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#301
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How can anyone with eyes actually think this? I mean really...this forum has some of the most delusional people on earth. Adapt you whiny asshats. Dragon Age Inquisition is DRAGON AGE INQUISITION. It's controls aren't meant to be exactly like another game. Anyone who thinks this is an abomination of a controller scheme has never played an MMORPG or is purposely being dense. I really hope Bioware doesn't listen to the people who will complain about any and everything if given the slightest opportunity when determining if they should make games like this. This is the best game bioware has made in a longgggg time, yet still people want to drag it down for tiny flaws...

 

It's really..really..pathetic.

Combat-wise, DA:I is the best of the three.  But it has other issues, at least for old gen owners.  



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Combat-wise, DA:I is the best of the three.  But it has other issues, at least for old gen owners.  

I was referencing her saying the Dragon age origins cutscenes, and character looks were better...i mean you have to be such a Dragon age Origins fanboy that you are completely blinded to look at both games and say that, irregardless of whether or not you think Origins was way better. This thread can be described with one word.

 

Salt.

 

This is coming from someone who has over 200 hours played on DAO...but I still have eyes, and sense, and haven't developed a hatred of bioware/EA that has completely engulfed any sensibilities i have.


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I was referencing her saying the Dragon age origins cutscenes, and character looks were better...i mean you have to be such a Dragon age Origins fanboy that you are completely blinded to look at both games and say that, irregardless of whether or not you think Origins was way better. This thread can be described with one word.

 

Salt.

 

This is coming from someone who has over 200 hours played on DAO...but I still have eyes, and sense, and haven't developed a hatred of bioware/EA that has completely engulfed any sensibilities i have.

 

You may have eye's but are you quite sure you are wearing them,  or have you left them on the mantelpiece again?



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Yo kogmaw, you're not supposed to clear an entire area from the get go, some parts are blocked due to story progression, others just have big bad HIGH level mobs that you can't kill yet, so go do some other stuff in other areas and keep going up.

 

Would have been cool if the game told me that, especially since the last two games were the complete opposite. 



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I hate the pc controls for combat but I'm really enjoying the game regardless. ^__^ I'm sure they'll tweak things in time. Until then, I'm sort of used to it now.



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 This is the best game bioware has made in a longgggg time, yet still people want to drag it down for tiny flaws...

 

It's really..really..pathetic.

 

Without getting into the major issues (PC controls, not Tactics, non-functional tac-cam, dweeby hairstyles, bugs like your voice being changed), how are the RPG elements, in this, "the best game BW has made in a longggg time"?

 

- classes with no customization concerning weapon choices (why no DW warrior, etc.... it's 2014, when most games are expanding your class choices, BW is cutting the choices down)

- items have no descriptions... does this bother noone? You could read up on every item, from Baldur's Gate to DA:Origins to Dark Souls... it added lore and immersion... gone in DA:I

- your character has no background (which is fine, Origins was special in that regard), but the bigger problem is that most NPCs have no background either.

They're all sorta forced on you, and it feels very awkward and it's very hard to care for these characters.

Cass and Josephine and Leliana and Cullen are just there, HI!!, we the Inquisition yo... 2 hours of Origins had more soul and spirit than the 20 I've put into Inquisition

- no Stat leveling

- less item slots (no more Arms and Feet slots, now they're on your armor because, I dunno, it's easier to pull of graphically)

- no pickpocketing, persuasion, etc

- etc

 

...

 

They threw money into beautiful graphics and a huge world.

They gameplay itself, and the RPG elements and even the writing? A step back from DA2, and a massive step back from DA:Origins.


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Without getting into the major issues (PC controls, not Tactics, non-functional tac-cam, dweeby hairstyles, bugs like your voice being changed), how are the RPG elements, in this, "the best game BW has made in a longggg time"?

 

- classes with no customization concerning weapon choices (why no DW warrior, etc.... it's 2014, when most games are expanding your class choices, BW is cutting the choices down)

- items have no descriptions... does this bother noone? You could read up on every item, from Baldur's Gate to DA:Origins to Dark Souls... it added lore and immersion... gone in DA:I

- your character has no background (which is fine, Origins was special in that regard), but the bigger problem is that most NPCs have no background either.

They're all sorta forced on you, and it feels very awkward and it's very hard to care for these characters.

Cass and Josephine and Leliana and Cullen are just there, HI!!, we the Inquisition yo... 2 hours of Origins had more soul and spirit than the 20 I've put into Inquisition

- no Stat leveling

- less item slots (no more Arms and Feet slots, now they're on your armor because, I dunno, it's easier to pull of graphically)

- no pickpocketing, persuasion, etc

- etc

 

...

 

They threw money into beautiful graphics and a huge world.

They gameplay itself, and the RPG elements and even the writing? A step back from DA2, and a massive step back from DA:Origins.

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Just like the guy you quoted. 

 

Stating your opinion is one thing, but there really is no point is downplaying someone elses opinion just because you disagree. I myself have enjoyed the game immensely so far and like the RPG elements that are in place. For me the game is a 10/10 so far. There are a few scruples I have, but that is the case for any game ever made. I am getting alot of enjoyment out of it and that is the point of a good game. 

 

There is no single defining opinion when it comes to a game other than your own. If you enjoy it, then enjoy regardless of what other people say about it. If you dislike it, then move on to find a game that better fits what it is that you are seeking. 



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Also the cut scenes don't give me the tingles as they did in previous DA titles.  They are not done with as much attention to detail or feeling.


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I play on PC, and my game has crashed once in 25 hours...

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I play on PC, and my game has crashed once in 25 hours...

 

About the same hours here  and  its only crashed once for me and that was when running the benchmark.  I often just leave the game running to go out to dinner, etc and its never crashed or anything.



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BioWare never once promised you it was going to be like DA:O or even DA2, they said they was taking elements from both games and adding further new elements.

 

By sounds of it you read and heard what you wanted and never once understood anything being told

 

You are correct. They however promised a lot of things - some of them they named specificly ( push to talk, chat for MP ).

Also the PC port is anything but funtional and they kinda claimed that the PC is not just a port - 

 

Soo yeah we do have the right to be disapointed. Im happy you are not - quite a few of us are.

 

 

Also how are everyone enjoing the new and improved and very "streamlined" tactics ? Hope you like how functunal and fluid they are - couse for me they dont do jack. So casual here i come.


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You are correct. They however promised a lot of things - some of them they named specificly ( push to talk, chat for MP ).

Also the PC port is anything but funtional and they kinda claimed that the PC is not just a port - 

 

Soo yeah we do have the right to be disapointed. Im happy you are not - quite a few of us are.

 

 

Also how are everyone enjoing the new and improved and very "streamlined" tactics ? Hope you like how functunal and fluid they are - couse for me they dont do jack. So casual here i come.

 

I'm thoroughly enjoying the game and it's tactic.  I'm not at all disappointed with this game.   Have you emailed them your complaint?



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Would have been cool if the game told me that, especially since the last two games were the complete opposite. 

 

For some people "not knowing" is part of the fun. See Dark Souls.


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BioWare never once promised you it was going to be like DA:O or even DA2, they said they was taking elements from both games and adding further new elements.

 

By sounds of it you read and heard what you wanted and never once understood anything being told

 

Yep, and instead of taking the best of both (of which DA2 had very little to offer, let's face it), they've taken the worst of both, thrown away all remaining goodness that might have somehow been lucky enough to slip the attention of the obviously moronic game designers, and then crippled it with what must the be single worst controller structure ever designed for any PC game (and I play Skyrim! So that's saying a lot considering how bad Skyrim's controls are). At least with DA2 you could, years after the game's release, mod it sufficiently to make it moderately playable and then go ahead and enjoy the story. DAI is pretty much unplayable. What you get are controls, cameras, and combat systems which simply don't function at all. Tactics are gone. Basically it's now a game for the button-mashing ADHD early-teen crowd. And sure, that crowd deserves great games oriented towards them, I'm not saying they don't. However there are already a TON of games designed for that group, and very FEW well done RPGs. That's what DAO was, it's what DA2 should have been, and it's exactly what Bioware kept promising, over and over again, that DAI would be again (well, the promised it would work for both crowds, basically).

 

Instead what we got is a complete travesty.

 

What a freaking joke of a product. Like DA2, there are so many problems I can't even begin to get into the storyline, but unlike DA2 these problems will probably never be fixed by modders, as the ability to mod is apparently completely gone...



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Basically it's now a game for the button-mashing ADHD early-teen crowd.

 

Sweet...I can feel young again!


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I keep seeing people say, "no stat leveling"

 

Have you guys not noticed that the stat leveling is now incorporated in the skill choices?  I think it's rather interesting to handle it in such a way.  You now have to choose between powering skills/abilities or passives with stat bonus.  This adds a new dynamic to the depth of the char builds imo.



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I like good graphics @ 60fps, 1080p.  You still can't get this on 95% of console games.  Fact.

 

I like 120 fps.  I mean that the consolers are claiming PCs cost $2.5k.  You don't need to spend $2.5k

 

Some smart, miserly shopping and compromising on quality will get one down to ~$700



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That's not entirely true. I bought my PC three years ago (and I can still play all new games coming out), which is just about the same time period a new consoles get released. Plus, games are cheaper. Maybe next year I'll invest in a new pc, and last I checked, I'll be able to play DA:I almost maxed out.

 

I mean the consolers claiming we all have to spend $2.5k

 

PC master race!


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BioWare,
I was one of the faithful, I suffered through Dragon Age 2, and hoped 3/Inquisition was going to be better - you'd promised me that it was. You promised me that it was going to be like Origins, and not the combat mess that 2 was. Well, with controls, no real tactical combat, and a point and Diablo click with buttons, without being able to toggle auto run, or move with a mouse. You have delivered a steaming piece of ****. Absolute ****.
Are you guys happy with this steaming control mess that you've made? Are you happy knowing that you guys went from being my number 1 game design company, to the absolute worst company ever?
The fact that you somehow belched this control scheme into existence, that you made a complete mess of a game world that WAS SO PERFECT WITH DRAGON AGE ORIGINS. You turned a beautiful PC game, into Skyrim, without the controls, without the sense and feel of a tactical rpg, and whats worse was - you marketed it as a spiritual successor to DA1/O.
How you guys even call yourselves Bioware anymore, I have no idea. Thanks for ruining it, between this, ME3, and DA2 I've lost all faith in your company.

 

Thank you.



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While some complaints are valid, I think people stop themselves from embracing the change, so they can whine at will. A lot of people are like that, the same that can't admit they like a catchy pop song.

Play the game for what it is, not for what you want it to be, you'll love it. The only exception to the whining (unless it is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism) is the KBM controls; seems like that will be corrected for those users.

Bugs are bugs, but on a design perspective, say it once, with respect, then walk away. No point in making 45 responses saying the same thing after 3 days, get your money back, and move on. You won't be missed.

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I wish I had more time to play. I'm not even out of Haven yet and I started playing Monday night. Damn full time job and all. I actually like DA2 for what it is. It's clearly rushed and disappointing in some areas, but it's fine. It's a fun break and easy to play. Origins is, IMO, a far superior game, but I don't know enough about Inquisition to form any kind of judgment about the game itself, aside from my difficulty getting used to the controls.

 

 

 

People are saying that it takes awhile for the meat of the story to really kick in, and that reminds me of Act 1 of DA2. I was wandering around Kirkwall for ages and on a few occasions forgot why I was doing any of these damn quests. Hopefully it'll start soon, otherwise it sounds more like the spiritual successor to Skyrim instead of Origins.

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition a spirtual successor to Skyrim, or any Elder Scrolls game for that matter? Not a chance. I'm not getting an Elder Scrolls vibe at all. Are these comparisons being drawn because there are side quests, you can gather materials and the zones are quite large (keyword here is zones)? I don't understand how a game that's not even truly open world and has a rigid class system (as in you're stuck with the class you initially select) could ever be considered a spirtual successor to Skyrim.

 

With that said, I understand the point you were trying to make. This isn't just directed at you, but the community in general.



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Dragon Age: Inquisition a spirtual successor to Skyrim, or any Elder Scrolls game for that matter? Not a chance. I'm not getting an Elder Scrolls vibe at all. Are these comparisons being drawn because there are side quests, you can gather materials and the zones are quite large (keyword here is zones)? I don't understand how a game that's not even truly open world and has a rigid class system (as in you're stuck with the class you initially select) could ever be considered a spirtual successor to Skyrim.
 
With that said, I understand the point you were trying to make. This isn't just directed at you, but the community in general.


Just a reminder that Skyrim is also in zones; one large zone with Vanilla, and another added with the Dragonborn DLC. The game is quite large, but I hear that so are some of the zones in DAI, and it has multiple numbers of them.

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I know this will sound trivial, because I am sure a lot of people never read them, perhaps many never even notice them, but the lack of item descriptions is a sure sign that this game was shipped because of a deadline and not because it was finished.



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Without getting into the major issues (PC controls, not Tactics, non-functional tac-cam, dweeby hairstyles, bugs like your voice being changed), how are the RPG elements, in this, "the best game BW has made in a longggg time"?

 

- items have no descriptions... does this bother noone? You could read up on every item, from Baldur's Gate to DA:Origins to Dark Souls... it added lore and immersion... gone in DA:I

- your character has no background (which is fine, Origins was special in that regard), but the bigger problem is that most NPCs have no background either.

 

Correction: Your character does have a background. You can shape the specifics of that background. Are you a daring mercenary who hated his captain and blew up a bridge? Are you a budding Andrastian? and so on

 

Also, correction: Item descriptions vanished in DA2, not DAI. I miss them too, but let's not ascribe blame to DAI for this.

 

 

They're all sorta forced on you, and it feels very awkward and it's very hard to care for these characters.

Cass and Josephine and Leliana and Cullen are just there, HI!!, we the Inquisition yo... 2 hours of Origins had more soul and spirit than the 20 I've put into Inquisition

 

Well, they did form it without you. It's gonna be kinda hard for you to tell them to leave in that aspect.

 

 

- less item slots (no more Arms and Feet slots, now they're on your armor because, I dunno, it's easier to pull of graphically)

 

I thought that was something they had you get down the line as an upgrade through Cullen (the leg and hand slots).

 

I'm all for critiquing DAI. Hell, I'm willing to bet that's the first thing I'm going to do once my copy gets here. But let's critique it on things that make sense, shall we?



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How can anyone with eyes actually think this? I mean really...this forum has some of the most delusional people on earth. Adapt you whiny asshats. Dragon Age Inquisition is DRAGON AGE INQUISITION. It's controls aren't meant to be exactly like another game. Anyone who thinks this is an abomination of a controller scheme has never played an MMORPG or is purposely being dense. I really hope Bioware doesn't listen to the people who will complain about any and everything if given the slightest opportunity when determining if they should make games like this. This is the best game bioware has made in a longgggg time, yet still people want to drag it down for tiny flaws...

 

It's really..really..pathetic.

Someone replaced his brains with fanboyism here.

 

At least your last sentence is spot-on - it just doesn't apply to the person you think.


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