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[Bekkael]

IGN has some walkthroughs for DAI up already, and while reading through them....

 

In Hushed Whispers

 

Champions of the Just

 

Spoiler

It seems when picking either Champions of the Just (templar mission) or Hushed Whispers (mage mission) it locks you out of one companion or the other. Cole is acquired in the templar mission, while you get Dorian in the mage mission. This seems to imply that you cannot recruit both companions, but must choose between them. Unless there is an unknown future mission that would allow us to still get the companion that we were locked out of?

 

Thoughts? I haven't heard any mention at all of having to possibly miss out on a companion.

 

EDIT: Happily I misread and we will be able to still acquire both companions. Sorry for the false alarm!

[Drasanil]

IGN has some walkthroughs for DAI up already, and while reading through them....

 

In Hushed Whispers

 

Champions of the Just

 

Spoiler

It seems when picking either Champions of the Just (templar mission) or Hushed Whispers (mage mission) it locks you out of one companion or the other. Cole is acquired in the templar mission, while you get Dorian in the mage mission. This seems to imply that you cannot recruit both companions, but must choose between them. Unless there is an unknown future mission that would allow us to still get the companion that we were locked out of?

 

Thoughts? I haven't heard any mention at all of having to possibly miss out on a companion.

 

Relax dude.

 

Spoiler

The companion from the mission you don't pick shows up at Haven to warn you of Corypehus' attack in the next mission. Saw a stream of it where Cole just shows up out of nowhere before the attack on Haven warning you that the templars went to Cory after you sided with the mages. I assume the opposite happens with Dorian if you pick the templar mission.

[Kanedax]

Hmm...well, that's unfortunate.

[Alanosborn1991]

Spoiler

Wait so if you side with Templars you get red mages and if you side with Mages you get red templars?

[cardinalally]

You can still recruit them.  It is just a little later in.  This is kind of a big spoiler so don't read if you don't want to know about what happens to Haven 

 

Spoiler

when Haven is destroyed Cole comes to warn you.  Cullen makes some comment about if this is a reaction to you going to the mages.  Therefore I expect if you recruit the templars instead of the mages Dorian will come warn you instead.

[Kanedax]

Is this THE fiona?

 

Indeed it is.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So Bioware actually did make it so there can be no peace/compromise option but you must again choose either the Mages or the Templars.

[Bekkael]

Spoiler

I think the companion from the mission you don't pick shows up at Haven to warn you of Corypehus' attack in the next mission. Saw a stream of it where Cole just shows up out of nowhere before the attack on Haven warning you that the templars went to Cory after you sided with the mages.

 

Spoiler

No, you only get one or the other that shows up before Cory attacks, based on which of the 2 missions you chose just before. That mission where Cory comes is called In Your Heart Shall Burn, and this is a quote from IGN's walkthrough page about it:

 

"Once you have control of your character, you'll meet either Cole or Dorian depending on which mission you chose against before. You'll also fight the side chose against, either the templars or the mages. However, either way, the objectives don't change: you're under attack, and you must hold a trebuchet and capture another one. Follow your quest markers, then fight as you will. Area attacks are incredibly useful given how many enemies you'll be facing down."

 

EDIT: Okay, I see what you guys are saying. Whew! That's a relief as I hate to miss out on companions.

[RobRam10]

So Bioware actually did make it so there can be no peace/compromise option but you must again choose either the Mages or the Templars. That is very infuriating. 

Considering that DG thought that the Geth-Quarian peace was a cheat is not surprising.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Considering that DG thought that the Geth-Quarian peace was a cheat is not surprising.

They could have just made it hard to get. 

 

But no, let's go the Dragon Age 2 route. Because everybody loved the Dragon Age 2 route. 

[Drasanil]

Spoiler

No, you only get one or the other that shows up before Cory attacks, based on which of the 2 missions you chose just before. That mission where Cory comes is called In Your Heart Shall Burn, and this is a quote from IGN's walkthrough page about it:

 

"Once you have control of your character, you'll meet either Cole or Dorian depending on which mission you chose against before. You'll also fight the side chose against, either the templars or the mages. However, either way, the objectives don't change: you're under attack, and you must hold a trebuchet and capture another one. Follow your quest markers, then fight as you will. Area attacks are incredibly useful given how many enemies you'll be facing down."

 

Spoiler

No.

 

Cole shows up and warns you about the templar attack. I saw it live with my own two eyes. You get them both eventually.

[cardinalally]

Spoiler

No, you only get one or the other that shows up before Cory attacks, based on which of the 2 missions you chose just before. That mission where Cory comes is called In Your Heart Shall Burn, and this is a quote from IGN's walkthrough page about it:

 

"Once you have control of your character, you'll meet either Cole or Dorian depending on which mission you chose against before. You'll also fight the side chose against, either the templars or the mages. However, either way, the objectives don't change: you're under attack, and you must hold a trebuchet and capture another one. Follow your quest markers, then fight as you will. Area attacks are incredibly useful given how many enemies you'll be facing down."

 

EDIT: Okay, I see what you guys are saying. Whew! That's a relief as I hate to miss out on companions.

 

Yeah, which one you get first depends on who you choose to support.  Mages or Templars.  But you can still recruit both 

[EdwinLi]

Interesting since these quest appears to be alternative ways to handle this dungeon so you don't have to send Leliana into the place.

 

Not only that but you also gain allies.

[Cylan Cooper]

They could have just made it hard to get. 

 

But no, let's go the Dragon Age 2 route. Because everybody loved the Dragon Age 2 route. 

Under normal circumstances, I'd be all for the Dragon Age 2 route. But Inquisition takes place during what amounts up to the apocalypse. You'd think the mages and templars could somehow be persuaded to put aside their differences for a few months.

[revan017]

OP, I was totally afraid as well when reading through the IGN wiki and had to clarify all around. But yeah, key word is against:

 

Spoiler

you'll meet either Cole or Dorian depending on which mission you chose against before.

[LadyLaLa]

To be honest, I can see why it's one or the other. Trying to fix the world, you don't really have time to wait for them to work out their differences.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

To be honest, I can see why it's one or the other. Trying to fix the world, you don't really have time to wait for them to work out their differences.

Except they were about to at the Conclave that went boom. Or at least both sides were willing to talk with each other. 

[LadyLaLa]

Except they were about to at the Conclave that went boom. Or at least both sides were willing to talk with each other. 

And then the sky broke. I think that's what'll take precedent over "who is right". A conclave like that could take weeks, it wasn't about to be resolved overnight

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And then the sky broke. I think that's what'll take precedent over "who is right". A conclave like that could take weeks, it wasn't about to be resolved overnight

Exactly, then the sky broke. Something that threatens both of them. But no, they don't do anything about the thing that killed their fellows but instead attack each other. 

 

Plus way to send a "Diplomacy is a fruitless endeavor. War is better." message. 

[Zatche]

They could have just made it hard to get.

But no, let's go the Dragon Age 2 route. Because everybody loved the Dragon Age 2 route.

In this regard, I do prefer the DA2 route. I prefer tougher choices, and i dont think "hard to get" maintains the difficulty of the choice all that well. And the idea that extremists can make compromise unobtainable struck a chord with me with how it relates to the real world.

[spnccarman]

Interesting since these quest appears to be alternative ways to handle this dungeon so you don't have to send Leliana into the place.

 

Not only that but you also gain allies.

sending her in isn't that big of a deal as what happens to her isn't permanent 

[LadyLaLa]

Exactly, then the sky broke. Something that threatens both of them. But no, they don't do anything about the thing that killed their fellows but instead attack each other. 

 

Plus way to send a "Diplomacy is a fruitless endeavor. War is better." message. 

There are idiots on both sides. Can you truly assure the safety of all with idiots that may kill each other if funny looks are exchanged? No? So tell one side to come with you (not saying you need to wipe out the other side) and have them help you. The other can sit out the fighting. You can go back to peace talks after the disaster has passed

[RealityMachina]

To be honest, I can see why it's one or the other. Trying to fix the world, you don't really have time to wait for them to work out their differences.

Watching the prologue again...

 

 

 

 

 

I think Cassandra has the best explanation for this: "While some believe you were chosen, many others still think you are guilty". I wouldn't be surprised if the "The Inquisiton is holding the dastard responsible for the Breach!" camps on either side get enough support to decide things depending on which side you try recruiting first.

 

In fact, Leilana also mentions how about they don't have a leader, numbers, lack of Chantry support, etc, so even just getting either side to actually consider what you're offering is probably going be a challenge in of itself.

Modifié par RealityMachina, 16 novembre 2014 - 06:09 .

[Chanda]

I was under the impression that

 

Spoiler

You get Cole when he comes to warn you about the Templar/Mage attack against Haven, no matter which side you chose. You get Dorian when you send Leliana to Redcliffe, to face down Alexius. They're both part of the main questline, it's just that they happen at different times.