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[Kaiyen Sciratim]

So by heresay, the somewhat common problem of getting a black screen on startup of DA:Inquisition is because of having lower than 4 cores in the CPU.

 

The question would be: why does DA:I require 4 cores, while Battlefield 4 (which also runs on the Frostbite 3 Engine) only requires 2 cores as minimum?

 

Why does Bioware or EA not want a significant portion of PC owners to play their game?

 

Now, the problem could actually not be core-related. People with quadcores are also reporting similar bugs with the game startup. But if it is truly a CPU issue, this would be a pretty major  scenario.

 

Nobody expects the QuadCore Inquisition.

Modifié par BioWareMod02, 18 novembre 2014 - 10:04 .

[Pen-N-Paper]

Meanwhile, in Africa.....

[JohnnyR0xx0rz]

I have intermittant black screens on start up with a core i-5 2500k @ 3.4ghz.  So I doubt is a core issue. 

[Jaizek]

Meanwhile, in Africa.....

Well put...

[Weltnoir]

Except that it has been published for a significant amount of time that it is a requirement.  I would think people, over time, would want software developers to better utilize the system hardware that is available.  I think this is a damned if you do and damn if you don't situation.  People would be complaining if the next game out the pipe looks like something developed for a PC that is 5-6 years olds.

 

But yes, from a wide proliferation standpoint, a software developer aims low.  For more bells and whistles, however, you have to aim high.

 

BTW It is now common for smartphones to have quadcore processors.  So, I think a desktop having a quadcore may not be an unreasonable expectation.

[SpaceV3gan]

This 4 cores requirement must be a hoax or misunderstanding of some sort. I have a quad core and I cannot play the game past the opening screen. On the other hand, there could be dual core players playing the game as we speak, but they simply would not spend time on the forum today if their game works well.

[Kantr]

I've had a black screen on a hex core. 

[Kaiyen Sciratim]

My problem is that I am relegated to playing on my old laptop with no desktops to my avail. And it would likely be impossible to just upgrade the CPU on my machine.

[Kaiyen Sciratim]

Oh, and also, it would seem strange to have a game that can even start without meeting minimum specs. Plus, I would venture to say that people often look at the Hz on the processor requirements, not the number of cores, so this would be a shock to many.

[Jaizek]

I'm running the game so far with no issues *knock on wood* and i am running on my: intel quad core 17-2700 cpu @ 3.50Ghz.

Only thing i'm having a stupid issue with is the Mouse size on anything higher then 1080 res. This mouse pointer is Too Damn Small!!

[Deathangel008]

lol, you really cant complain that a game released in the end of 2014 doesnt run on 2008´s midrange-CPUs/current office-CPUs.

[tmp7704]

lol, you really cant complain that a game released in the end of 2014 doesnt run on 2008´s midrange-CPUs/current office-CPUs.

To be fair 2 core CPUs make for ~48% of the player base so it's a significant chunk of income to pass on. At the same time though precisely because it's such a large group I don't think they chose to exclude it merely to "**** the poor".

[Deathangel008]

To be fair 2 core CPUs make for ~48% of the player base so it's a significant chunk of income to pass on.

dualcores like the old Core2Duo or current Celeron/Pentium with 2 threads, or dualcores like the Core i3 with 4 threads?

[Kaiyen Sciratim]

@tmp7704 hey thanks for the stats! I didn't even think about looking at Steam's hardware data. Although, I would say that not all Steam users have steam for the triple A titles, so the CPU specs don't matter to them as much, so EA/Bioware would likely not be pandering to them anyway.

 

What I don't understand is why they were not able to work the game engine to function on a dual core, given another triple A title from the same publisher was able. I suspect it has something to do with the DRM, which would also explain the bug is affecting those that meet specs too.

 

In any case, I doubt the devs chose to exclude dualcore owners out of spite. But the end result is still the same.

 

And yes, @deathangel008, I can expect a 2014 game to run minimally on 2009 hardware. Why should the CPU cores affect the running of the game so much?

[Chrillze]

Meanwhile, in Africa.....

Look up the fallacy of relative privation.

[Coyote X Starrk]

Talk about first world problems....

[tmp7704]

dualcores like the old Core2Duo or current Celeron/Pentium with 2 threads, or dualcores like the Core i3 with 4 threads?

Hard to say; there's breakdown by cpu speed but little else. Valve may have data about actual cpu types but they seemingly aren't sharing that with general public.

[2002whitegt]

dualcores like the old Core2Duo or current Celeron/Pentium with 2 threads, or dualcores like the Core i3 with 4 threads?

This x1000! My brother has an older corei3 550 dual core with hyperthreading, and he wanted to know if he could play the game.

[Incunabulum]

So by heresay, the somewhat common problem of getting a black screen on startup of DA:Inquisition is because of having lower than 4 cores in the CPU.

 

. . .

 

Now, the problem could actually not be core-related. People with quadcores are also reporting similar bugs with the game startup. But if it is truly a CPU issue, this would be a pretty major "F**k the poor" scenario.

 

Nobody expects the QuadCore Inquisition.

1.  If you have a dual-core CPU - you're not poor.

 

2.  You're bitching about this being a '**** the poor' scenario - while admitting that you don't actually know why they made this decision.

 

3.  Steam's hardware survey is showing that almost half its users have quad-core CPU's.  Seems to me that its a sound marketing decision.  Those with dual-core CPU's are probably also using less capable graphics cards also.  Bioware can only add so many low-res texture packs.

 

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

[Kaiyen Sciratim]

1. If I am on a bioware forum posting about a video game, I am technically not poor. However, that ignores the situation that those with inferior hardware are generally not as wealthy as those with superior hardware.

 

2. It doesn't really matter the developer's reasoning, when the end result is to alienate nearly 50% of PC users from their game. The generally poorer 50%.

 

3. I doubt graphics are the reason multiple cores and threads are required. Battlefield 4 runs on the same engine and arguably has similar graphical quality. Something else (probably the DRM) is the cause for the CPU requirement.

[Coyote X Starrk]

It's not unreasonable to expect higher spec requirements for a newer game. 

[Deathangel008]

This x1000! My brother has an older corei3 550 dual core with hyperthreading, and he wanted to know if he could play the game.

i know that the game runs on dualcore i5 of the first gen, so i would say he can play the game, but i dont know on which settings.
 

 

2. It doesn't really matter the developer's reasoning, when the end result is to alienate nearly 50% of PC users from their game. The generally poorer 50%.

the steam statistic only says "2 physical cores", which includes all dualcore Core i´s, which have 4 threads.

[Battlebloodmage]

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Fuc* the poor?

well if you sayso.. you sure they wont mind?

i mean i barely know them.

[Battlebloodmage]

Fuc* the poor?

well if you sayso.. you sure they wont mind?

i mean i barely know them.

I mean, they have to get money somehow to buy a quad-core. Not everyone is born with a quad-core in their mouth.