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[Coyote X Starrk]

 

Yeah, it takes a lot of time and work to optimize the game for the old gen consoles, tweaking graphic settings and testing them but if you are going to make a sh1t with the game you are developing because you dont want to tweak and make a good setup which use all resources of the console, why you create the game for the old gen too? there is only one answer: TO MAKE MONEY USING THE CURRENT GEN ADVERTISING. i would prefer they wouldnt released a version for old gen but paying 70$ for a game which is clearly worst than a 3 or 4 years ago.. 

Or you know you could have simply waited to see what the game was like on your chosen console BEFORE you bought it. 

 

If all the advertising and video available came from systems you don't own......why on earth would you buy the game BEFORE you find out how it looks on the console that you own? 

 

Yes to a certain extent the argument can be made that Bioware underachieved on last gen but at the same exact time it can be said that part of the blame falls on you as a consumer for not doing your research. 

 

You can try and claim they fooled and failed you, but at the same time part of the blame falls at your feet for blindly purchasing the content before you truly knew what you were getting. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I am completely serious. The fact that you think I am not tells me you are lucky enough to have a Xbox One, PS4 or PC copy of the game and therefore do not understand.

 

You are aware that the consoles are unable to run the HD graphics at the higher settings, and that the game had to be optimized for the system?

 

This isn't a case of an old game being re-released on a newer system (where HD texture packs actually work.)

 

What you're asking for isn't possible.

[Sheikah]

Or you know you could have simply waited to see what the game was like on your chosen console BEFORE you bought it. 

 

If all the advertising and video available came from systems you don't own......why on earth would you buy the game BEFORE you find out how it looks on the console that you own? 

 

Yes to a certain extent the argument can be made that Bioware underachieved on last gen but at the same exact time it can be said that part of the blame falls on you as a consumer for not doing your research. 

 

You can try and claim they fooled and failed you, but at the same time part of the blame falls at your feet for blindly purchasing the content before you truly knew what you were getting. 

i didnt buy it xD i played it in a friends console since 2 days ago, watching the game very closely to decide to buy it or not as i said in many other threads, even in a deleted thread which showed up screens and it seems that bioware didnt like people to show info about the version 2 days before its release.

 

anyway, its true this version is a sh1t and if this doesnt change i wont buy it xD i was hyped for this and i really wanted to buy it because i wanted my deluxe copy but since i watched like 10 gameplay ours i think i will ask a friend to lend it to me or something xD

[Simply Divine]

Or you know you could have simply waited to see what the game was like on your chosen console BEFORE you bought it. 

 

If all the advertising and video available came from systems you don't own......why on earth would you buy the game BEFORE you find out how it looks on the console that you own? 

 

Yes to a certain extent the argument can be made that Bioware underachieved on last gen but at the same exact time it can be said that part of the blame falls on you as a consumer for not doing your research. 

 

You can try and claim they fooled and failed you, but at the same time part of the blame falls at your feet for blindly purchasing the content before you truly knew what you were getting. 

What they said.

While I am upset that Bioware wasn't more open about how the game would actually look on the PS3, I realize that I'm the one who decided to pre-order it out of excitement.

[Panda]

Bioware shouldn't make this game available for last gen. This is their mistake, not us customers who were deceived by sweet words how the difference wouldn't be big. I as customer had no idea how bad the situation would be when they refused to release any screenshots and videos, only giving us false hope with reassuring words. Bioware should work their ass-off to fix the bugs old gen and low graphic PC has. The shiny bug doesn't need to be there at all.

[Coyote X Starrk]

Bioware shouldn't make this game available for last gen. This is their mistake, not us customers who were deceived by sweet words how the difference wouldn't be big. I as customer had no idea how bad the situation would be when they refused to release any screenshots and videos, only giving us false hope with reassuring words. Bioware should work their ass-off to fix the bugs old gen and low graphic PC has. The shiny bug doesn't need to be there at all.

Like I said. 

 

The blame partially lies with Bioware, but the people who blindly purchased the game with no idea of what they were getting should get just as much blame. 

 

You should ALWAYS do your research before purchasing a game. 

[AdamJames]

I never played a game that used all the resources of my computer or console without being too warm even with very well optimized games.. and after play it i know if GTA5 wasnt well optimized, we couldnt play it on oldgen consoles

 

Err, don't get me wrong, I feel for anyone that has to play this on 360 or PS3. And for all I know, it may very well be poorly optimized (I just think your method of proving that is a bit sketchy). Bioware probably shouldn't have ported this to last-gen consoles to begin with.

[Sheikah]

Bioware shouldn't make this game available for last gen. This is their mistake, not us customers who were deceived by sweet words how the difference wouldn't be big. I as customer had no idea how bad the situation would be when they refused to release any screenshots and videos, only giving us false hope with reassuring words. Bioware should work their ass-off to fix the bugs old gen and low graphic PC has. The shiny bug doesn't need to be there at all.

they wont do it xD you wasted ur money in the game, right? so.. thats all, now fvck up yourself and cry all you want as all x360 and ps3 owners xDD they dont care about you. if they care, this game would be delayed to test and fix most bugs and tweak pc and old gen versions

[Panda]

Like I said. 

 

The blame partially lies with Bioware, but the people who blindly purchased the game with no idea of what they were getting should get just as much blame. 

 

You should ALWAYS do your research before purchasing a game. 

 

No. BW false marketed the game to us. I couldn't do any research without any screenshots and videos unlike new gen. This game is supposed to be played on new gen not last gen and BW should never made it available. All the blame is on BW and they were deceiving lot of customers and those customers have every right to be hurt.

[Coyote X Starrk]

No. BW false marketed the game to us. I couldn't do any research without any screenshots and videos unlike new gen. This game is supposed to be played on new gen not last gen and BW should never made it available. All the blame is on BW and they were deceiving lot of customers and those customers have every right to be hurt.

 

No. 

 

There is such a thing as waiting to buy a game. There is no universal law demanding that you wait in line at midnight. 

 

Bioware withheld information pre-launch which is obviously bad for Consumers.

 

However by purchasing the game on the word of the Developer alone you have made just as big of a mistake. Everyone knew that the promotion materials were from either PC, current gen, or slightly enhanced. Therefore there was no way of knowing what last gen looked like therefore you bought on faith rather than facts. 

 

It is not 100% peoples fault for not waiting until after launch to see what they were getting, but they are not 100% absolved of any blame. 

[Sheikah]

Err, don't get me wrong, I feel for anyone that has to play this on 360 or PS3. And for all I know, it may very well be poorly optimized (I just think your method of proving that is a bit sketchy). Bioware probably shouldn't have ported this to last-gen consoles to begin with.

im studying computer engineering and i learned a bit of resources use and its a fact, if you are using almost all resources, even with the most optimized program or game, the hardware will be hot because it is on its limits

 

and after that its simple, if a game does not make the x360 or ps3 hot, then its not using all resources with better or worse optimization so.. ok, we could guess this game is very well optimized, but then, there are a lot of resources the game is not using and bioware could add more things. Im horrified about the popping and even lack of textures sometimes and reading about pc problems with bugs, crashes and controls, some problems with crashes and bugs in current gen too, i think this will be very bad for biowares reputation

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

im studying computer engineering and i learned a bit of resources use and its a fact, if you are using almost all resources, even with the most optimized program or game, the hardware will be hot because it is on its limits

 

and after that its simple, if a game does not make the x360 or ps3 hot, then its not using all resources with better or worse optimization so.. ok, we could guess this game is very well optimized, but then, there are a lot of resources the game is not using and bioware could add more things. Im horrified about the popping and even lack of textures sometimes and reading about pc problems with bugs, crashes and controls, some problems with crashes and bugs in current gen too, i think this will be very bad for biowares reputation

 

Based on what you've said in this thread, you might want to look into other fields of study as a minor, or something (as a backup.)

[Hector535]

gta 5 looked and played amazing and had a bigger world. There is no excuse, if the game was next gen only then do not release it on older consoles... and only if they could have shown gameplay before but now they didn't Im still playing it though

[Sheikah]

Based on what you've said in this thread, you might want to look into other fields of study as a minor, or something (as a backup.)

because i said oldgen version is poor, badly optimized and they should fix a lot of things they can? because i said they only released this version to get money selling it with current gen advertising? yeah, for sure i should change what im studying, tell the truth is frowned.. roflmao

[Coyote X Starrk]

because i said oldgen version is poor, badly optimized and they should fix a lot of things they can? because i said they only released this version to get money selling it with current gen advertising? yeah, for sure i should change what im studying, tell the truth is frowned.. roflmao

I would take some Grammar lessons on the side.....

[Twinklesz]

Why release it on last gen consoles, and at full price no less?

[Jaizek]

YOU need to TAKE OUT THE TRASH!!

 

They Optimized the game for "today's" time, not 2005's....... We aren't using calculators anymore so start realizing that if you want TODAY's games to look good then you need to UPDATE like everyone else. Sell that Ps3 or Xbox 360 of 75 bucks and use that towards the PS4, Xbox one or better yet, A Half Decent computer. You will be happy if you take my advice and take out the trash. 

[Sheikah]

I would take some Grammar lessons on the side.....

I would like to see your spanish grammar while its not your main language and english is not mine but, wait, you understood all i wrote, right?

[Coyote X Starrk]

I would like to see your spanish grammar while its not your main language and english is not mine but, wait, you understood all i wrote, right?

Just saying that proper grammar will help people take you seriously. 

 

Otherwise you just come off as a kid that is mad about a game and is making various claims that really don't fit the level of intelligence that you are showing. 

[Sheikah]

Jajaja im not mad about the game, honestly i wont pay for playing it after i saw, i will ask a friend to lend it to me or something but i didnt say anything false until now, and im now the only one saying those things but because old gen users are complaining about a worse version than our console can manage, we should be quiet when we pay for it? And yeah i dont pay but many other people did it so, they cant demand some responses and maybe any fixes for something they payed and is clearly only a product released to make money without been a decent version? I really suggest you to look for a friend or someone who has and oldgen copy and play some ours. Then talk about this version and try to be honest, not any other current gen owner justifying bioware fails

Anyway, i know all this complains wont be read or they wont do nothing about, any old gen owner will have the same as he has at the moment

[Panda]

There is lot of irony in that these new gen players keep reassuring us that DAI will look great on old gen, just few NPC's less and lower graphics (on Skyrim level) and that we old gen players should stop complaining and asking for videos and screenshots since they are bad for marketing DAI and some new gen players could misunderstood.Now these new gen players keep telling us that we are only one's to blame for getting game on old gen and that we should stop complaining. 

 

Yes, I'm bitter as heck but that's some lame ****, get over your high horses people, your game looks gorgerous and stop putting salt on wounds of others whose game doesn't look anywhere near yours!

[CommanderWilliams]

My real problem, I suppose, is that I honestly cannot tell whether or not some of these textures are fully loaded or not. The basic sword (red handle) that you get early on, seems to have a terrible texture on it--so bad that I think it may not be properly loaded at all. If I can't tell whether or not the game is loading textures correctly, something is wrong. I'll post pictures when I get back to my room.

[ThaWitchKing]

i would love to see the textures for myself but all the voices in my game sound like they are far far away

[Vinci89]

There is lot of irony in that these new gen players keep reassuring us that DAI will look great on old gen, just few NPC's less and lower graphics (on Skyrim level) and that we old gen players should stop complaining and asking for videos and screenshots since they are bad for marketing DAI and some new gen players could misunderstood.Now these new gen players keep telling us that we are only one's to blame for getting game on old gen and that we should stop complaining. 
 
Yes, I'm bitter as heck but that's some lame ****, get over your high horses people, your game looks gorgerous and stop putting salt on wounds of others whose game doesn't look anywhere near yours!

Ok this is coming from a ps4 player who also stayed with a friend playing it on ps3 for quite some time. Just get the digital edition It's not bad at all. I don't know why I am spending so much time here repeating it. Maybe because it's not fair to harangue Bioware on "false marketing ". They might have screwed up something on the disc, I am not sure, but if you have to experience it on PS3 then Download it and it does run pretty good. BW needs to address this or people like me will sound like a positive troll. Peace out.

[CommanderWilliams]

 

Take a look at that video. Pay attention to

Leliana's armor has a terrible texture to it

5:20 to 5:30. One terrible, barely loaded texture, and then a texture that clearly isn't loaded.

Solas's entire outfit bothers me

 

This video also shows the Inquisitor in that green armor with a much better texture than my own copy.