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[Razyx]

Lots of fanboyism in this thread. 
 
Kepp up the good work, troops. Keep on fighting those falling Metacritic scores! 

Keep on smashing keys man.

[Ayleid]

Well if you read them many below 5 reviews on metacritic have very good reasons behind them ... some as expected are utter nonsense 

Also you haven't notice many 10/10 reviews which are utter nonsense as well? Like some EA/Bioware bot trying to praise the game ...

Judging by the general score it's wrong i agree but if you read some reviews there you can discriminate the bad and good out of the constructive reviews ... not all people are trolls or mindless ragers 

People mentioning severe bugs that impair gameplay, clunky PC controls and DA:Oblivion seem pretty legit to me 

Also let's be real if you start a franchise with so much praise and then deviate from the style you got praised for then it's only reasonable that some people will be mad at you ... let alone if the new style isn't all that good to begin with .. and personally i m very happy about it even if i disagree with those opinions cause some people has opinion that wont change for a brand 

[mikeymoonshine]

So many of these low scorers are mentioning how bad the story is, I doubt many of these people have had the time to play through much of it yet (if they played it at all). They have obviously just seen that some critics said the story was weak, It's hilarious how dedicated haters can be sometimes. 

[Sully13]

[Rawgrim]

Well if you read them many below 5 reviews on metacritic have very good reasons behind them ... some as expected are utter nonsense 

Also you haven't notice many 10/10 reviews which are utter nonsense as well? Like some EA/Bioware bot trying to praise the game ...

Judging by the general score it's wrong i agree but if you read some reviews there you can discriminate the bad and good out of the constructive reviews ... not all people are trolls or mindless ragers 

People mentioning severe bugs that impair gameplay, clunky PC controls and DA:Oblivion seem pretty legit to me 

Also let's be real if you start a franchise with so much praise and then deviate from the style you got praised for then it's only reasonable that some people will be mad at you ... let alone if the new style isn't all that good to begin with .. and personally i m very happy about it even if i disagree with those opinions cause some people has opinion that wont change for a brand 

 

Agreed. 0/10 is just dumb. 10/10 is blind fanboyism.

[LEXX]

I have read most negatives reviews from metacritic.  Sure it doesn't deserver 0/10.  That's just stupid.  But the main overwhelm converns so far is that this game been consolized.  I was so hyped for this but no longer wanting to get this anytime soon.  I wished they would release a demo for us to try out and prove me wrong. 

[Rawgrim]

I have read most negatives reviews from metacritic.  Sure it doesn't deserver 0/10.  That's just stupid.  But the main overwhelm converns so far is that this game been consolized.  I was so hyped for this but no longer wanting to get this anytime soon.  I wished they would release a demo for us to try out and prove me wrong. 

 

They did. You had to pay for EA access to get it. In other words: EA charged money for a demo.

[CIA]

To be fair, if you read some of the negative reviews, they have good points. This doesn't deserve a 5 point score though.

[Rawgrim]

To be fair, if you read some of the negative reviews, they have good points. This doesn't deserve a 5 point score though.

 

I'd bet on a 6-7 score overall.

[zMataxa]

I'm gonna go the optimist route here with betting.

When the story comes to an end and everyone finds their way to play through DAI after all the hype and expectations are settled,

I'm hoping it settles in at an 8.7 or so.

[Blackstork]

I think those people come from competitors and do it on puprose. 

[Torrential]

I'd bet on a 6-7 score overall.

 

I am fairly harsh on my games, as in i'd rarely give a game a 9, and only probably twice in my life given them a 10.

Early game - I would score it a 7, knowing it is an open world game I am playing it like one and reviewing it like one. For me it's not the story/characters at all that hold it back, it's the UI being on the segregated (non integrated) side, this sums up the tactical camera too, they feel like their own bits of the UI rather than it being a complete package. Combat is okay but nothing to rave about, the AI is on the better side however.

Quests - More indication that people could have skipped fetch quests would have helped the game's reviews. I do them, but only when the mood strikes me, thus I seem to enjoy my game more.

Little things like being able to fast travel to the chantry not just the keep would help with the pacing, definitely a couple more big events happening independent of the player would have helped the early game's momentum. - DLC material perhaps?

 

[Rawgrim]

I am fairly harsh on my games, as in i'd rarely give a game a 9, and only probably twice in my life given them a 10.

Early game - I would score it a 7, knowing it is an open world game I am playing it like one and reviewing it like one. For me it's not the story/characters at all that hold it back, it's the UI being on the segregated (non integrated) side, this sums up the tactical camera too, they feel like their own bits of the UI rather than it being a complete package. Combat is okay but nothing to rave about, the AI is on the better side however.

Quests - More indication that people could have skipped fetch quests would have helped the game's reviews. I do them, but only when the mood strikes me, thus I seem to enjoy my game more.

Little things like being able to fast travel to the chantry not just the keep would help with the pacing, definitely a couple more big events happening independent of the player would have helped the early game's momentum. - DLC material perhaps?

 

 

7 is the highest score it will get from me. I am docking 3 points for the cartoony combat, and the over-simplified level up system.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Reviews are always a problem. Reviewing is inherently subjective, making its informative value limited even at the best of times. Add in the lack of integrity in professional videogame reviewing, and the propensity for internet haters to come out of the woodwork with an agenda, and its really hard to trust anything to read online. The professionals tend to gush over mediocre games, and the internet shouters hate everything. I figure if you balance out the effusive praise and the frothing internet hate, you will usually find the truth lurking somewhere in between, you just have to screen out the yelling at either end of the spectrum.

[Elhanan]

7 is the highest score it will get from me. I am docking 3 points for the cartoony combat, and the over-simplified level up system.

And as one that will try to never utilize metacritic for info, I would only dock DAI one pt for all of that. I miss my Player's choice and personal ways of designing characters, and will seek to lessen the FX on Settings. Still does not make the game avg to me.

Plus it is great we seem to have more FX settings than ever to tailor the game to our ideas.

[Stevensanr]

Well, if you slap the PC guys in the face with an awful console port, and not bother to try out your game, before you want to sell it, you get a "five" on metacritic.

 

No pressure.

 

I am waiting for my Reatil PC preorder. I am excited to play the new Bioware shooter.

Really i am a big fan of the series, so i cant wait for the launch here. But i am sure now, when i didnt play, i need a patch, because it's PC.

They didnt sell it on consoles only support KB/M controls, so they souldn't sell it on PC in this beta form.

[Rawgrim]

Well, if you slap the PC guys in the face with an awful console port, and not bother to try out your game, before you want to sell it, you get a "five" on metacritic.

 

No pressure.

 

I am waiting for my Reatil PC preorder. I am excited to play the new Bioware shooter.

Really i am a big fan of the series, so i cant wait for the launch here. But i am sure now, when i didnt play, i need a patch, because it's PC.

They didnt sell it on consoles only support KB/M controls, so they souldn't sell it on PC in this beta form.

 

They shouldn't have kept telling PC players that the PC version wasn't consolified, and that it played just as well as the previous games did. Seen Bioware say this often right here on the boards, when PC players have asked about the PC version.

[Klory]

They shouldn't have kept telling PC players that the PC version wasn't consolified, and that it played just as well as the previous games did. Seen Bioware say this often right here on the boards, when PC players have asked about the PC version.

Same old developer lie. Bioware is not the first or last studio to do this. Developers don't say that they spent more time and money making the next gen version run fluidly (ha!) and that they didn't give pc the attention they deserved. They also couldn't always be bothered to get enough people to test the games on all platforms properly - and then make changes based on those tests.

 

Here in DA:I we here that the UI and movement is specifically designed for pc and that if we hate it we should get a controller. I'm sure that we'll also hear that those guys with min spec systems shouldn't be surprised that the game runs so poorly because it is so "advanced" that they and ps3 couldn't be given an option to decrease visual distance and actor and object fade. Can't play it on min specs on low on pc? Upgrade or get a console.

 

We should just accept developer laziness as a given these days...or get a console . I mean pc gamers are now once again the largest segment of the dedicated gaming market. Clearly we must  all be selfish by not helping Microsoft and Sony sell more consoles . Microsoft needs you badly

[K3m0sabe]

After finally having put more hours down playing the game and reading how many people are having the same complaints about the game, poor story (even DA2 managed to do a better job at pacing and characters), stripped down tactical view, bad controls, horrible console UI, ridiculously bad side quests, silly bugs and performance issues all around... i can only surmise that the "legit" reviewers working for sites and publications did a horrible job at informing the playerbase of the state of the game, they either did it with an agenda or simply are bad professionals in their field. 

[Farangbaa]

'Oh God no walk toggle. Game is broken, can't immerse' 0/10

 

Some people.

[Gigamantis]

EA has a very dedicated network of haters.  User reviews on anything published by EA can be completely disregarded at this point.  It sucks because Bioware has made a lot of fantastic games that get consistently lambasted by these haters to the point where many people online start believing they're actually horrible games.

 

People need to stick to professional reviews if they want a real assessment of the game.  User reviews are just what you look at to validate your own hatred of EA, if you're one of those people. 

[JJDrakken]

EA has a very dedicated network of haters.  User reviews on anything published by EA can be completely disregarded at this point.  It sucks because Bioware has made a lot of fantastic games that get consistently lambasted by these haters to the point where many people online start believing they're actually horrible games.

 

People need to stick to professional reviews if they want a real assessment of the game.  User reviews are just what you look at to validate your own hatred of EA, if you're one of those people. 

 

Yes Professional reviews which normally are bought by the company to begin with in the most industries.  I value everyday honest gamer's opinions then I do opinion of "Professional Reviewers".  Key word though for that is honest, that's something you'll have a hard time finding anymore.

[K3m0sabe]

 

People need to stick to professional reviews if they want a real assessment of the game.  

 

This is probably one of the most ridiculous things i have ever read here on the forums, and thats saying a lot. 

[Elhanan]

They shouldn't have kept telling PC players that the PC version wasn't consolified, and that it played just as well as the previous games did. Seen Bioware say this often right here on the boards, when PC players have asked about the PC version.

Personally, I do not believe it is, but dislike the notion that the PC version was 'balanced' with consoles in mind. As we cannot play across platforms, I have little idea why this is the case; simply wish my Quickbar had more than eight slots.

But again, even with my small list of personal grievances, I will not tank a game, the Devs, or publishers. And I refuse to utilize sites like this that enable that mindset. At the very least, proof of purchase should be made before one can offer a User review. Poor opinions and scores would still exist, as would poor writing in reviews, but this would seem to insure that they were willing to pay for the privilege.

[mikeymoonshine]

Yes Professional reviews which normally are bought by the company to begin with in the most industries.  I value everyday honest gamer's opinions then I do opinion of "Professional Reviewers".  Key word though for that is honest, that's something you'll have a hard time finding anymore.

 

I don't think it's necessarily a matter of them being bought. I think it's more about fear of getting on the wrong side of certain big developers, you can get blacklisted easily for bashing a game these days and games journalism generally doesn't pay that much to begin with. Sure their is sometimes Payola and dodgy dealings but if you look at the way most sites review these days, anything under 7 is considered quite bad. That is because almost everything that is AAA gets a high score. 

 

Most of the reviews I have read have been quite balanced. Very few people were praising the game to the heavens, yes it did very well but it did not go without criticism. 

 

Of course we should not blindly trust the critics but I really honestly do not think we should be taking any of these user reviews all that seriously either. It is far too early for anyone who didn't get the game early to get a good enough impression of it. Yes first impressions are important as are some of the concerns but these aren't reviews of the full game, they are concerns about parts of it. 

 

There are a lot of people who were holding off until user reviews because of being burnt by past games and there are also a lot of people who very obviously want to see Bioware and EA fail. These people have just as much bias as any payed off critic does, they want to see the game fail and they know many are on the fence and wont trust the critics after what happened with DA2 and ME3. 

 

So basically, don't trust anyone entirely.