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[Efvie]

I suppose this is more cathartic than anything, trudging through the Keep having brought to mind the fact that I have been thus far been able to ignore with suitable mods and headcanon.

 

Spoiler

Especially keenly felt since it appears that the god-child will have at least an appearance, in addition to Morrigan’s role.

 

Is there another significant outcome choice that is outright denied—in any recent BioWare title—based on the player character’s gender? One would think, at least, that being parent to a god is a somewhat important thing. (DAI reality may be different since it’s quite possible the god-child was never born. But it feels like it could be an important thing in the larger world.)

 

…

 

In the ideal game, Morrigan would have been been available for a female Warden to romance. And, ignoring the fact that the conception is in large part magic and could have been written to transfer some of the Warden’s “essence” into the child, biological parentage is hardly necessary. The child could be Alistair or Loghain’s—or truly no-one’s, being a god—and the Warden and Morrigan still its mothers.

 

In fact, even without a romance the female Warden could have seen it her duty or privilege to be a guardian to the child; Morrigan could have accepted her friend’s (or unrequited lover’s) plea to join her and the child through the Eluvian.

 

Now, with what is looking like severe unmoddability of DAI—and likely impossibility of having or adding gender-neutral references to the Warden—I am ever more saddened by this exclusion. As it is, I’m considering the unsatisfying course of importing a ‘male’ Warden and trying to ignore the references to her sex in all DAI dialogue…

[LOLandStuff]

So, your character is an obsessive stalker who can't get over the fact that Morrigan isn't into girl, and would use the excuse of babysitting her kid just to be close to her?

 

That's...disturbing.

[Gothfather]

WTF?!?! Another the keep did not give me option that i could mod into Origins thread?

 

Mods =/= offical content

 

YOU = Unreasonable to expect it so.

 

On what planet are you living on? You are not the most important person in the whole wide world despite what your mother told you. SHE LIED TO YOU.

 

There are thousands of mods for DA:O are you seriously telling me Bioware should have made the keep to include all the options that mods open up for players?

 

This is almost as bad as the wah wah wah Iron bull hit on me Wah wah wah thread.

[Br3admax]

Ha. 

[Efvie]

WTF?!?! Another the keep did not give me option that i could mod into Origins thread?

 

Mods =/= offical content

 

YOU = Unreasonable to expect it so.

 

 

No, it’s (another?) “DA:O had a choice that was unnecessarily denied to female Wardens and that could mean that there is unnecessarily gender-locked important content in DAI which sucks” thread. Could they have fixed it in the Keep? Sure, they could have retconned all romances available for both genders.

 

Besides, my mother told me I was a witch. What’s your excuse?

[herkles]

mods are not supported in the keep. 

[Kingthlayer]

No, it’s (another?) “DA:O had a choice that was unnecessarily denied to female Wardens and that could mean that there is unnecessarily gender-locked important content in DAI which sucks” thread. Could they have fixed it in the Keep? Sure, they could have retconned all romances available for both genders.

 

Besides, my mother told me I was a witch. What’s your excuse?

 

Two women can't have a kid together it doesn't work that way.  And your lolmagic is a lame reason.

[puppyofwar]

It's almost as laughable as the one claims modders "fix" Bioware's "oversight" by allowing non-Human Noble wardens to became the queen and demand adding that option into the DA keep.

 

Bioware are not going to support mods and your headcanons. 

[Gothfather]

No, it’s (another?) “DA:O had a choice that was unnecessarily denied to female Wardens and that could mean that there is unnecessarily gender-locked important content in DAI which sucks” thread. Could they have fixed it in the Keep? Sure, they could have retconned all romances available for both genders.

 

Besides, my mother told me I was a witch. What’s your excuse?

 

Who the hell are you that Bioware should cater to your individual desires? Not everyone you fancy in the world fancies you. Yes yes i know you think they do but they are not being coy, they honestly don't fancy you.

 

I hate to break it to you but sexual relations ARE gender locked. Its called sexual orientation and if you have a crush on someone you are gender locked if their sexual orientation is such that they don't find your gender attractive. This is very basic stuff how are you playing a mature title and not understanding orientation?

 

My excuse is I have a pathalogical need to put the smack down on the absurd.

[LOLandStuff]

DA:O didn't have that choice to begin with. So they can't deny anything.

 

You obsessing over a character who is straight by googling mods on the internet is not a choice.

 

That's like going as a straight girl to a gay bar and complaining you got rejected by the hot guy.

[Zatche]

I would've enjoyed romancing Sera as a dude. Bioware decided to make her gay rather than bi, which they have every right to do. I don't feel so entitled that I expect Bioware to retcon a significant part of her identity in order to suit my preferences. Oh well. I'll just romance her as a girl.

[puppyofwar]

DA:O didn't have that choice to begin with. So they can't deny anything.

 

You obsessing over a character who is straight by googling mods on the internet is not a choice.

 

That's like going as a straight girl to a gay bar and complaining you got rejected by the hot guy.

Never underestimate people's entitlement and idiocy, I've seen it happen before by my own eyes.

[KC_Prototype]

Quite complaining about modded content, it's community based, not developer based. Morrigan is canon straight so stop. 

[Br3admax]

My excuse is I have a pathalogical need to put the smack down on the absurd.

I need to use this somewhere. 

[Augustei]

Is OP serious or is this a joke? Surely this is a troll thread?

[Dark Helmet]

Is OP serious or is this a joke? Surely this is a troll thread?

 

If only.

[Gothfather]

I need to use this somewhere. 

 

Its "open source" so go for it.

[Augustei]

If only.

If only exterminatus were real so we could declare it on this thread?

[RobRam10]

 ignore with suitable mods and headcanon.

Your first mistake.

[Maiafay]

My Warden is fine with being "god mom".

 

No pun intended.

[Efvie]

Who the hell are you that Bioware should cater to your individual desires? Not everyone you fancy in the world fancies you. Yes yes i know you think they do but they are not being coy, they honestly don't fancy you.

 

I hate to break it to you but sexual relations ARE gender locked. Its called sexual orientation and if you have a crush on someone you are gender locked if their sexual orientation is such that they don't find your gender attractive. This is very basic stuff how are you playing a mature title and not understanding orientation?

 

My excuse is I have a pathalogical need to put the smack down on the absurd.

 

It is pathological, indeed. Perhaps you would consider giving the courtesy of reading past your preconception? I’ll note that I did not, in fact, demand changes.

 

I understand orientation perfectly well, thank you. The thing that differentiates games from non-interactive entertainment such as books or games is that they are malleable and customizable. That is, Morrigan could be straight in one playthrough, lesbian in another (bisexual characters are a separate matter). In a healthy society, orientation is but one facet of a person.

 

There are cases in which sexuality or other similar issues would be more important, and that’s when it’s integral to the character’s experience and their place in the world, where it’s shaped their thinking: when they’re persecuted or discriminated based on it, for example. (The elves are a good example in the DA world.)

 

Not a single reply thus far has addressed my actual lament (unnecessary exclusivity). Not that that’s surprising in the least.

[Otter-under-the-mountain]

So Bioware wrote a story in which two women cannot have a child, and you for some reason felt the need to supplement this with mods. And now that that story may have an impact on another, they're using the story that they actually wrote rather than acknowledge the fact that you played with a mod. And you see this as somehow being an oversight.

 

I think you win the pointless complaint medal for today.

[Catche Jagger]

Morrigan is only interested in guys. End of story. But don't worry, Bioware can't control your F!Warden/Morrigan thoughts (yet).

[frylock23]

There are choices to be made and consequences for each of them. In this case, if you play as a female, you don't get to factor prominently into the OGB storyline. If that's what you want a role in, then you play as a male Warden. That's how the story is written. The writers can't write a story that will perfectly satisfy every player in every way. They have to make choices about how the story will go. If they leave open too many options, the story would be so open-ended that it might as well not exist.

[Maiafay]

This is what fanfic is for. I understand the desire to lose one's self in a fantasy world and want everything to cater to your character, but that's not the way it's set up. Too many people complained about the bisexualty of all the characters in DA2. Being unrealistic was a game breaker for them. You can't please everyone.

 

Mods aren't canon. Never will be. I fail to see how complaining about the world state in DAI is going to resolve anything. It's just you, griping about something you cannot change. Bioware will never cater to one fan, or even ten. I think they are awesome for even allowing you to inport your choices via the Keep. They could have blew off every choice you made in the first two games. It's their right. They are the devs. You're playing in THEIR sandbox.