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[Iakus]

Low EMS Destroy=relays asplode.

 

And we all know what happens then.

[Vazgen]

Low EMS Destroy=relays asplode.

 

And we all know what happens then.

Low EMS Destroy resulting cutscene - a soldier alive on Earth. So no, they don't go out Alpha Relay-style

[Iakus]

Low EMS Destroy resulting cutscene - a soldier alive on Earth. So no, they don't go out Alpha Relay-style

Earth is destroyed.  We see that happen. 

 

We don't know what planet that was.  Or where that soldier came from.  But fortunately, since the remants of the fleet FTL-ed away before the poop hit the fan, at least we know humanity hasn't gone extinct.

[Vazgen]

Earth is destroyed.  We see that happen. 

 

We don't know what planet that was.  Or where that soldier came from.  But fortunately, since the remants of the fleet FTL-ed away before the poop hit the fan, at least we know humanity hasn't gone extinct.

My point is, if the explosions were similar to Alpha Relay explosion there would've been no planets, especially with survivors. We are explicitly told that there were survivors. Considering the allied fleet was composed of ships from all races, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to consider all races survived, not only humanity. 

Earth is destroyed. 200 years later, Earth is rebuilt using terraforming technologies that the Alliance used for their colonies. I don't see it as too much of a stretch. 

[Iakus]

My point is, if the explosions were similar to Alpha Relay explosion there would've been no planets, especially with survivors. We are explicitly told that there were survivors. Considering the allied fleet was composed of ships from all races, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to consider all races survived, not only humanity. 

Earth is destroyed. 200 years later, Earth is rebuilt using terraforming technologies that the Alliance used for their colonies. I don't see it as too much of a stretch. 

 

With ruptured relays  Earth is destroyed.  And Thessia, Palaven, Sur'Kesh, Tuchanka, Rannoch, Irune, Kahje, etc.

 

Plus every colony in a system that has a relay.  Illum, Eden Prime.  Omega.  The majority of every population would be completely wiped out. 

 

And no more relay travel.  It would be a true galactic dark age it would take millenia to recover from.

[Vazgen]

With ruptured relays  Earth is destroyed.  And Thessia, Palaven, Sur'Kesh, Tuchanka, Rannoch, Irune, Kahje, etc.

 

Plus every colony in a system that has a relay.  Illum, Eden Prime.  Omega.  The majority of every population would be completely wiped out. 

 

And no more relay travel.  It would be a true galactic dark age it would take millenia to recover from.

That's your perception. Mine is that with the knowledge of the Crucible technology and Reaper corpses lying around for reverse engineering, as well as already-existing technology it would take much shorter time

[Cheviot]

I think that instead of the galaxy, the next Mass Effect game will be focussed on a single star system, behind a locked relay.  Each planet in the system will be inhabited, and the player will travel between them.

[Nitrocuban]

Boooooooooooring

[Cheviot]

Boooooooooooring

Are you talking about my idea?  If so, you should really ask how I would explain the Krogan and the humanoid protagonist before you judge it.

[Iakus]

That's your perception. Mine is that with the knowledge of the Crucible technology and Reaper corpses lying around for reverse engineering, as well as already-existing technology it would take much shorter time

Reverse engineered by who?  Most of the galaxy at this point has been wiped out.  And those that are left are cut off from each other.

[Vazgen]

Reverse engineered by who?  Most of the galaxy at this point has been wiped out.  And those that are left are cut off from each other.

Crucible scientists are very much alive and probably together.

[Iakus]

Crucible scientists are very much alive and probably together.

 

And will have to rebuild each relay one at a time.

 

On limited supplies, since most of the garden worlds have been incinerated.

[Vazgen]

And will have to rebuild each relay one at a time.

 

On limited supplies, since most of the garden worlds have been incinerated.

I'm sure they'll manage

[Mcfly616]

I'm not sure you follow. The universe is the same as it was in the end of the trilogy. If you read my posts I'm against "forgotten completely" option that Iakus suggests. Watering endings down does not invalidate them as does setting the game in an entirely new area (as long as you reference the events of the triligy).

I'm sure you don't follow. You've demonstrated it superbly.  You can't water down the endings. You're not proposing that the universe is the same as it was at the end of the trilogy. You're proposing the universe is the same as it's always been minus Reapers. And in that case, it wouldn't be a sequel because it is not representing the world state as we last left it.

 

 

You want a sequel, you're going to have to accept the canonization of one of the 3 drastically different futures provided by the ME3 endings. Oh, and EMS has an effect as well. Low EMS Destroy is much different than High EMS....in High we destroy Reapers....in low we pretty much destroy everything.

[Vazgen]

I'm sure you don't follow. You've demonstrated it superbly.  You can't water down the endings. You're not proposing that the universe is the same as it was at the end of the trilogy. You're proposing the universe is the same as it's always been minus Reapers. And in that case, it wouldn't be a sequel because it is not representing the world state as we last left it.

 

 

You want a sequel, you're going to have to accept the canonization of one of the 3 drastically different futures provided by the ME3 endings. Oh, and EMS has an effect as well. Low EMS Destroy is much different than High EMS....in High we destroy Reapers....in low we pretty much destroy everything.

I find your statement erroneous. Setting the game far in the future and assuming that the galaxy we left in ME3 will stay the same is wrong. The galaxy changes, evolves. Developers can guide that evolution wherever they want, provided they stay within the boundaries of the established lore. 

ME1 ended with the Sovereign crashing on the Citadel. ME2 had "Ah, yes, Reapers". Was it not a sequel? 

[Malanek]

With ruptured relays  Earth is destroyed.  And Thessia, Palaven, Sur'Kesh, Tuchanka, Rannoch, Irune, Kahje, etc.

 

Plus every colony in a system that has a relay.  Illum, Eden Prime.  Omega.  The majority of every population would be completely wiped out. 

 

And no more relay travel.  It would be a true galactic dark age it would take millenia to recover from.

Earth wasn't 'destroyed'. Devastated would be a better word. Same for all those other planets. Any colony that could feed itself would be ok and be aware recycling technology can be pretty advanced. You seem to be inventing things saying "the majority of every population would be completely wiped out."

 

Yes there would be no more relay travel for a while...but millenia is an assumption you are making that the writers can pretty much choose what they want. Personally I think a devastated but rebuilding galactic community would be an extremely interesting setting for the next game.

[XXIceColdXX]

Maybe go with whatever lame alternate universe for next game or next trilogy? Could be like Star Wars episode 1,2 and 3. ( notice distinct drop in quality)

Then back with a bang game after. IT, wakey wakey Shep get the f*#^ up and let's get Harbinger once and for all!

Yep I'd be happy with that. Although would rather not have to wait.

[Iakus]

Earth wasn't 'destroyed'. Devastated would be a better word. Same for all those other planets. Any colony that could feed itself would be ok and be aware recycling technology can be pretty advanced. You seem to be inventing things saying "the majority of every population would be completely wiped out."

 

Yes there would be no more relay travel for a while...but millenia is an assumption you are making that the writers can pretty much choose what they want. Personally I think a devastated but rebuilding galactic community would be an extremely interesting setting for the next game.

Earth is not destroyed as in "not there anymore".  But it is a barren rock, you see it happen.

 

And the relays explode in Low EMS Destroy.  Compare the scene to the High EMS version.  That means Earth is doubly screwed.  And every system  that has a relay in it is frakked.  So yeah, the majority of the galaxy's population would be wiped out.

 

Sure the writers can handwave these things away with a "resources" excuse.  But choosing something that flies in the face of what has already been presented would be rather poor writing.  And just another example of how choices are watered down to the point of being meaningless

 

I'm starting to think this thread should be moved t the spoiler section.

[goishen]

Plus, I think you're forgetting the "penny in the pool" analogy.  Drop a penny in pool of water, what happens?  The most disturbance happens around the center, and waves expand outward slowly.  Who's to say the reapers aren't the same way?  With all of them being on Earth, why can't all of the destruction or all of the synthesis take place there, and expand out slowly until it becomes nothing?

 

I'm not discounting your idea, it's just to what level is technology set back?

 

EDIT :  As a matter of fact, I think that's one thing they may try and do.  Have earth do synthesis and have the humans on earth become so alien that actual humans have to go off to live on another planet.  Or, perhaps it's been destroyed.  Or perhaps Shep and his evil reapers control it.

[Mcfly616]

The whole galaxy is hit by the Crucible energy. So whether you choose destroy or synthesis, the entire galaxy is effected. It happens right in front of your eyes.

[ZipZap2000]

New theory: It's a game and a game about space magic to boot, so somebody uses it to fix everything.

[Drone223]

Maybe go with whatever lame alternate universe for next game or next trilogy? Could be like Star Wars episode 1,2 and 3. ( notice distinct drop in quality)

Then back with a bang game after. IT, wakey wakey Shep get the f*#^ up and let's get Harbinger once and for all!

Yep I'd be happy with that. Although would rather not have to wait.

None of that is going to happen, especially IT.

[wiyazzie]

None of that is going to happen, especially IT.

well the IT did make the most sense out of all the other theorys such as the Ark Theory or the Shepherd theory because they don't explain strange dreams, kids invisible to everyone else, reapers leaving Shepard to destroy them all, and my personal favorite when the Alliance is telling everyone to fall back saying nobody made it when you can see clearly down the bottom and Captain Anderson would be the guy to make the call when he made it as well

[felipejiraya]

The whole galaxy is hit by the Crucible energy. So whether you choose destroy or synthesis, the entire galaxy is effected. It happens right in front of your eyes.

 

Not necessarily, we see the Crucible energy being distributed through the active Mass Relays but there's a loop here that the writers can use if they say the waves didn't activate dormant MRs so it has not affected certain areas of the galaxy who are completely dettached from the galactic society.

[T-Raks]

It's funny how initially everybody said the endings are all the same - "just different colors" - and now they are sooooooooo different for some, that history can't go on. I'll bet that for the writers the endings are not that different.