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[beyondconfused]

When are you people ever going to learn that security in a game IS NOT DRM. DRM stands for:

Digital Rights Managment

 

The key word in that is RIGHTS this means the legal authorization that comes directly from the Subscriber agreement AKA what you click I Agree to.

 

DRM is not ORIGIN it is not Steam, It is not UPLAY, those are nothing but SERVICES that have absolutely no authority over anyone.

 

A service does not dictate how a game is going to be played, the Subscriber agreement (AKA What you click I agree to) is what tells the user how they are to use the game. A service isn't anything without a terms of Service/Subscriber agreement.

 

People sound so stupid when they use the term "CRACK THE SUBSCRIBER AGREEMENT" which is exactly what they're saying when they say CRACK THE DRM.

 

People get confused and think because the game MUST be played through a service, then that somehow means the service is the DRM.....WRONG...what makes you play the game through the service is THE TERMS OF SERVICE (AKA WHAT YOU CLICK I AGREE TO) Without that agreement, then a game DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PLAYED THROUGH ANYTHING because there is nothing saying you have to. The forcing of that comes from thee agreement and not the service..

 

It's really annoying how gamers even after reading that, still try saying the service is the DRM...

[Angry_Elcor]

DRM just means that the company that made the copy of the game that you're buying gets to retain ownership of it. You're renting the right to use the software. There's also the ugly side of it, which is that when there are problems, you have no legal recourse, because you don't actually own what you paid for. The company may still compensate you, or repair/replace it, at their discretion, but you have no guarantees. If they decide to discontinue the DRM program, or the company goes out of business, or the company is purchased by someone else, you can be left with non-functioning software, and there really isn't anything you can do about it. Those are the exceptions, but people have every right to be nervous about a system that diminishes consumer protection and rights.

 

Copy protection is a separate system entirely, and dates back to the earliest software. DRM is a recent concept, and is not the same thing as copy-protection. It doesn't prevent piracy, and isn't even really designed to. It has more to do with preventing "fair use" (mods, for example) or resale.

[Ponendus]

Well, this appears to just be a post about semantics, but wouldn't it be fair to say that if EA is forcing you to use Origin in order to play their game (regardless of the terms of the service agreement, which I'm unsure what the point is you are getting at with), they are therefore using Origin to manage their digital rights?

 

Even if we do accept your point that the Terms themselves are the 'DRM', the terms are delivered via Origin. So the Origin 'service' as you call it is being utilised to deliver their digital rights management.

 

Thus - Origin is their Digital Rights Management solution...?

[Zoomba]

DRM is any technology that imposes limits on when/how/where you use a piece of purchased software.  You can dress it up any number of ways, and tack on all sorts of useful and positive features around it, but at the end of the day it's DRM.

 

A Terms of Service/Service Agreement/License Agreement is the legal document that specifically outlines what can be limited by the DRM tech and how.

 

Origin/Steam/Uplay are services that include DRM at their core.

 

A few good ways to test whether something is DRM:

1. Can the game be installed/played without Steam/Origin/Uplay being installed on your PC?

2. Can the game be installed/played without a valid Steam/Origin/Uplay account?

3. Can the game be played simultaneously by multiple PCs at the same time when installed from the same disc (in the case of a physical box)?

 

Did you answer Yes to these three questions?  Then congrats, you have a DRM-free game.  There is no additional technology limiting your use of the game.  See most releases on GOG as great examples.

 

In the case of DA:I, the answer to all of these questions is "No"

 

If you don't want to use Origin, and want to play DA:I on you're PC, you are simply out of luck.  If you have purchased and play the game, and for some reason your Origin account is deactivated by EA, then you're out of luck and can no longer play.  And because the key is tied to the account, which can only be logged in from one location at a time, you can't play multiple instances at the same time (without jumping through some creative hoops at least).

 

Sure, Origin includes a lot of other great features like a download manager, patches, DLC, a store, achievements, a consolidated games library etc, but at the center of all of that are tools that can control how and when you play a game. 

 

That is what DRM is.

[Dycho]

What's with you creating topics to attack others/discuss things with caps rage? Especially on forums mostly about a video game about to release in less then 24 hours? Your not even trying to "discuss" your trying to push what your allowed to do in these forums and thus far have had everyone of those topics locked :/

Oh well...hope you enjoy the game!

[Almostfaceman]

When are you people ever going to learn that security in a game IS NOT DRM. DRM stands for:

Digital Rights Managment

 

The key word in that is RIGHTS this means the legal authorization that comes directly from the Subscriber agreement AKA what you click I Agree to.

 

DRM is not ORIGIN it is not Steam, It is not UPLAY, those are nothing but SERVICES that have absolutely no authority over anyone.

 

A service does not dictate how a game is going to be played, the Subscriber agreement (AKA What you click I agree to) is what tells the user how they are to use the game. A service isn't anything without a terms of Service/Subscriber agreement.

 

People sound so stupid when they use the term "CRACK THE SUBSCRIBER AGREEMENT" which is exactly what they're saying when they say CRACK THE DRM.

 

People get confused and think because the game MUST be played through a service, then that somehow means the service is the DRM.....WRONG...what makes you play the game through the service is THE TERMS OF SERVICE (AKA WHAT YOU CLICK I AGREE TO) Without that agreement, then a game DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PLAYED THROUGH ANYTHING because there is nothing saying you have to. The forcing of that comes from thee agreement and not the service..

 

It's really annoying how gamers even after reading that, still try saying the service is the DRM...

 

Well, actually, I disagree. Terms of Service explain your Digital Rights. The software, like Origin or Steam, manages the game to enforce those rights. Thus the term Digital Rights Management.