB just giving him a hard time because he's Tevinter. I assume that he's a warrior given the armor.

[Hair Serious Business]

What about Serendipity from 'Blooming Rose' in DA2...she is transgender as well last time I checked xD

[Mukora]

What about Serendipity from 'Blooming Rose' in DA2...she is transgender as well last time I checked xD

I think Serendipity was meant to be a crossdresser, actually.

[daveliam]

What about Serendipity from 'Blooming Rose' in DA2...she is transgender as well last time I checked xD

Gaider later clarified that she was meant to be a drag queen but the implementation was poor and people incorrectly thought she was a transwoman.

[Senya]

I'm not sure she's transgender so much as a female outside of Qunari norms. The Win is so organized, they have categories for people who contradict it. I'm sure they'll leave it ambiguous, though.

[Hellion Rex]

So Krem is a girl who looks like a guy, Tevinterian that works with Qunari, and wears heavy armor while being a blood mage?

 

No. He's not a mage. Bull's group has a Dalish mage.

[Altima Darkspells]

What Senya says.

Although it could be Iron Bull using a Qunari term that means something else but still applies. Aqun-Athlok could, to Qunari, mean a male or female who performs and acts in a role that is typically for the opposite gender. For example, females can't be soldiers in the Qun. Males cannot be priests.

Krem could be trans, and Iron Bull just appropriated the term to apply to her, even though it doesn't technically refer to it.

Aqun-athlok could also be a new term in the Qun, given how Sten's brain did a minor implosion if the Warden was female. "You are a woman, and you fight. One of these things cannot be true."

[Nefla]

I hope we get to talk to him (maybe even befriend him!) and he's not just background fluff.

[Altima Darkspells]

The Win is so organized, they have categories for people who contradict it.

I'm not so sure this would be out of the ordinary. Remember, the Qunari are big on conversion, so it stands to reason that they would have categories for people who do convert, but who hold a job restricted by gender. I doubt a person would be assigned a random job and have to learn a whole new trade if, for example, an elven female were already a proficient hunter.

[RenAdaar]

I want his voice for my inquisitor damn it 

[Cylan Cooper]

I'm really happy to see a character like Krem in Inquisition. I really, really hope the reaction to him is positive when the general public and non-BSN folks catch wind of him. His popularity, at least from where I'm standing, will determine whether we'll ever get Mae as a companion in a future title. And who would say no to having Mae as a companion?

[Yuoaman]

From the handful of clips I've seen I'm really looking forward to meeting Krem in game, he seems really rad.

[Karach_Blade]

I'm overjoyed to see a transman portrayed with respect! This is awesome!  

[Grayvisions]

Soooo sten considered female warden a Aqun-Athlok? If you get his approval high. 

 

 

While it could mean that they are transgendered, you have to remember that Qunari society is rather restrictive, in that females "don't fight." They generally aren't considered warriors and Sten was even confused by a female Warden who was a warrior. "Aqun-Athlok" could just mean that Krem is a woman who fights, a generally "male" thing.

 

 

 

Edit: Side note, did they change the name of the qunari language from "Qunlat" to "Qunandar?"

 

 

Quoted you two cuz this is a good lead-in. Time for in-depth analysis!

 

So, I don't always approve of BWare's writing style, however I can tell that those who do the writing are very intelligent and well-versed in various theories and discourses. So, thought I'd offer some of my own insight into what I can tell so far, given my background in feminist/queer theory.

 

First off, 'queer' is not sexual orientation, it specifiates 'other', little more. This is important, because this thread is already beginning to question where sexuality fits into all of this. That could be part of it, but the realization that 'queer' doesn't necessitate 'gay' (in the real world, there are many straight men and women who identify as 'queer') informs the subject matter, being that transgenderism is often associated with 'queerness'. Moving on, recent trans/queer theories seeking to disassemble the meaning of sex/gender have begun using the terms 'male' and 'female' as roles, with biology being an indeterminate factor in said roles (and thus gender). Meaning, 'male' and 'female' are not biological, but rather identifiers for certain socially-defined traits, preconceptions and expectations. 

 

We see this in our world in a variety of ways I won't get into because it would risk devolving this thread into a pit of misogyny and homophobia, but more to the point, this seems to unfold in Thedas as well, particularly among the Qunari, as the posts I quoted suggests. If 'male' and 'female' are strictly defined roles - for instance, male = warrior, provider, etc., female = nurturer, caretaker, etc. - then it is indeed possible (perhaps even likely) that the Qun sees transgenderism as an active role one takes against those socially determined via biology.

 

It might sound like I'm throwing a wrench into the potential for a truly trans character in Dragon Age, but there's more to it than that, I think. This suggests the Qun has a more expansive, more universal outlook on gender roles and more specifically, the ability to exist beyond them; in a sense, 'gender' becomes a mere performance, a mask worn depending on the situation that warrants it. It's, in fact, incredibly liberating, and very exciting to see explored in a video game. Bravo, Bware.

 

This is why it's art!

[Chari]

I doubt this term has a positive meaning among the qunari knowing how restrictive they are about sex and gender roles