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I played Dragon Age Inquisition and now worry about ME4


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#51
MEuniverse

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Fixed. Now I agree with you. Get rid of at least half of those boring MMO quests. I love the collectibles but I hate talking to NPCs who constantly tell me to just go out and find their lost animals or husband's rings (don't jerk me around in a response, you know what I'm talking about here). Remove 50% of quests and make the rest more drawn out and memorable with good characters in them just like all other Bioware games minus Mass Effect 3.

 

And also, if ME4 has the same little amount of main quests that are 2-3 hours long it's just way too short of a main quest. DA:O's main quest was probably 30-40 hours long, as was ME3's and ME2's (Loyalty quests are not side quests neither in DA:I or ME. I count them in). It's like if Feros and Noveria were just two linear 2-hour missions of guns blazing and a couple of confrontations here and there in ME1. It might be a fun ride, but it doesn't feel as expansive and it lacks the player agency of having hubs to explore and side-quests that are memorable within the main missions, like all the branching paths on how to find a pass to the Hot Labs in ME1. DA:I just doesn't have this flexibility in its main quests and it's even inferior to ME3 in the sense that ME3 had a much larger sum of action-based main quests.

 

What is there, 7 actual main quests in inquisition, each being around 1-3 hours? That's approx. 15 hours main quest. Okay, maybe it is 25-30 with all the companion conversations and romances but still, that's only 30 hours out of 80 total -- and not even all of that was fun or even well-written --, so I've spent 50 hours doing side-content, the main bulk of the game and I'd say at least half of those hours I was bored out of my mind.

What the hell!?  The 2nd line in my post (the one you quoted) is not mine, I did not write that :mellow:



#52
Xiolyrr Zoharei

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I am particularly concerned about ME 4's NPC's looking like PS2 stick figures with no sex appeal and boring side quests like escorting an invincible, slow moving druffalo back to the herd or chasing down rams for meat. While DAI is the best Dragon Age to date imo, I wholeheartedly agree with the TC.

 

The only thing that ME 4 should take from ME 3 is the combat mechanics and the art direction. Take ME 2's loyalty missions and Suicide Mission concept for the final mission. Plus being able to continue playing after we defeat the final boss with ME 1's exploration, and use that as a basis for ME 4.

 

Exclude crap like the weight limit handicap and enemies attacking you on the galaxy map from ME 3, planet scanning from ME 2, and mountainous terrain from ME 1.



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I just wonder what they plan to do next in terms of antagonist. How do you one up the Reapers? It's a big galaxy out there but can't really imagine them having a villain worse than machines that wiped out nearly all life every 50k years



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I'm with the op on this one, mostly.

 

I loved the graphics and game play of ME2 best, but liked the story in ME1 best, and over all ME1 was a much better game, in many ways than the other two, just a little shorter. ( I have to say I totally dispise Ashley Williams and Kaidan ) Mostly because of there sleazey treatment of the hero in ME2, and ME3, There actions as a friend ( Or supposed friend ) were just so sickening to me.

 

I don't need super huge maps, I thought the map's were fine in ME1, and 2, and for that part also ME3.

 

Which I finally replayed a second time all the way to the end ( actually replayed the whole trilogy ), and sort of enjoyed ME3, after installing the MEHEM mod, which did not leave me nearly as sick at the end, as My first, and only play through a couple of years ago did. NOw I can say I finally played it twice, but ME1, and ME2 I have played through at least 5 times each.

 

  I think the graphics were fine in ME3, and 2, I do not see a reason to force me to buy some new state of the art system just to play more of the same, with hopefully a better ending than ME3.

 

  I like DAI, but just like barely, it is worth buying, but too boring for me to even finish yet, I just stalled out on it, am having trouble making my self finish it ( I have trouble even understanding what I am doing in it, and emmersion is just lost a lot, and the PC controls are really screwy ).



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Casey Hudson is no longer the director of Mass Effect, he left BioWare :crying:.

Dragon Age: Inquisition isn't boring at all, I loved every bit of it.



P.S. I want the new Mass Effect to be more like ME1 not ME2 B)



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I am not really torn up about his departure. He handled the ME3 debacle poorly. I wouldn't mind CERTAIN elements from being integrated. Side missions need to match the fanfare of the main missions and be more than fetch quests and if the next ME has a war table I shouldn't be required to come back to it every other quest to advance the game. (Wireless communication is a thing in that universe)

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hello, i'm sure not everyone will agree with me, but i've recently finished DAI and also hope there are some improvements for ME4

 

- i was fairly disappointed with the DAI story... the attack on Haven and moving to Skyhold i thought was awesome, but after that, i never felt Cory was on the offensive and threatening. even if you just got advisor reports that his dragon was killing ppl or destroying towns that would make you worry. but he was just quietly searching the forest for his relics... in ME3, from the beginning you feel that you have to do your mission, get the allies and come back otherwise ppl on earth are going to die. you get Anderson and Hackett constantly telling you they're getting whipped. then when the combined fleet moved on earth it was so epic.

 

- i think ME3 multiplayer is way better than DAI. there are too many ppl rolling assassin and trying to solo tank ruining the games. in ME3 it's a lot more balanced and fun playing with randoms. i just think that DAI multi needs too much team coordination and there aren't enough features to facilitate that (e.g. guilds, text chat etc)

 

- please there must be some easy improvements on the multiplayer? 1) just some basic customisation for the appearance? 2) i'd really love to see 'multiplayer' but filling the other slots with AI (sort of like single player multiplayer). P2P hosting can be very painful quite regularly, or just having the option of having a quick game where you have no responsibility to others so you can try out play styles etc

 

- i felt DAI was too long for replayability. i created 3 characters, but after one, i haven't bothered to play the others. i just can't imagine investing another 80 hrs just to see different dialogue options and abilities. i've played all ME twice, and watching ME vids on youtube makes me want to start again from the beginning

 

- i personally didn't really love the companions in DAI. i know a lot of ppl like how their personalities varied so much and made for interesting banter... but i just thought Sera and Vivienne were so bitchy. i liked Blackwall but after the plot twist i just couldn't care for him. i felt Miranda was a ****** but too sexy and cool to hate, and i hated Jack in ME2 but then thought she was totally awesome in ME3. companions like Tali, Thane, Grunt, Liara, Garrus i thought were so awesome i would do anything for them. Cassandra was the only one i really like in DAI. this is just a personal opinion i totally understand if ppl disagree

 

slightly off topic, but i didn't mind the side quests in DAI. like everyone goes on about the ram meat, but it was to feed the refugees who couldn't go out cos the countryside was a war zone... i think that's a worthy goal even for a big time hero (and you weren't a big time hero at that stage anyway?)



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All I heard was they're integrating the Frostbite 3 engine, Mass Effect isn't going MMO open world like DA:I, it'll be an action rpg like the other three have been. IMO Mass Effect has always been different than the Dragon Age series, yes it's an RPG and great story but I feel Bioware wants Mass Effect to be their bread and butter game so more effort is put into it. Also the people who make DA and Mass Effect are different development teams. I'm not worried for ME4 until I see the end product, I love the past 3 games so I have no worries. Note: I also love the Dragon Age series, just not as much as Mass Effect. peace out!