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Hey.

 

So, I'm gonna play through the game as an evil inquisitor. By evil I mean being selfish and powerhungry, with a strong sense of bloodlust. Basically, my character enjoys random violence and power. I've been looking at compatible companions for this kind of playstyle, and none of them really seem that evil.

 

I've already decided I'll tell Sera to bugger off when I meet her, I don't want her in my Inquisition.

 

Cassandra does seem to have anger managment issues, but I don't see her as evil by any means. Maybe ruthless?

 

Iron Bull is a mercenary, but I don't know much about his personality. Still, he has potential.

 

Blackwall seems pretty neutral; if he is a true warden he'll probably understand that, in order for the inquisition to succeed, some "disgusting" things must be done.

 

Solas seems like a good-hearted person. Still, he seems to like demons, correct? 

 

Vivienne seems like a total badass, and most likely my inquisitor will like her.

 

Varric seems to be a bit more mature compared to DA2, but he seems to be the same otherwise.

 

Cole I have no idea about. I haven't researched him much since I really dislike his appearance in the game.

 

Dorian, being a Tevinter mage, should not have a problem with blood magic and such, right? He might be a good choice.

 

Can someone more informed help me? Thanks in advance! :)

 



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For Blackwall they've said that he believes that the Wardens should be heroes, not that they act for the greater good, etc.

 

My guess for companions that won't mind you being evil so much would be Dorian and Iron Bull, but it's not that simple. Characters could have 'evil' viewpoints about some things but nice in others.



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I don't think any of them were written as evil...I can see several problems for me though.

 

Cole is not human (Asunder pretty much made me wary of him)

Vivienne has her own agenda, you are just helping her along the way.

If you let Varric keep the red lyrium shard from DA2, there may be trouble ahead.



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Ironically, Sera might be your best bet, cause to me she sounds like a more chaotic anarchist then anything else and putting the bad people you met to the sword might suit her just fine. Her or cole, and possibly Iron bull. Vivienne is the most conductive to seeking to rise the ranks of power, but she might not appreciate someone who does things just because.

 

Hard to tell until we can see the actual nuance of the characters come forth. Whatever the case, you could purposely play to ****** off your companions.



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This is a Bioware game -- it seems unlikely that any of them are actually "evil." Morally ambiguous, sure, but evil? Doubtful.

 

Still, to answer your question:

 

  • Sera is very chaotic good, a kind of vigilante, I guess? She wants people to stay humble, care about the "little people." If the Inquisitor is running around power-hungry and killing everyone, she'll hate you. Quite vocally, I imagine.
  • Cassandra is actually very good-hearted, but I think she understands how to make tough decisions. She's quite hard around the edges, but a secret softie inside. I presume that depending on your exact choices she may or may not approve -- she wouldn't approve of excessive violence and cruelty, but she would probably understand doing something "bad" for the greater good. (I'm guessing, anyway).
  • Iron Bull definitely isn't evil -- I think he's just a casual mercenary. I think it'd be hard to ruffle his feathers, but again, I don't know.
  • Blackwall is actually quite idealistic -- he cares about honor. He thinks the Grey Wardens should be heroes, and willing to sacrifice themselves.. but I don't think he'd be comfortable sacrificing others in the same way.
  • Solas cares a lot about mages and elves and spirits. Being kind to the underdog. But he also doesn't believe in good and evil -- he doesn't think anything is completely black or white. So, depending... who knows.
  • Vivienne likes power, too. I think as long as the Inquisitor's power does not dampen her own, that should be fine. 
  • Varric is kind and cares about doing the right thing, big time. He's more mature, a little more weary, but he's still Varric. Selfish and power hungry and bloodlust aren't really his things at all.
  • Cole wants to do good. It's all he wants. He will not like that. (But then again, what he thinks is 'good' may not be what is actually good).
  • Dorian's a Tevinter mage, sure -- but he's an outcast, a rebel, the Redeemer. He wants to rid Tevinter of its corruption. He's idealistic -- so acting like the Tevinter mages he's trying to change isn't probably going to be something he'll admire. (He is, however, fond of honesty. Not trying to pretend you're something you're not. So. Interesting.)

Hope that helps.


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Commander Michael

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Thanks alot for all the answers! This helped me bigtime!



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Give Red Lyrium to Varric in your keep save if you want evil companion. Thats all I'm saying without spoiling too much for you.



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Ironically, Sera might be your best bet, cause to me she sounds like a more chaotic anarchist then anything else and putting the bad people you met to the sword might suit her just fine. Her or cole, and possibly Iron bull. Vivienne is the most conductive to seeking to rise the ranks of power, but she might not appreciate someone who does things just because.

 

Hard to tell until we can see the actual nuance of the characters come forth. Whatever the case, you could purposely play to ****** off your companions.

 

Sera sounds Chaotic Good to me (to use D&D parlance). That still may mean she makes a mess, but I doubt anything "evil". We'll see.

 

I mean, for reference, even Spider-Man is Chaotic Good. And he's harmless.

 

Except for that time he got his girlfriend killed. :|



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Give Red Lyrium to Varric in your keep save if you want evil companion. Thats all I'm saying without spoiling too much for you.

 

Details please? I don't mind spoilage :)



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Give Red Lyrium to Varric in your keep save if you want evil companion. Thats all I'm saying without spoiling too much for you.


Breaks my heart just thinking about it.

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well i don't know about evil but my screw the south party will consist of:

 

Dorian Tevinter mage

Cole Murder knife!

Iron bull Qunari 



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This is not BG, it is bioware and I know of none  of the companions that would qualify as evil.

Self serving and short sighted, yes, but not evil.


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Cass has a temper, but she isn't evil by any means, she's quite lawful and moral. Blackwall is all about protecting and defending, I don't think he'll mesh well with evil decisions unless there's something about him we don't know yet that would change that. We know for sure Varric doesn't like unnecessary violence and cruelty and I doubt that has changed much despite him being a bit more bitter this time around. Dorian is here because he wants to change his homeland for the better, he may not mind the darker magics but I don't think that has anything to do with his personality. I'd say your best chances would be, err... Iron Bull, Vivienne? I don't think either are evil, but Bull seems pretty neutral on a lot of matters and Vivienne has been implied to be one who does whatever she has to do to get the job done. 

 

Member of the Inquisition are probably generally going to be 'good guys', or at the very least neutral, considering it's all about saving the world. Unless some characters have ulterior motives, which I'm sure some do, but I'd still guess it will be hard to have many loyal friends on a playthrough where you're an evil person. But hey, who needs friends? XD



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So if we play an evil Inquisitor, and almost everybody is a good charcater, then by the time when we finish the game, there will be no companions left at our side becuase everybody will leave us, cause they don't like our evil choices?



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So if we play an evil Inquisitor, and almost everybody is a good charcater, then by the time when we finish the game, there will be no companions left at our side becuase everybody will leave us, cause they don't like our evil choices?

One of them won't leave no matter how much you upset them. Probably Cassandra or Solas.



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well i don't know about evil but my screw the south party will consist of:

 

Dorian Tevinter mage

Cole Murder knife!

Iron bull Qunari 

Some slight slight spoiler:

Spoiler


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Your character sounds more psychopathic and less evil really. Of the companions Vivienne strikes me as the most duplicitous but none of them really seem like they'd be best buds with your Inquisitor. He seems too... obvious.



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So if we play an evil Inquisitor, and almost everybody is a good charcater, then by the time when we finish the game, there will be no companions left at our side becuase everybody will leave us, cause they don't like our evil choices?

I actually really like this idea. Kinda annoyed me in Origins how the only way to have people turn on your was the focus all attention on purposely being a dick to them. I was hoping for a ME:2 kind of "people WILL die" scenario, but if it comes in the form of a steady progression on disagreements, then i'm cool with that.



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You know what I always find funny - all it takes for people to think someone is "good" is for them to be nice to the player. 

 

Cole, Iron Bull, Sera are most certainly not 'good' people.  Murderers, scoundrels, opportunists.

 

Dorian, Vivienne and Cassandra are likely not 'good' people.  Elitists, hedonists and supporters of regimes.

 

Varric, Solas and Blackwall perhaps have the closest chance of being good people given their slightly more self-sacrificing natures.

 

Is it that people want to consider themselves good, so they consider highly morally questionable people good I wonder.



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I don't think any of them were written as evil...I can see several problems for me though.

 

Cole is not human (Asunder pretty much made me wary of him)

Vivienne has her own agenda, you are just helping her along the way.

If you let Varric keep the red lyrium shard from DA2, there may be trouble ahead.

 

Actually if you want to have an "evil" party, you should select the option to have Varric keep the red idol shard in DA2, then import that world state for Inquisition. Don't read spoilers about why, just do it!



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Cole, Iron Bull, Sera are most certainly not 'good' people.  Murderers, scoundrels, opportunists.

 

 

You are wrong here. Your personal percieving is misguiding others.

Cole scoundrel and opportunist? Cole is first person who leaves evil party and will approve any very good action you take to preserve life and save the innocent.

Cole was killer spirit, but now other things awaken in him, and they are manifestation of spirit which with your good actions transforms into good spirit.

If you will kill innocents he will try to kill you. 

He is more like Sten, who did bad things, then realized something and trying to compensate for that and dedicates himself to this 

He is, actually, rogue DA:I Sten, with some unique viewpoints, alot of doubts mixed with strong determination in certain things at same time.



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@Blackstork: I don't consider Sten a good person either.

 

Good and Evil are not titles I give to very many people - and I do believe in these monikers as indicators for small groups of individuals.

 

Most people are "just people" - a mixture of good and bad deeds, mostly self-serving, ignorant, and pitiful - with a dash of courageous, honorable and forthright. Neither impressive - or made less so - by their achievements and failures.  See also: the masses



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You know what I always find funny - all it takes for people to think someone is "good" is for them to be nice to the player. 

 

Heh yeah, I've noticed that too.



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@Blackstork: I don't consider Sten a good person either.

 

Good and Evil are not titles I give to very many people - and I do believe in these monikers as indicators for small groups of individuals.

 

Most people are "just people" - a mixture of good and bad deeds, mostly self-serving, ignorant, and pitiful - with a dash of courageous, honorable and forthright. Neither impressive - or made less so - by their achievements and failures.  See also: the masses

I agree here with you, but i judge persona based on transformation he undergone. Some characters do bad things but then realize something and try to compensate and to be highlty constructive . In case of Cole, selflessness and urge to help the innocent is such thing, which completes Cole character picture together with his past. The whole picture is vector, which moves thru time and shows character development. Improvement is manifestation of characters strength. Majority of DA :o , DA 2 and DA:I companions could be ranked worse than Cole for me, because their development goes downwards or do not evolves.

And the thing that i like he is not nice to you, he is true. He is what he is. So statement that he is scoundrel amnd opportunist is wrong imo. Also there some spoilery information that proves my viewpoint on him.



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Iron Bull would probably be your best bet. He's a merc, and has a strong sense of "us" vs "them". If you're on the team then you're on the team. He'd also approve of bloodthirstiness, but I doubt he'd approve of mowing down random people for laughs. Might not particularly disapprove, though.

 

If you're power-hungry but smart about it, then Viv will like you. But killing random people isn't very smart. You've gotta kill with purpose.

 

Solas doesn't think that blood magic is "evil", just that it is a tool that can be used and abused for different ends. But he is also very moral, and won't approve of random bloodshed. Also being a selfish dick is a good way of getting on his bad side.

 

Really, I don't see your party members liking you very much.