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It was my bad. It seems that Frostbite does not like MSIAfterburner OSD. Once I shut that down, everything is smooth.  ^_^

Do you still run MSI? I do not have an on screen display, but display it on the LCD of my keyboard



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It was my bad. It seems that Frostbite does not like MSIAfterburner OSD. Once I shut that down, everything is smooth.  ^_^

 

May want to edit the OP to indicate that (most people stop at the OP and hit reply...)



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Anyone running SLI or crossfire? Does DA:I support dual cards?

I want an answer to this as well. And if it does support, what is performance like?



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May want to edit the OP to indicate that (most people stop at the OP and hit reply...)

Done :) thx.



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Do you still run MSI? I do not have an on screen display, but display it on the LCD of my keyboard

 

Not anymore, now I use the in game display. "~" to bring up console and type PerfOverlay.DrawFps 1



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Anyone having problems, see this post:

http://forum.bioware...-ready-for-dai/

 

Running background programs is just one of the problems. 

 

Aside form optimizing your PC, in a worse case scenario run http://download.cnet...4-10913645.html

if you don't know how to shut off background programs properly and see if that helps. 

 

And don't panic reading some of this performance stuff, aside from individual configurations not being optimal, newer cards are more prone to problems than older ones until drivers are updated. And a minority will have problems with any given game. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. 


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It will be your RAM or your hard drive. Or something to do with your page file.

Use resource monitor and see if you are getting I/O errors when the stuttering occurs. What usually happens when you have an environment of this size, rather than load the whole thing at the start, the game will access your hard drive while you're playing as and when it needs to. If the hard drive isn't delivering that data fast enough to keep up then you will get a stutter while the game waits for it.

You can usually tell when it's something like this because your CPU and GPU probably won't be struggling, and changing most of the graphics settings won't make a difference. Lowering texture quality might help though, as that will mostly be what the game is asking the hard drive for as you're running around playing.

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TheJiveDJ

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soo....it isn't midnight EST yet...how are people playing this on PC already?



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soo....it isn't midnight EST yet...how are people playing this on PC already?

 

VPN's, because playing a game as early as chronologically possible is super important. Apparently.


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OK GOT A FIX!!!

 

I turned off FRAPS and it immediately fixed the issue. TURN OFF any programs you got running in the background one by one until you find the culprit! I hope this helps you all. 



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It was my bad. It seems that Frostbite does not like MSIAfterburner OSD. Once I shut that down, everything is smooth.  ^_^

 

Your GPU OC is not stable that is why when you close Afterburner it runs smooth... What I would do if I were you is run the DAI benchmark and tune from there rather than using other applications to stress test. I am assuming that BW made the bench to accommodate the game so that is what I would use to measure if your card is stable or not. Also what brand 970 do you have and what is your asic quality. Your core clock shouldn't be more than +104 even with a modded bios, unless you are also increasing the voltage in which case you should be increasing the wattage limits as well. Let me know if that's it.



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Your GPU OC is not stable that is why when you close Afterburner it runs smooth... What I would do if I were you is run the DAI benchmark and tune from there rather than using other applications to stress test. I am assuming that BW made the bench to accommodate the game so that is what I would use to measure if your card is stable or not. Also what brand 970 do you have and what is your asic quality. Your core clock shouldn't be more than +104 even with a modded bios, unless you are also increasing the voltage in which case you should be increasing the wattage limits as well. Let me know if that's it.

 

I am running MSI 970 with stock settings. I didnt OC so this is definitely not a GPU OC stability issue.

 

I can run MSI in the background, I just cannot have in-game OSD or it will cause micro stuttering. Well, in BF4 it simply crashes when I use the OSD so I believe it would be because Frostbite does not like all these 3rd party monitoring software.



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Wow thanks for the FPS tip. Gonna try tonight

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I am running MSI 970 with stock settings. I didnt OC so this is definitely not a GPU OC stability issue.

 

I can run MSI in the background, I just cannot have in-game OSD or it will cause micro stuttering. Well, in BF4 it simply crashes when I use the OSD so I believe it would be because Frostbite does not like all these 3rd party monitoring software.

 

So you have an aftermarket OC GUI but you are only using it to view a OSD... ok, that seems a little pointless to me but whatever. And those aftermarket OSDs are meant to be viewed in game so that really shouldn't be the problem because it doesn't change anything computational wise unless you OC your PC... Maybe the problem it is that your voltage leakage is too low... Also what video settings are you using? Whats you asic quality?



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So you have an aftermarket OC GUI but you are only using it to view a OSD... ok, that seems a little pointless to me but whatever. And those aftermarket OSDs are meant to be viewed in game so that really shouldn't be the problem because it doesn't change anything computational wise unless you OC your PC... Maybe the problem it is that your voltage leakage is too low... Also what video settings are you using? Whats you asic quality?

 

I am running 1080p Ultra with 2xMSAA. 90% of the time FPS > 60.

 

My asic quality rating is 64% and GPU voltage under load is 1.2V. Since I am using factory OC settings low voltage leakage is not the problem. You are right, aftermarket OSD should not cause any problem -BUT- neither should low voltage leakage be the problem because if that were the case, it will not matter if I use the OSD or not.

 

Since I switched off the OSD, everything is running smoothly and I will probably revisit this issue when I have more time ( meaning when I finish playing the game :P )

 

Yeah, I am only using the MSIAfterburner mainly to view OSD because it gives me the most information but I also uses it to create custom fan profiles so not entirely pointless :P



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Just want to input. Running older system, i7 930, 6gb ram, SSD for OS, Game is installed on separate Disk Drive(HDD), but with an evga 780Ti, 60FPS constant, everything MAX, 1080p.  Smooth.

 

But, I ran Mirillis Action! and the game kept crashing to desktop with no errors.  I usually use Action! for games just for screenshots, so had to turn it off.

 

To record gameplay video, I use built in Nvidia Shadowplay, and that also runs constant, 20 mins record time, max settings.  So even with Shadowplay, the game runs 60fps max settings.  Very nice.



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I am running 1080p Ultra with 2xMSAA. 90% of the time FPS > 60.

 

My asic quality rating is 64% and GPU voltage under load is 1.2V. Since I am using factory OC settings low voltage leakage is not the problem. You are right, aftermarket OSD should not cause any problem -BUT- neither should low voltage leakage be the problem because if that were the case, it will not matter if I use the OSD or not.

 

Since I switched off the OSD, everything is running smoothly and I will probably revisit this issue when I have more time ( meaning when I finish playing the game :P )

 

Yeah, I am only using the MSIAfterburner mainly to view OSD because it gives me the most information but I also uses it to create custom fan profiles so not entirely pointless :P

 

Voltage leak=ASIC=how efficient voltage increases/decreases/drains from ground pin connectors=how stable your card preforms at higher voltages=what wattage level your card should run at=what clock speeds your card can run=how many FPS you get in game. You have a terribad asic for a 970. I suggest lowering the core clock and maybe mem clock as well in steps of 13 which are called bins. Try lowering it a bin at a time and see where that gets you. Loop the DAI bench for 30 minutes minimum. 1.2V is really freaking high for a default clock... Max default bios OC mv for this card is 1212.5 mv. I would RMA the card if I were you and tell them that your card is not stable at stock settings.



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Voltage leak=ASIC=how efficient voltage increases/decreases/drains from ground pin connectors=how stable your card preforms at higher voltages=what wattage level your card should run at=what clock speeds your card can run=how many FPS you get in game. You have a terribad asic for a 970. I suggest lowering the core clock and maybe mem clock as well in steps of 13 which are called bins. Try lowering it a bin at a time and see where that gets you. Loop the DAI bench for 30 minutes minimum. 1.2V is really freaking high for a default clock... Max default bios OC mv for this card is 1212.5 mv. I would RMA the card if I were you and tell them that your card is not stable at stock settings.

 

This card's has factory OC and its default voltage is 1.2v. Freaking high?  <_<

 

You are suggesting this card is not stable but practically, I do not experience any problem besides this little micro stutter in this one game. And I should return it and gamble for a new number that could be worse? Why would I when the card is stable, cool and performs very well under stress; in this case, I am getting >60 FPS constantly out of the game in Ultra setting @1080p.

 

To me ASIC quality is only a guideline that I would take into account if I need to OC my card more.

 

p/s: There are many ways to interpret asic quality btw



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For those of you experiencing stuttering or hitching issues, what is your VRAM usage?

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This card's has factory OC and its default voltage is 1.2v. Freaking high?  <_<

 

You are suggesting this card is not stable but practically, I do not experience any problem besides this little micro stutter in this one game. And I should return it and gamble for a new number that could be worse? Why would I when the card is stable, cool and performs very well under stress; in this case, I am getting >60 FPS constantly out of the game in Ultra setting @1080p.

 

To me ASIC quality is only a guideline that I would take into account if I need to OC my card more.

 

p/s: There are many ways to interpret asic quality btw

 

Too true, there are many ways to interpret ASIC quality. I'm just taking my interpretation from the guys who come up with that particular statistic. Did you know its also linked to S/N? A batch of them actually.

 

I'm barely at 1V with a 980 with a 6 pin and an 8 pin during idle. It goes to 1212.5mv with a core of 1560 (constant during benching) and mem of 1994 under full load. I get 14000+ on 3dmark and that's because I OC my card. I'm saying 1.2V is high for a single 8 pin that has a default core of 1165, 1317 boost that is not OCed at all.

 

And new info has come up. The thread I bumped because I saw that it was a good fix for stuttering (low FPS cap) during cut scenes. If you're still having issues after that fix, its either the hardware or software and it has to be one of those because I'm assuming you're not running a custom BIOS firmware on that card since you said your not OCing it first and said nothing about a custom BIOS. Could be drivers as well. But I digress. I really could care less if you RMA the card or not. Just trying to point out that more V=more W=more $. Just trying to help. If you're happy with your card keep it. I'm not trying to force you into anything.



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And new info has come up. The thread I bumped because I saw that it was a good fix for stuttering (low FPS cap) during cut scenes. If you're still having issues after that fix, its either the hardware or software and it has to be one of those because I'm assuming you're not running a custom BIOS firmware on that card since you said your not OCing it first and said nothing about a custom BIOS. Could be drivers as well. But I digress. I really could care less if you RMA the card or not. Just trying to point out that more V=more W=more $. Just trying to help. If you're happy with your card keep it. I'm not trying to force you into anything.

 

Yeah, thx for the effort to help dude, appreciate it.

 

:lol: p/s: Special thx for the thread you bumped - it really improved the cut scene experience by 100%



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I run a GTX760 4GB, 8GB ram, 4790k (not overclocked) and getting a microstutter every 2mins in the game play world. Running most recent drivers (updated last night)



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780 Ti, 344.65.

No stutters at all, except some minor stutters in cutscenes (even with the 60fps fix).

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BTW its not Rival tuner, I can play fine with it enabled in my OSD.



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BTW its not Rival tuner, I can play fine with it enabled in my OSD.

 

Yeah, Rival Tuner does not seem to be the problem for me too now. I turning it back on and it didnt stutter. Tried vsync on/off, adaptive vsync, and all sorts of settings but it just didnt stutter. I have no idea what happened in the first couple hours of the game but now I cant even get it to micro-sutter....