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[danielkrs]

Could you link the original source of that claim? That guy just quoted someone else with no citation.

 

My issue with this quote is that he uses the term "copy/write" iterations when SSD endurance is measured in program-erase (P/E) cycles. SSD blocks are known to withstand 100,000 P/E cycles, so if his calculations of 150,000 cycles per hour is true, then I expect irate gamers to be up in arms about failed SSD blocks in less than an hour. Yet I cannot for the life of me, even with all my google-fu skills, find the original research which led to these numbers. I cannot even find any evidence of people complaning about failed SSD blocks because of LOTF. Until I see conclusive evidence, I call shenanigans.

I'll try to find the original post. I know it's for a different game but isn't this the exact way Denuvo works? I don't know what to think of all this...

[Milan92]

I only keep hearing that FIFA 15 runs great on pc.

[dch2404]

I'll try to find the original post. I know it's for a different game but isn't this the exact way Denuvo works? I don't know what to think of all this...

 

Who is cpmartins on RPGCodex and why should you or I trust him? What are his credentials? Where are the graphs and screenshots?

 

This is an example of a well documented SSD endurance test. I'm not even going to claim I understand all the data presented here.

 

Edit: don't waste too much of your time looking for the data, because I don't think it exists. Feel free to prove me wrong though.

[Kantr]

If Denuvo was crippling people's systems there would be a lot of news about it.

[KoorahUK]

Yeah the 2 games with Denuvo (LOTF and FIFA) have been out long enough for a cause-effect relationship to be established yet not a single reputable technical site has picked up on this. Seriously WTF is RPGCodex? Is this site on par with CNET, Anandtech, Tomshardware, etc?

 

Is all you need are a few numbers and technical jargon enough to convince gullible people of an unproven phenomenon?

I haven't been on RPGCodex for many years. When I briefly spent time there I would characterise it - perhaps overly harshly - as a community of neckbeard circle-jerkers.

Thats not to say everyone was like that, or that there weren't people there that knew their onions when it came to PC tech, but as you say I'd put far more weight into this report if it was verified by a reputable tech specialist sites. 

[danielkrs]

I can't find the original poster. I am installing it on my HDD though just as a precaution until we know more about Denuvo.

[Kantr]

just stick it on the ssd.

[Bann Duncan]

just stick it on the ssd.

Nah, let him have it load more slowly.

[Navasha]

All of this denuvo hate is just people upset that they can't pirate the game.   They make up all kinds of stuff about how denuvo running on your computer destroys kittens and causes cancer.    They post that dribble on forums, causing panic and worry.    Other people than re-post those claims as somehow 'proof' of what denuvo does, because everyone knows everything written on the internet is 'TRUE'. 

 

Let them shoulder the burden of proof here.   Post some actual verifiable evidence that denuvo does what they are claiming.   Until then its just more internet propaganda to push an agenda.

[dch2404]

All of this denuvo hate is just people upset that they can't pirate the game.   They make up all kinds of stuff about how denuvo running on your computer destroys kittens and causes cancer.    They post that dribble on forums, causing panic and worry.    Other people than re-post those claims as somehow 'proof' of what denuvo does, because everyone knows everything written on the internet is 'TRUE'. 

 

Let them shoulder the burden of proof here.   Post some actual verifiable evidence that denuvo does what they are claiming.   Until then its just more internet propaganda to push an agenda.

 

I think the propaganda might be what Gabe Newell called social engineering, he talked about it in a recent reddit scandal http://www.reddit.co..._vac_and_trust/

[Fozee]

I'm going to lock this because Denuvo is not new, and there's no evidence to suggest that these concerns or claims are true. The game literally would not make it out of testing if it were true, because the executable would be corrupted quickly and the game wouldn't run. Causing an unsubstantiated uproar over this will not help any of us.