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This drm while un crackable hasn't shown to be that great in terms of performance. Apparently it causes alot of CPU and RAM overhead on games that uses it like Lords of the fallen (game perf isn't good) and FIFA 15 (loading times were crazy compared to older games).
DAI is using this same drm and it is a worry.
Some say none, some others 1 to 5% (1 to 5 percent too much). Needless to say this is a useless piece of crapware made by untrustworthy individuals who fathered securom and sony rootkits.
Some say none, some others 1 to 5% (1 to 5 percent too much). Needless to say this is a useless piece of crapware made by untrustworthy individuals who fathered securom and sony rootkits.
Good think Origin has the refund policy, I am gonna be really sad if this game is hindered by freaking DRM issues. At that point no amount of "sucking it up" will do anything and I will be forced to refund if the game runs like crap.
It'll use up half of your CPU cores, so if you have anything less than an 8-core CPU you're screwed. You need to go buy a new PC for the game. Obviously they've designed it to be unplayable.
Does Fifa 2015 has performance issues not lords of the fallen but Fifa does it have performance issues? It uses the same DRM and its part of EA I wanna know that to make a decision. Not lords of the fallen but Fifa 2015 has perfomance issues?
Heres someone who tested the SSD writes from LOTF which uses this drm:
"Resource monitors for RAM and CPU consumption numbers, memory viewer for trying to figure out what makes it tick and track address issues, SSD analysis tools for those delicious dead blocks and data tracking
Wanna know average number of times parts of LotF exe code are fucked around between RAM and HDD in the span of one hour? 150000 copy/write iterations. That's about 10000 times more than usual. DRM constantly decrypts the game code into the memory and encrypts it back. This is the most bullshit usage of encryption software I've ever stumbled upon. And even though code chunks are quite small(couple of kilobytes per go at worst), they are all stored in one memory block. And playing the game for 4-8 hours(depends on SSD quality) means that you can say goodbye to that block."
Does Fifa 2015 has performance issues not lords of the fallen but Fifa does it have performance issues? It uses the same DRM and its part of EA I wanna know that to make a decision. Not lords of the fallen but Fifa 2015 has perfomance issues?
It has long loading times, considering that this DRM uses massive hardware writes its not suprising.
Heres someone who tested the SSD writes from LOTF which uses this drm:
"Resource monitors for RAM and CPU consumption numbers, memory viewer for trying to figure out what makes it tick and track address issues, SSD analysis tools for those delicious dead blocks and data tracking
Wanna know average number of times parts of LotF exe code are fucked around between RAM and HDD in the span of one hour? 150000 copy/write iterations. That's about 10000 times more than usual. DRM constantly decrypts the game code into the memory and encrypts it back. This is the most bullshit usage of encryption software I've ever stumbled upon. And even though code chunks are quite small(couple of kilobytes per go at worst), they are all stored in one memory block. And playing the game for 4-8 hours(depends on SSD quality) means that you can say goodbye to that block."
So that means that after a playtrough of DA:I I will say goodbye to my pc or I can empty that block.
So that means that after a playtrough of DA:I I will say goodbye to my pc or I can empty that block.
There are a huge number of blocks on a hard drive but pretty much it will significantly damage your harddrive.
I have an ssd but because of this news I think I will install the game on my regular hard drive instead since those are cheap to replace. Its frustrating because now I can't take advantage of the less load times ssds provide.
There are a huge number of blocks on a hard drive but pretty much it will significantly damage your harddrive.
I have an ssd but because of this news I think I will install the game on my regular hard drive instead since those are cheap to replace. Its frustrating because now I can't take advantage of the less load times ssds provide.
But can those blocks be made clear? Are those blocks actually sectors because there hundred of millions on a 350 gb hard drive and I bet there billions on a 1 Terrabite hardrive.
But can those blocks be made clear?
No every hard drive has a lifespan of writes on every block, so if a significant amount of writes are done on that block, it will stop functioning and other blocks have to be used. Obviously overtime blocks will get damaged anyways due to normal computer operations but this DRM causes the damage in a short amount of time.
Another revelation is this:
"And best part?
Executable is never fully loaded into the RAM. Program just reserves memory and chucks code back and forth through the system. Yeah, it's quite effective as an anti-piracy measure as you can't rip the code out from the memory and reverse-engineer it, but result is not worth the price."
So basically denuvo asks for ram space but never uses it to deter cracking. So a chunk of your ram is just sitting their being unused.
Lords of the Fallen was cracked so another piece of nothing useful drm Denovo had become it took more then 3 days but now they know how to do it. I guess people never cared about Fifa 2015 enough to crack it.
Lords of the Fallen was cracked so another piece of nothing useful drm Denovo had become it took more then 3 days but now they know how to do it. I guess people never cared about Fifa 2015 enough to crack it.
this is incorrect.
First: Denuvo isnt a DRM....
Second: How do you even know that the bad performance you are talking about in Fifa 15 and lords of the fallen is because of Denuvo?
First: Denuvo isnt a DRM....
Second: How do you even know that the bad performance you are talking about in Fifa 15 and lords of the fallen is because of Denuvo?
Because the differences between whats normal in games. The write speed of the software should not be that insane, and its in both fifa 15 and LOTF.
Because the differences between whats normal in games. The write speed of the software should not be that insane, and its in both fifa 15 and LOTF.
Are you sure that is also true for LOTF because that has poor fps, crashes and many other issues and long loading time for FIFA 15 is not that big of a deal compared. And I am pretty sure it was cracked of course I will not check but the many people on forums and gamestop say it was cracked.
This drm while un crackable hasn't shown to be that great in terms of performance. Apparently it causes alot of CPU and RAM overhead on games that uses it like Lords of the fallen (game perf isn't good) and FIFA 15 (loading times were crazy compared to older games).
DAI is using this same drm and it is a worry.
Dunevo will eventually be cracked (also SecuRom took about 6 month IIRC the first time) and the all successive titles having the DRM will serve nothing to prevent piracy. I just hope that this time around (differently from SecuRom) there will be no backdoors or toolkits installed.
Heres someone who tested the SSD writes from LOTF which uses this drm:
"Resource monitors for RAM and CPU consumption numbers, memory viewer for trying to figure out what makes it tick and track address issues, SSD analysis tools for those delicious dead blocks and data tracking
Wanna know average number of times parts of LotF exe code are fucked around between RAM and HDD in the span of one hour? 150000 copy/write iterations. That's about 10000 times more than usual. DRM constantly decrypts the game code into the memory and encrypts it back. This is the most bullshit usage of encryption software I've ever stumbled upon. And even though code chunks are quite small(couple of kilobytes per go at worst), they are all stored in one memory block. And playing the game for 4-8 hours(depends on SSD quality) means that you can say goodbye to that block."
Why can't I find any more information about this via Google?
FIFA has been out for 2 months and LOTF almost 3 weeks. If Denuvo is causing SSD failures, I expected to find tonnes of search results from irate gamers. I can't even find who wrote your quote.
If you could link to that quote that would be nice because I did also intend to use my SSD for this game.
Why can't I find any more information about this via Google?
FIFA has been out for 2 months and LOTF almost 3 weeks. If Denuvo is causing SSD failures, I expected to find tonnes of search results from irate gamers. I can't even find who wrote your quote.
If you could link to that quote that would be nice because I did also intend to use my SSD for this game.
It will not cause failures, hard drives have billions of blocks depending on size. It will however significantly reduce lifespan
But can those blocks be made clear? Are those blocks actually sectors because there hundred of millions on a 350 gb hard drive and I bet there billions on a 1 Terrabite hardrive.
We're talking about an ssd here, the limitations of this technology are that the more the blocks are used, the less they live. So once the SSD controller decides that a memory block is baked it disables it and never uses it again. Some ssds reserve a bit of space to supplement the destroyed blocks (that's why you have 120GB drives instead of 128 ones), but the fact is that denuvo does a lot of unnecessary stuff and should not be used.
We're talking about an ssd here, the limitations of this technology are that the more the blocks are used, the less they live. So once the SSD controller decides that a memory block is baked it disables it and never uses it again. Some ssds reserve a bit of space to supplement the destroyed blocks (that's why you have 120GB drives instead of 128 ones), but the fact is that denuvo does a lot of unnecessary stuff and should not be used.
Yup this pretty much. So ill have to use my normal hard drive for the game.
I actually like Denuvo DRM, i have no performance issues on Fifa 15...
Why can't I find any more information about this via Google?
FIFA has been out for 2 months and LOTF almost 3 weeks. If Denuvo is causing SSD failures, I expected to find tonnes of search results from irate gamers. I can't even find who wrote your quote.
If you could link to that quote that would be nice because I did also intend to use my SSD for this game.
I also would like the source of this information. Preferably screenshots of disk read writes statistics for both games, because I can't find information about Denuvo and disk massive writes anywhere
I also would like the source of this information. Preferably screenshots of disk read writes statistics for both games, because I can't find information about Denuvo and disk massive writes anywhere
Ill try to get them for you.
I actually like Denuvo DRM, i have no performance issues on Fifa 15...
That's because fifa 15 is a 10 years old game with a new yearly paintjob.
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