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#226
Cyonan

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We meet again, PC vs console stupidity wars.

 

Anyways I haven't had any issues with crashes, but on a platform with an absurdly large number of different hardware setups you're bound to run into some problems and people with problems are a much more vocal crowd.

 

On a side note for PC, I'm finding that using R for auto attack is much nicer than clicking or holding the mouse button down.



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Peer of the Empire

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Lol you guys need to learn how to shop.  You are spending way too much money on PC

 

As well, I did some back of the envelope calculations a while back and yes, since PC games are often cheaper, over time a console user can spend more



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Well OP, sucks to be you because I think DA:I is probably the best game I've ever played!! And will totally be my fav. for a long time to come. :)



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Well OP, sucks to be you because I think DA:I is probably the best game I've ever played!! And will totally be my fav. for a long time to come. :)

Stop mocking people


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#230
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If not for the pc controls and bugs i'd give it a 10/10. Still it's a mighty good game.



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We meet again, PC vs console stupidity wars.

 

 

Maybe that's what the simple argument sees. But if you get down to the root of the problem console or PC alike. I think that everybody deserves a game that they like and I think that the game could have been better mechanically on both sides of the spectrum.

 

I disagree with the whole notion that hardcore RPGs can only be on the PC, because I grew up playing the consoles. I have a repsect for the PC, and to be honest there are games that I liked the PC controls on my console and never understood what people were complaining about.

 

Games like DAO, or Morrowind, or even Oblivion.

 

It didn't feel clunky on the console at all.

 

And I think that PC or console, everyone should demand a decent, amazing game. And stop pandering to games and games markets that don't do this. We need to request better games. And eventually, hopefully the industry will change for both console and PC.



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'None' of the side quests seems to be rather inaccurate based on the encounters seen in various Streams and vids. And perhaps they remind some a bit too much of elsewhere, or other quests that are not enjoyable. After a decade of NWN1, I tired of rat infestation quests. But as it appears that it is early in the campaign, the idea of the absolute 'none' appears to be in error.

And I played SWTOR solo and enjoyed my time, so this should be even better.

 

Yeah, "none" is incorrect. The real answer is quite a bit. There are also set-piece battles in that beginning zone as well as being a good reason for roving bands of baddies - you're establishing control over hostile territory. They go away as you start to control the map.

 

As for people thinking the story is weak, or generic, or non-motivating as some reviewers have stated, I can see where they're coming from. After the prologue you're more or less dumped into the Hinterlands with a plot quest that's kind of vague and power-gated, and then immediately confronted with a HUGE amount of potential side quests. And yes, some of those are fetch-quest type stuff. We're hungry, bring us meat. We're cold, bring us blankets. It's daunting and I think it does act to relegate the main plot to the shadows for a time.

 

But things clarify and the story builds as you plow through it. And those fetch quests, you have to go talk to those people, they don't demand things of you. They're not keeping you from closing rifts or establishing camps or stopping wars, or any of the more meaty things you can do to increase your power and influence.

 

IMO it's a matter of perspective and I can certainly understand those who feel a little (or a lot) detached from the plot with fetch quests. But a little persistence solves the problem.



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I'm enjoying the game so far but I've to admit that controls are painful on PC. I play both on console and computer, but my heart belongs to my PlayStation... And the first time I saw Inquisition's gameplay I said to myself 'it's time to get a PC controller, folks.'

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I really don't get the hangup about "auto-attack".   That is something that has been going away for while now ....in every type of game including MMOs and especially in action-RPGs regardless of platform.   DA:I is a mix of those so really no surprise.  I do not miss or wish I had it whatsoever.   



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Maybe that's what the simple argument sees. But if you get down to the root of the problem console or PC alike. I think that everybody deserves a game that they like and I think that the game could have been better mechanically on both sides of the spectrum.

 

I disagree with the whole notion that hardcore RPGs can only be on the PC, because I grew up playing the consoles. I have a repsect for the PC, and to be honest there are games that I liked the PC controls on my console and never understood what people were complaining about.

 

Games like DAO, or Morrowind, or even Oblivion.

 

It didn't feel clunky on the console at all.

 

And I think that PC or console, everyone should demand a decent, amazing game. And stop pandering to games and games markets that don't do this. We need to request better games. And eventually, hopefully the industry will change for both console and PC.

 

I was more taking a shot at how when something doesn't go right for one of the platforms(in this case PC), people of the other platforms have a tendency to jump in and laugh at their misfortunes and proclaim that this makes their platform of choice "superior" to all others.

 

In general I agree that if you're going to port a game to a platform, it should be a well made port.



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I was more taking a shot at how when something doesn't go right for one of the platforms(in this case PC), people of the other platforms have a tendency to jump in and laugh at their misfortunes and proclaim that this makes their platform of choice "superior" to all others.

 

In general I agree that if you're going to port a game to a platform, it should be a well made port.

 

I'm extremely gray sided here for the most part. Compared to DAO, DAI is not a good game. It's so polarizing how each game compare them side to by side, how extreme DAI is.

 

On one spectrum compare it to DAO and it just doesn't hold up.

 

On another spectrum compare it to DA2 and it's a freaking amazing game.

 

It's like DAI doesn't know its own identity at times.



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We meet again, PC vs console stupidity wars.

 

 

i remember gaming on a PC. i had a pager than too.  :D

 

LOL jk PC gamers. please don't hack me


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Game is awesome IMO. Easily GOTY for me. The controls are a problem and I have stutter issues on PC but outside that, it's an amazing game. Nothing a patch can't fix.



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Oh come on, it's not THAT bad.

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i remember gaming on a PC. i had a pager than too.  :D

 

 

LOL



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Spankatola

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i remember gaming on a PC. i had a pager than too.  :D

 

LOL jk PC gamers. please don't hack me

 

I remember gaming on a console. I had homework and Prom then, too.



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Lol you guys need to learn how to shop.  You are spending way too much money on PC

 

As well, I did some back of the envelope calculations a while back and yes, since PC games are often cheaper, over time a console user can spend more

 

For the record I am playing this on a 4+ year old PC I built for $700 or so, so it's not some amazingly high cost version. I would guess I'll have to upgrade for Witcher 3 though.



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Lol you guys need to learn how to shop.  You are spending way too much money on PC

 

 

So there's this, and then there are the people telling us we should buy controllers to make the game easier. That may be true, and I may be tired of running into open doors to get out of a room, but I'll be damned if I'm going to spend another $20 (at least) on top of the $70 I spent on the game.

 

No matter what platform, no one should have trouble controlling their character's movement. It's the most illogical thing I've ever seen and every time something dumb happens because I can't use a mouse I'm snapped out of the game. Kudos to the people who are getting used to the controls or are finding ways around them, but I'm not there and I think they're dumb. (The controls, not the people.)


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So you're forming an opinion before you actually play the game?  Interesting

No not really, or at least I'm trying not to, but I am concerned with the general direction the gaming market seems to be going, and so I wouldn't be surprised if many of the negative comments are correct. That's all I'm saying.



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I'm getting a refund because of the controls.

No matter how amazing the game if it's not fun in combat what is the point?

I don't want to have to mash a button constantly and chase down enemies.

 

Combat was fun on PC in DA2 - Why change it to be tedious?



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No not really, or at least I'm trying not to, but I am concerned with the general direction the gaming market seems to be going, and so I wouldn't be surprised if many of the negative comments are correct. That's all I'm saying.

 

Not surprising. I told a friend of mine in Europe about the controls and the first thing he said was, "Sounds like a really bad port."



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I think this is the best game of 2014. It lacks some features of DAO, but it also has more and some better features than DAO. Overall it's a superior game by far.

 

I'm playing on PC, using highly customised controls. Indeed, I'm playing it like an ARPG, and it's actually working out fairly well even on Nightmare.

 

I also totally rebound my Steelseries mouse. Just create a custom profile for DAI.

 

Here's a guide on controls: http://forum.bioware...control-scheme/



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I'm about 20 hours in. So far I'm slightly disappointed, nothing major just lot's of little things seem to be putting me off. The controls feel sluggish, in game text and subtitles are hard to read, story is just ok IMO. I'm playing on PS3 so that might have something to do with it not sure. I'm one of the few people who loved DA2, but so far Inquisition is just not grabbing me like the other titles did.



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Yes, Bioware said "it's going to be more like Origins for those who liked that, don't worry" but at the same time a LOT of people at Bioware prefered the changes to the core gameplay of DAII so secretly the agenda was always "We're moving forward, not back to roots" but even still it does have some more of what people liked about Origins, but it retains the swiftness and action-y style of DAII.

 

I think anyone who's been watching the latest Con Presentations from Bioware on Youtube should've been ready for what exactly DA:I was gonna be. After ME3, I'm no longer gonna sit with my own dream-picture of what I want it to be only to set myself up for a disappointment at launch. I instead follow the hype-train seeing most trailers and gameplay footage ahead of time so I know what to expect.

 

Instead of reacting with first impressions like: "uuuuurh, why is this not like it used to be, uuurh why am I playing something that isn't Dragon Age Origins 2 BOOOOO" I'll take it for what it is and not for what it isn't.

 

DAII and ME3 taught Bioware fans to expect less next time. Anyone who played either should've been taught that by now, lol.



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Lol you guys need to learn how to shop.  You are spending way too much money on PC

That's not entirely true. I bought my PC three years ago (and I can still play all new games coming out), which is just about the same time period a new consoles get released. Plus, games are cheaper. Maybe next year I'll invest in a new pc, and last I checked, I'll be able to play DA:I almost maxed out.