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[ninsegtari]

When I heard about the Keep I thought it was perfect. My hard drive crashed along with my DA files (I stupidly ignored the cloud option). So I created a list of all my decisions to prepare for the Keep. But I found a lot to be missing. Including things that carried over into DA2.

 

Where's the option to say the Warden slept with Isabela and Leliana (and later broke up with Leliana)? Where's the note about ,Leeliana and Alistair being hardened?

 

Any way, thought I'd post my list just to give you an idea of things I tracked and thought might be covered.

 

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Dragon Age: Origins

• Male – Elf – Mage – Dirty Blonde
• Betrayed (blood mage) to Irving
• Gave wounded soldier some medicine
• Saved the dog
• Recruited Shale; the young girl was possessed by Kitty and then killed
• Killed the highwaymen
• Worked with the corrupt salesman
• Fell in love with Liliana
• Killed Margilain and hardened Liliana
• Bedded (hardened) Liliana and Isabela
• Saved Redcliffe; killed the elf hired by Loghain; bar owner Lloyd was killed; borrowed boy’s sword; told the sister to sell it and go to Denerim (she might have married Teagan); saved the smithy’s daughter
• Sacrificed Lady Isolde to save Connor; Traded Connor’s soul for sex with the desire demon; left blood mage in Arl Eamon’s custody, but suggested he turn the mage over to the Circle
• Killed Ser Landry in an honorable duel
• Spared Zevran
• Helped Dagna reach the Circle of Magi; ignored Brother [dwarf]’s attempt to establish an Orzammar chantry
• Convinced mother of casteless to go to the surface
• Destroyed the Anvil of the Void; sided with Bhelen for king
• Took Shale to Cadash Thaig
• Took Alistair to his sister and hardened him
• Killed the villagers of Haven; didn’t killed the dragon worshippers; desecrated the Sacred Ashes; didn’t fight the high dragon; drank the dragon’s blood
• Broke up with Liliana (for desecrating the Sacred Ashes)
• Sided with the Great Oak; killed the mad wizard
• Sided with the Dalish and killed all the werewolves; slept with elf girl; murdered Zathrian in ruins
• Fell in love with Morrigan (received a wooden ring from her)
• Killed Flemeth
• Sided with the mages; allowed the desire demon to keep the Templar thrall; took Wynn, Morrigan, and Alistair into the Sloth Demon’s realm; saved Irving
• Allowed Avernus to live and continue his research unimpeded
• Killed Vaughan Kendells [the rapist]; freed other prisoners
• Killed Ser Cauthrien [Loghain’s bodyguard] when rescuing Queen Anora
• Killed the Tevinters in the alienage and freed ALL the slaves
• Betrayed by Anora at the Landsmeet; (barely) lost the Landsmeet; defeated Loghain myself and executed him
• Alistair made king; Anora locked away
• Impregnated Morrigan; left her at the gate for the final battle
• Killed the Archdemon and survived; left to find Morrigan
• Brother Genitivi killed himself
• Orzammar Circle of Magi founded
• King Alistair asked the Chantry to free the Fereldan mages… the Chantry declined

Awakening

• Recruited each warden
• Anders became a blood mage; killed the Templars
• Helped Wynn find garden lady
• Calmed the barbarian statue spirits
• Oghren became a good father
• Protected trade routes
• Killed off the smugglers
• Killed the wandering blood mages
• Told wife about her husband’s suicide
• Wasn’t judgmental toward the Warden’s cheating wife
• Tell Velanna to write new stories for the Dalish
• Alec the Sheepherder was conscripted
• Danella was arrested for desertion (1 yr)
• Returned land(the bridge) to Ser Derren
• Executed Ser Temmerly the Ox; allowed the plot against the wardens to fester; killed Bann Esmerelle
• The lisping Messenger was executed
• Amaranthine was saved (Nathaniel, Sigrun, Velanna)
• The Architect was killed
• Vigil’s keep withstood the assault (Anders, Ogrhen, Justice)
• Anders lost the drinking contest
• Oghren woke up 2 weeks later
• Sigrun folded her clothes and left for the Calling (didn’t do her quest)
• Blight Orphans formed; established the Silver Order; Dworkin became a master explosives maker; Ser Alec the Valiant; Wade created the long sword “Vigilance”
• Kal’Hirol was reclaimed; the casteless plate honored

Amgarrak

• N/A

Witches

• Joined Morrigan through the eluvian

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Dragon Age 2

• Companions:
  • Rival
    • Aveline
    • Merrill
    • Fenris
    • Sebastian
    • Carver
  • Friend
    • Varric
    • Anders
    • Isabela

Act 1

• Male – Mage – Default (with blood on nose)
• Worked with Athenril the smuggler
• Gave boy the goods that Athenril wanted; lied to her about it
• Killed the crazy guy in the cave
• Didn’t kill the Fereldans outside the clinic
• Killed the Dalish who thought she found a werewolf
• Returned Avernus’s letters to the Wardens
• Threatened harbor master’s assistant; gave poison to Isabela’s friend
• Killed the blood mage in the blooming rose
• Karen stayed with the Templars
• Killed the Karatom; Ketojan killed himself
• Convinced Maras to kill the other tal-vashoth with you
• Killed the slavers that sold Feynriel; sent Feynrial to the Dalish
• Saved Shaemas and told the Viscount to be more open-minded
• Forced the dwarf Javaris to pay up thanks to the Arishok
• Quest funded by Doogal
• Made a deal with the rock wraith; killed the rock wraith for the treasure; Carver became a Grey Warden

Act 2

• Killed Doogal
• Denied Merril the arulinholme
• Slept with Isabela
• Freed the Starkhaven mages
• Spared the greedy dwarf Javaris
• Convinced French guy to pay miners better
• Destroyed the books on blood magic
• Spoke to Torpor, but then killed him; freed Feynriel, but kept his mind intact; Feynriel left for Tevinter
• Anders healed Bartrand; Varric mercy kills his brother
• Saved Sketch
• Spared the Fereldan mine thief
• Killed Coterie girl after finding the dead one who helped you interrogate Fereldan mine thief
• Killed Chantry fanatics and told Arishok the truth about his diplomats
• Killed the Templars harassing the Dalish
• Anders killed the mage girl by accident; told him to stay in Kirkwall and atone
• Corypheus; learned the origin of Bianca; Carver and Hawke learned about their father; rĕad prayer to dwarven bones; desecrated shrine to Dumat; brought Anders and learned the truth about the golden city; Corypheus was released into the old Warden Commander
• Allow DuPuis to flee; used him to find the killer’s lair; Varric killed DuPuis
• Liandra was murdered
• Struck out at Aveline
• Told Liliana to prepare for war
• Mother Petrice died
• Gained the Arishok’s respect
• Tome of Koslun returned; Arishok killed by Hawke in single combat

Act 3

• Sided with Orsino
• Returned all the qunari swords
• Aided Anders in finding ingredients
• Killed the high dragon of the bone pit; took ownership of the mine
• Killed Danarius and spared Fenris’s sister
• Killed Castion
• Took the idol shard away from Varric; placed the primeval enchantment in the Staff of Parthalon
• Saved Nathaniel and Carver
• Confronted Jeven; Aveline later pissed that you didn’t let her handle it
• Reunited Gamlen with his daughter Charade
• Allowed Zevran to live; forbade Isabela from having sex with him
• Merril’s entire clan was killed
• Fell in love with Isabela
• Let Emile de Launcet get the girl pregnant; returned him to the Circle
• Asked Cullen to be lenient on the mages
• Tallis; saved dogs; found sacred altar; killed alpha wyvern; had French guy executed; tossed all the coins in the fountain; put drugs into Duke’s son’s drink; went in guns blazing; murdered Duke Prosper; “romanced” Tallis
• Sided with the mages; spared Anders

 

[Devil's Avocado]

the issue with adding more choices is speed and complexity. The more tiles in the Keep the slower it becomes. If any plots have connections to another one it requires more programming.  When they decide to add more it depends on what the fans are requesting (which you should be submitting your plot suggestions in the Keep) and other factors they consider such as whether that plot has real potential for content in the future and difficulty in adding the tile. For example they probably won't add too many origin specific plots. Boons will not be added, small things such as how many gifts you gave a companion etc.

Hardening alistair/leliana is indirectly referenced in Goldanna and Marjolaine's tiles respective.

 

During closed beta they had polls asking which plots people wanted more out of three choices per game, arishok's respect and genitivi's fate were the popular vote but since they're focusing on bugs and making sure it works for DA:I they'll add them later on.

[DAJB]

Some of the issues you listed (fate of the companions in DAO: Awakening, for example) have already been suggested by others, so who knows? They may happen (but almost certainly not until well after launch). 

 

In addition to the technical issues, however, another problem for the devs, is that different people want different things from the Keep. While some have suggested ideas for more tiles, others have complained that there are already too many. Some people don't want to spend hours recreating every single decision they made, especially if those decisions aren't going to affect DA:I.

 

The balance between completeness and relevance is a bit of a juggling act!

[Ferretinabun]

Please also bare in mind plot relevance. The Prisoner at Ostagar is already being touted as an example of a meaningless tile. ("Why isn't there a tile for X when there's a tile for the Ostagar Prisoner?") And it's true that it's very unlikely that decision will have an impact in future titles. So perhaps the best thing you can do is select a couple of decisions you think would be most meaningful and request them.

 

For me, if they add the Orlesian warden in Awakenings, whether Sebastian chose to be prince or priest, and perhaps the fate of Brother Genetivi, then I'd consider the Keep done.

 

Maybe fates for Velanna and Sigrun too...

[MCG]

Didn't they say that the Keep will be used and expanded for all future titles until further notice. I believe if they have plans later on that link to a decision not yet in the Keep they'll pop it in later.

[Kantr]

TL:DR

 

If you want something in the keep use the feedback button. Be aware though that you cant really have everything just yet

[dsl08002]

the Darkspawn messenger is a popular one (killed or spared). hopefully they will add it.

[Natureguy85]

I'm so sick of people whining about what the keep doesn't cover and then putting in crap like what the Warden did with Isabella in Origins. Especially when there are a few things that could actually matter, such as the aforementioned Messenger because the epilogue implies he is spreading the taint.