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[vertigomez]

Josephine's from Antiva, which is at the same latitude as even the southernmost part or Rivain, and she's much darker than Isabella. Isabella being a sailor and Josephine being nobility (well, born in a similarly-wealthy merchant family, at least), I think its save to say that even the modified version of Eclipse they used to produce DA II (can't remember its name) still fails at skin tones.

Really? I thought Isabela had darker skin than Josie.

As for the OP though, I figure the further north you go, the darker skin tones you see. Zevran, Josephine, Fenris, Isabela, Vivienne, Dorian all are darker than, like, "Ferelden lily white".

[jay93062]

why do people keep blaming the engine and not the engineers? 

[Andraste_Reborn]

Holy necromancy, Batman!

 

This is certainly an important issue, but did the thread really need digging up nine months after the last post?

[Larry-3]

Nevarran's appear to be caramel, in terms of color.

[Dobbysaurus]

Straight Outta Compton

[The Oracle]

There as some implications/insinuations that the elves and humans may not have been so distantly related as many think. Gaider has let it slip in the past that being elvish is as much a magical thing as anything else, and that the reason elf-human couplings produce only humans is because the magical effect doesn't carry over.

 

If elves are a magically altered race, then naturally they must have been something else before they were elven- presumably human. If that's true, then it's possible that the 'all of Thedas was elven' narrative is itself misleading, more myth and objective history.

 

Or on the flip side, Humans are what Elves are when magic doesn't carry over in the blood. Perhaps Elves were the norm, until something happened to reduce their link to magic and/or separate it entirely from them. Those Elves without magic or where their magic was weak, bred and eventually became humans. Who knows?

 

*EDIT: And I'm just realising that this is a total necro thread. Lol. Eh...ah hell, nevermind.

[Afro_Explosion]

Where do the white people come from?

[thats1evildude]

According to some people on this forum, they were all parachuted in by SJWs.

[TeffexPope]

Before someone accuses me of racism, I'm non-white and dark-skinned myself.

 

I'm hugely interested in lore, so I was curious as to where in Thedas the African-featured characters come from.

 

Rivainis appear to have a dusky-to-dark skin tone with Indo-European features (not only in-game but in the comics as well), Tevinters, Orlesians, and Fereldans appear to be white in a northern European way, while Antivans are more Italo/Iberian.

 

Chasind appear to be darker-skinned whites, but this could be an engine limitation.

 

Has anyone read up on it? I don't own World of Thedas yet and I'm afraid to go to the wiki for fear of spoilers!

If anybody accuses you of 'racism' for asking where black people come from in DA, they're not worth your time.

[Andreas Amell]

Dark skin doesn't equal black. There were certainly no black elves, dwarves or  humans in the previous games. I don't think they made both games with their eyes wide open and consciously chose not to include a more realistic human racial diversity in their universe which is a shame. 

There have been dark skinned elves and dwarves in previous games. Baizul Harrowmont was one of them. 

 

But now that Inquisition features black dwarves and dark-skinned elves, do players not consider them 'black people'? 

[TheAngryOne]

Before someone accuses me of racism, I'm non-white and dark-skinned myself.

 

I'm hugely interested in lore, so I was curious as to where in Thedas the African-featured characters come from.

 

Rivainis appear to have a dusky-to-dark skin tone with Indo-European features (not only in-game but in the comics as well), Tevinters, Orlesians, and Fereldans appear to be white in a northern European way, while Antivans are more Italo/Iberian.

 

Chasind appear to be darker-skinned whites, but this could be an engine limitation.

 

Has anyone read up on it? I don't own World of Thedas yet and I'm afraid to go to the wiki for fear of spoilers!

Redguard

[Andreas Amell]

Redguard

I've just been playing Elder Scrolls Online as a Redguard in Stros M'Kai. Beautiful setting, but a dangerous place. The thrill of exploration is fresh there. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The dark skinned people come primarily from Antiva and Rivain. Actually, more like the dark skinned humans come primarily from Antiva and Rivain.

 

My question is where do dark skinned Elves, Dwarves and Qunari come from ? Are there Dalish clans that have a higher percentage of dark skinned elves ?

 

Actually, the thing that fascinates me most is how Dalish Elves, who wander around in forest environments, look fair and have fair skin. At the very least, Dalish Elves should be tanned. I can understand Ancient Elves being very fair. Most of them undergo some magic stasis ritual to sleep and wake up which means they don't get exposed to sunlight alot.

[Caddius]

If it helps this necro-thread, the ancestors of Fereldans, Orlesians, Marchers, and Tevinter came from Par Vollen and possibly farther up north, while the Rivaini seem to have come in from islands north of the Donarks. I'm not sure about the Antivans, though. 

I'm not sure about dark-skinned dwarves and elves. The Dalish should definitely be pretty tan. I'm guessing their usual paleness is to fit in with the Irish and Welsh accents as well as the usual elf stereotypes. 

[BloodKaiden]

I headcanon Sheva, James, and Tamela are from Rivaini, or were are least born there before moving to Ostwick.

[SmilesJA]

I have to admit I do wonder where did my black Warden came from in a family of white people. I just headcannon the fact he was adopted. 

[dragondreamer]

The dark skinned people come primarily from Antiva and Rivain. Actually, more like the dark skinned humans come primarily from Antiva and Rivain.

 

My question is where do dark skinned Elves, Dwarves and Qunari come from ? Are there Dalish clans that have a higher percentage of dark skinned elves ?

 

Actually, the thing that fascinates me most is how Dalish Elves, who wander around in forest environments, look fair and have fair skin. At the very least, Dalish Elves should be tanned. I can understand Ancient Elves being very fair. Most of them undergo some magic stasis ritual to sleep and wake up which means they don't get exposed to sunlight alot.

 

According to the Origins lore about Elvhenan, the ancient elves were once as diverse as the current human peoples of Thedas.  We probably have no way of knowing what sorts of elves came from where since the remnants of the civilization all gathered in Arlathan towards the end.  They would have become something of a melting pot during their slavery days in Tevinter, and later in the Dales.  So you'd also end up with a mix in the alienages and the Dalish clans.

 

Probably something similar for the dwarves before the darkspawn destroyed almost everything but Orzammar. 

 

Qunari skin tone is probably the least puzzling thing about their origins...

[Andres Hendrix]

Vivienne is from Rivain I think (or her family is) and I think Isabela is black as well (and obviously also from Rivain)? Just a bit lighter than Vivienne, but I'm not entirely sure. 

Vivienne is a Free Marcher, you can ask her about where she comes from.

[myahele]

Rivain seems to be the origins of "brown people" of Thedas, at the very least where a large portion live. I'd also like to note that in the WoT2 mentions islander similar to Rivainis but posses magic which makes their island invisible against Qunari. 

 

They also like jewelry, think: Isabela or perhaps Rivaini fashion

[Drasanil]

Actually, the thing that fascinates me most is how Dalish Elves, who wander around in forest environments, look fair and have fair skin. At the very least, Dalish Elves should be tanned. 

 

If you spend most of your time wandering forests like the Dalish do you're probably not going to get exposed to a lot of direct sunlight, you know what with trees casting shade and forests having a tendency to be full of them. They're certainly going to paler than your average peasant who spends his days working the fields or day labourers who spend a lot of their time in the sun moving and/or building stuff. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

If you spend most of your time wandering forests like the Dalish do you're probably not going to get exposed to a lot of direct sunlight, you know what with trees casting shade and forests having a tendency to be full of them. They're certainly going to paler than your average peasant who spends his days working the fields or day labourers who spend a lot of their time in the sun moving and/or building stuff. 

 

My family lived in the forests or near forests up until a generation or two ago. They either worked as hunters or rubber tappers or oil palm collectors. Let me tell you, the forest is not as shady as you think. Or maybe this is only true of forests in the equator, where I lived.

[Drasanil]

My family lived in the forests or near forests up until a generation or two ago. They either worked as hunters or rubber tappers or oil palm collectors. Let me tell you, the forest is not as shady as you think. Or maybe this is only true of forests in the equator, where I lived.

 

Guess it depends on where you live and the type of forest in your area. In Canada, at least in my area, the forests tend be rather well shaded. Used to take my dog for walks in them all the time and never got much in the way of direct sunlight unless I hit a clearing. 

[Andreas Amell]

The dark skinned people come primarily from Antiva and Rivain. Actually, more like the dark skinned humans come primarily from Antiva and Rivain.

 

My question is where do dark skinned Elves, Dwarves and Qunari come from ? Are there Dalish clans that have a higher percentage of dark skinned elves ?

 

 

So are we separating 'black/brown' humans from 'black/brown' elves and dwarves? This is a fantasy world. 

[FernRain]

http://critter-of-habit.tumblr.com/post/126763982280/looking-good-sweet-thing

 

That's Isabela in the multiplayer, for reference.

[sjsharp2011]

I'd say that:

 

Ferelden: North Europe

Free Marches: Central Europe

Orlais: France

Antiva: Italy

Tevinter: India

 

Par Vollen: ???

Germany I'd guess for Par Vollen or ddsomething like that or Arab type counrty. But that's moer based on the history of the world because the Qunari I kimnd of think like Gemans in that they appreciate efficiency. They like things to run like clockwork. But also what with a lot of fighting in that area of the world kind of makes me think it's a bit of a take on a kind of Arab state as well.