I hope the revelation we got can be spread to the other Dalish Elves. They need to no longer worship whatever the Elven Pantheon actually are. They sound more like Old Gods than actual deities and supported terrible things.
the two are not mutually exclusive, massively powerful and magical beings are wont to be arses on occasion
*looks at the entirety of greco-roman mythology*
Phew! Good to know, because I have not mentioned specific group of elves. That being said, I have not heard about band of elves called just 'elves'(ah, sorry, the ancient elves were called this way and they were levels above Dalish ruthlessness). Following your reasoning, is this thread about an unknown branch of elves(or ancient elves)?
It is a support thread, shaming them is the very nature of derailing it. Please, refrain from snarky comments in the future.
Shaming Dalish does not mean shaming elves. So we can come in here and discuss about how a select group of people look down on and berate others, including their own race, all we want. Especially when it's detrimental to most of the actual elven population. That was the point.
maybe the name should be changed to "Elf Discussion Thread"
the two are not mutually exclusive, massively powerful and magical beings are wont to be arses on occasion
*looks at the entirety of greco-roman mythology*
Fair enough. Though I would argue most of those deities weren't worth worshipping either.
And there were a few deities in the greco-roman mythology that had godly qualities to them, like Athena/Minerva.
Fair enough. Though I would argue most of those deities weren't worth worshipping either.
And there were a few deities in the greco-roman mythology that had godly qualities to them, like Athena/Minerva.
Well worthy of worship and are worshiped are two separate things. Zeus might be an incestuous, lust filled, petty, juvenile on occasion, drunken, lout, but he can also call down the wrath of the heavens on you, castrate you, and fling you into the depths of Tartarus, then probably turn into a swan and bang someone.
Depends on what you mean by "godly" qualities. There were all immortal and vastly more powerful than mortals, but they were also very human in that they were like normal people.
Considering it is a 'support' thread I see no reason for people who wish to insult elves to come here.
Supporting the eradication of the Dalish does not mean I'm insulting elves, not anymore than wishing the destruction of the Carta means you're insulting dwarves or the destruction of the Qun means you're insulting the Qunari.
I'm fully supportive of elves who wish cooperation with humanity and I'd consider Briala if I knew what the hell she wishes to accomplish (which the game never goes into any detail). I've always viewed Dalish as nothing but glorified bandits with a victim complex and a lot of the content in Dragon Age: Inquisition supports that assessment.
It's schadenfreude, that's all.
Shaming Dalish does not mean shaming elves. So we can come in here and discuss about how a select group of people look down on and berate others, including their own race, all we want. Especially when it's detrimental to most of the actual elven population. That was the point.
It is 'Elf Support Thread' so no, you can not. You either shame elves or you do not. I agree with one thing: it is detrimental for elves to learn about their past so that they can aspire to more, rise above lesser races and rule supreme like the elves of old. "New cargo has arrived, strong and capable tevinter slaves. Auction starts at(...)" sounds delicious. I would love to take a glimpse inside the walls and roots of an old Arlathan.
maybe the name should be changed to "Elf Discussion Thread"
Indeed, it should be renamed for the sake of cohesion.
Supporting the eradication of the Dalish does not mean I'm insulting elves, not anymore than wishing the destruction of the Carta means you're insulting dwarves or the destruction of the Qun means you're insulting the Qunari.
I'm fully supportive of elves who wish cooperation with humanity and I'd consider Briala if I knew what the hell she wishes to accomplish (which the game never goes into any detail). I've always viewed Dalish as nothing but glorified bandits with a victim complex and a lot of the content in Dragon Age: Inquisition supports that assessment.
It's schadenfreude, that's all.
It does. Dalish Elves are not a crime syndicate but clans of free elves. The only place I see for humanity is a damp, dark hole in the ground where their skin can slowly come off by the weight of shackles.
It does. Dalish Elves are not a crime syndicate but clans of free elves.
Repeating elven rhetoric won't suddenly make me sympathetic to the Dalish. Dalish aren't a cohesive group and don't represent all elves.
Some attack and kill humans on sight, others don't. Some banish the mages from their clans because they can't take care of them so they'd rather leave them for dead, others don't. Some elves love their misguided belief on what constitutes as "ancient elven history", others don't.
The only thing that Dalish share is a xenophobic culture that propagates isolation and fearing the "other", using their victim complex to avoid all blame. When people defended this xenophobic culture for the past few years, I'd argue but it was always speculation on both sides. Now that we're aware that Dalish are wrong and clinging to beliefs they don't even understand, I'd see no reason why we shouldn't stamp them out.
The ancient elves in the temple are offended that you'd associate yourself with them.
You don't need to be living in tents and pretending you're cool by using hipster slave tattoos to view that elves have it tough, you can simply be living in human society and trying to incorporate yourself and better the society that you hate so much. Staying away isn't helping anybody, killing people isn't helping anybody and seeing humanity as a literal plague isn't helping anybody.
The only place I see for humanity is a damp, dark hole in the ground where their skin can slowly come off by the weight of shackles.
And this is why I want to wipe out the Dalish. The world would be a much better place for everyone involved, including elves. The City Elves are the future of the elves, not the Dalish.
It is 'Elf Support Thread' so no, you can not. You either shame elves or you do not. I agree with one thing: it is detrimental for elves to learn about their past so that they can aspire to more, rise above lesser races and rule supreme like the elves of old. "New cargo has arrived, strong and capable tevinter slaves. Auction starts at(...)" sounds delicious. I would love to take a glimpse inside the walls and roots of an old Arlathan.
Lulz. It does not shame elves. It shame people who are elves. It makes the vast majority of elves look much better, so yeah I can. The propaganda you're spouting is amusing, considering the elves themselves destroyed nearly everything they held dear, including their own gods. The actual OP is in support of topics that involves elves and bettering them, or at least that's what I implied from the last six of these. It says nothing about not criticising them or accepting all of their flaws. It definitely doesn't say, "You must support every single thing about this outside group. Any type of negative comments are derailing."
Repeating elven rhetoric won't suddenly make me sympathetic to the Dalish. Dalish aren't a cohesive group and don't represent all elves.
Some attack and kill humans on sight, others don't. Some banish the mages from their clans because they can't take care of them so they'd rather leave them for dead, others don't. Some elves love their misguided belief on what constitutes as "ancient elven history", others don't.
The only thing that Dalish share is a xenophobic culture that propagates isolation and fearing the "other", using their victim complex to avoid all blame. When people defended this xenophobic culture for the past few years, I'd argue but it was always speculation on both sides. Now that we're aware that Dalish are wrong and clinging to beliefs they don't even understand, I'd see no reason why we shouldn't stamp them out.
The ancient elves in the temple are offended that you'd associate yourself with them.
You don't need to be living in tents and pretending you're cool by using hipster slave tattoos to view that elves have it tough, you can simply be living in human society and trying to incorporate yourself and better the society that you hate so much. Staying away isn't helping anybody, killing people isn't helping anybody and seeing humanity as a literal plague isn't helping anybody.
And this is why I want to wipe out the Dalish. The world would be a much better place for everyone involved, including elves. The City Elves are the future of the elves, not the Dalish.
Lulz. It does not shame elves. It shame people who are elves. It makes the vast majority of elves look much better, so yeah I can. The propaganda you're spouting is amusing, considering the elves themselves destroyed nearly everything they held dear, including their own gods. The actual OP is in support of topics that involves elves and bettering them, or at least that's what I implied from the last six of these. It says nothing about not criticising them or accepting all of their flaws. It definitely doesn't say, "You must support every single thing about this outside group. Any type of negative comments are derailing."
Excuse me, I must refrain from the further discourse. I do not wish to engage in shaming of the elves in the thread with a clear name, nor I posses a sufficient fantast's flair to navigate through murky waters of naivete.
Elves of old valued power and an Inquisitor is exactly this, power incarnate. While slightly misguided with the traditions, my elf represents the glory of his people.
May elves rule from man-shaped towers. Glory to Elvhenan!
*Snorts*
Honestly sometimes this just gets a little sad.
Yet the people turned their back on Prometheus who created them and wanted nothing but to see them live as gods. No rules, no suffering, no sacrifices. Just the life he had given to them. He was worthy of worship yet he wasn't worshiped.Well worthy of worship and are worshiped are two separate things. Zeus might be an incestuous, lust filled, petty, juvenile on occasion, drunken, lout, but he can also call down the wrath of the heavens on you, castrate you, and fling you into the depths of Tartarus, then probably turn into a swan and bang someone.
Depends on what you mean by "godly" qualities. There were all immortal and vastly more powerful than mortals, but they were also very human in that they were like normal people.
Yet the people turned their back on Prometheus who created them and wanted nothing but to see them live as gods. No rules, no suffering, no sacrifices. Just the life he had given to them. He was worthy of worship yet he wasn't worshiped.
Prometheus didn't create man, he gave him shape, Epimethius and Athena gave man life
also worshiping someone strapped to a mountain side while having their liver devoured daily is less exciting than the god of the sky
Prometheus didn't create man, he gave him shape, Epimethius and Athena gave man life
also worshiping someone strapped to a mountain side while having their liver devoured daily is less exciting than the god of the sky
a Greek god acting selfish and petty? Mind = blown
May elves rule from man-shaped towers. Glory to Elvhenan!
No race that refuses to wear shoes deserves such praise.
a Greek god acting selfish and petty? Mind = blown
Heh Lulu would probably enjoy the ancient germanic pantheon then 
I support elves
who convert to the Qun.
I support elves
who convert to the Qun.
Eww you support Tallis?
*shudders*
I hope the revelation we got can be spread to the other Dalish Elves. They need to no longer worship whatever the Elven Pantheon actually are. They sound more like Old Gods than actual deities and supported terrible things.
Well, that's a way of putting it. Another is that Inquisition suggests that
That would be more than enough for a lot of people to worship them. As Steelcan has mentioned, it's not as if real-life pantheons were any better in that regard. And the Greek gods look merciful compared to others, like the Mesopotamian gods. In their stories, the great flood was created by Enlil to wipe out humanity because they were annoying and noisy. Just like that.
In many ancient mythologies, gods are not all-good and merciful. They're powerful. They can be a source of help if satisfied or a source of problems if not properly appeased. Or if they felt like it. In that regard, the Old Gods and the Elven Gods look similar to that.
Supporting the eradication of the Dalish does not mean I'm insulting elves, not anymore than wishing the destruction of the Carta means you're insulting dwarves or the destruction of the Qun means you're insulting the Qunari.
I'm fully supportive of elves who wish cooperation with humanity and I'd consider Briala if I knew what the hell she wishes to accomplish (which the game never goes into any detail). I've always viewed Dalish as nothing but glorified bandits with a victim complex and a lot of the content in Dragon Age: Inquisition supports that assessment.
It's schadenfreude, that's all.
Oh, please, at least save the Lavellan. So far, they seem the most open-minded Dalish in Thedas... unless there's some dark secret I haven't found yet.
Solas is not exactly the most reliable source of information on Elves.
Food for thought.
I thought the elf stuff in DAI was interesting. I'm an elf fan largely and I liked it, especially the reveals.
Eww you support Tallis?
*shudders*
Felicia day's youtube videos made me a fan.
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