Are the templar armies bigger then the mage armies?
#51
Posté 16 novembre 2014 - 10:36
If you look at Ferelden's Circle in DA:O, the templar-mage ratio seemed at least 1:1, if not slightly in favor of the mages. Templars are elite knights who require years of training and carry high grade equipment. Considering that most mages are pretty weak and Greagoire probably could have annuled the Circle with only two dozen men, they wouldn't need more men.
I always assumed the vast majority of the forces battling the rebels were common soldiers, militia and mercs with Templars forming the core.
#52
Posté 16 novembre 2014 - 10:42
I'm pretty sure that the Templars are far smaller in number than most people think.
If you look at Ferelden's Circle in DA:O
That was your first mistake; That's story segregation meeting game play.
While yes Templars aren't as common as your normal soldier; that doesn't mean that aren't a veritable army of them.
What you saw in Kinloch Hold in DAO are even if that is all the Templars stationed there, but a finger of their force in the lands of Fereldan, Note Gregoir sent word to the capital to receive reinforcements from the Templar garrison there of which we have no indicator of number.
And then we have the Kirkwall circle which is the largest concentration of them outside of Orlais and it was reputedly home to several thousand templars.
Point being though; just because they don't appear on screen doesn't mean they don't exist in the world.
Basically i look at this way; they have to ward over several thousand mages across the continent, in multiple circles.
They couldn't do this without their number at least matching the mages.
#53
Posté 16 novembre 2014 - 11:18
That was your first mistake; That's story segregation meeting game play.
While yes Templars aren't as common as your normal soldier; that doesn't mean that aren't a veritable army of them.
What you saw in Kinloch Hold in DAO are even if that is all the Templars stationed there, but a finger of their force in the lands of Fereldan, Note Gregoir sent word to the capital to receive reinforcements from the Templar garrison there of which we have no indicator of number.
And then we have the Kirkwall circle which is the largest concentration of them outside of Orlais and it was reputedly home to several thousand templars.
Point being though; just because they don't appear on screen doesn't mean they don't exist in the world.
Basically i look at this way; they have to ward over several thousand mages across the continent, in multiple circles.
They couldn't do this without their number at least matching the mages.
Kirkwall is special as templars there have political influence they are more or less the rulers of the city and who does not wanna be part of the ruling class. You get more benefits being a templar there.
#54
Posté 17 novembre 2014 - 05:15
How much Lyrium do you think were stored across the south? I wonder, i mean how much Lyrium does a circle go through for rituals and spell casting?
All of the Lyrium stored at the circles, fell into Templar hands, Then note the vast majority of the Order left to follow Lambert to war and it becomes quite evident that the "finite" source is entirely within their hands.
Honestly i'd expect mention of a Lyrium shortage if it existed, and yet there has been nothing even hinted at indicating such, pre release or no.
After all you don't loot a peasant's shack for lyrium, you do that for food.
Its hard to do that with a force like the Templars that have numeric superiority and the capability to engage, if the Hinterlands are any indicator despite it being "two" years, the forces are still engaging each other in regular sorties.
So attrition obviously isn't working.
You don't hear any rumours of a shortage because the Chantry still has good relations with the dwarves, yah know, the actual source of the 'endless' lyrium? And there's no reason to expect that to change so there literally was no reason to be talking of a shortage before the war. ![]()
And it would be impossible to avoid conflict with the templars completely, sorties are exactly what the mages should want. What they would want to avoid are pitched battles like the one at the Andoral's Reach. THAT is where the war should have been decided, if the mages had a single brain to divide between them they would've scattered after that and if the templars had a single brain they would never have allowed that to happen.
#55
Posté 17 novembre 2014 - 05:26
Wait they're monks
Then OP you are right. But the secular armies of the kingdoms will certainly factor into the war
#56
Posté 17 novembre 2014 - 06:08
#57
Posté 17 novembre 2014 - 06:30
I believe that Templars would greatly outnumber Mages, based on the sole fact that any mundane can be trained and fed Lyrium.





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