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[Cheme116]

Yeah, I like to joke about bought reviews but the way that most professional critics went on about this game being some grand return to form for Bioware and a "genuine, breathtaking landmark of gaming" now genuinely sound deeply suspicious.

 

You only need to breeze through the reception section of the game's Wikipedia page, then turn back to the sort of comments appearing on this forum, to realise something doesn't quite add up.

I personally think the reviewers are correct. Also keep in mind most people who are enjoying the game are not on the forums (I wouldn't be either if I wasn't heading to sleep). 

 

To me the game is an easy 9/10 and that is with a few bugs and using a controller on PC. The main issues can be addressed and most likely will be addressed in the near future, hence I'm not really worried. To be honest though DA:I has provided more fun than most games this year have provided me, and that's saying something. 

 

To each their own, though I think people are being a bit too nit-picky.

[zMataxa]

I like Elder Scrolls games for more than just open worlds and exploration.

 

Gotcha.  Will respect your wishes to not say more.

Still curious though - it would have been illuminating to see what key features are missing for you that Skyrim has.

[Rawgrim]

Adding all the complaints and praises together, it seems to be a mediocre game all in all. I haven't played it yet, so I can't offer any personal opinions on it, but I don't feel too discouraged to buy the game.

[zMataxa]

Adding all the complaints and praises together, it seems to be a mediocre game all in all. I haven't played it yet, so I can't offer any personal opinions on it, but I don't feel too discouraged to buy the game.

 

How long to wait though until one should weigh all the opinions together?

Seems story doesn't really kick in till a bit later. 

Adaptations to new playstyle required still in the works.

Maybe even some patches.

I'm gonna give it at least a week when more is known. 

Way too preemie for me to start forming any kind of consensus.

[CIA]

It's amazing but the PC port is pretty bad is the general consensus, although many hate the game for removing tactics etc.

[Rawgrim]

How long to wait though until one should weigh all the opinions together?

Seems story doesn't really kick in till a bit later. 

Adaptations to new playstyle required still in the works.

Maybe even some patches.

I'm gonna give it at least a week when more is known. 

Way too preemie for me to start forming any kind of consensus.

 

I'd give it a month. Seems the game is really buggy, though. Very odd that all those reviewers that gave the game top scores missed that bit...

[zMataxa]

I'd give it a month. Seems the game is really buggy, though. Very odd that all those reviewers that gave the game top scores missed that bit...

 

I agree that is odd. Month is a good idea.  Cheers!

[zMataxa]

It's amazing but the PC port is pretty bad is the general consensus, although many hate the game for removing tactics etc.

It seems most of those who play with controller (like I'm gonna do) are actually enjoying..

I do feel bad for the KBMers though.  Some have found a way to make it work, many others not - or not yet.

[ShdwPlayer]

DAI is in the middle. It can't surpass Origins, (nothing ever will from BioWare) but it does conquer DA2 single-handedly. If you enjoyed DA2, you'll find yourself right at home with DAI. If you hated DA2, you'll find DAI to be at the very least a tolerable, with a hint of fun, experience. 

 

 

As a Mast Effect fan I give you an angry stare

 

 

I was a Mass Effect fan before DA, and I have to say, he is kind of right. DA:O was simply wonderful. 

 

 

You're looking at DA:O through rose tinted glasses. Origins had it's own host of problems. It was just the first DA and didn't have to live up to anything

[Rawgrim]

You're looking at DA:O through rose tinted glasses. Origins had it's own host of problems. It was just the first DA and didn't have to live up to anything

 

Ohh yes it did. It was marketed as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. It certainly had to live up to plenty.

[Darkly Tranquil]

You're looking at DA:O through rose tinted glasses. Origins had it's own host of problems. It was just the first DA and didn't have to live up to anything

I played Origins again last week (my ~15th completion) in preparation for DAI, and its still as good as it ever was. It might be five years old and the graphics showing their age, but nothing I have played since has come close to matching it for sheer depth and replayability. But then again I am an old school CRPG fan (and pen and paper before that), so I don't care for these modern ARPGs.

[skjutengris]

if it has 20 playtroughs for fanatics of bioware roleplaying I guess it works for them.

Reviewing a game today we cant expect critics as many of those places dont get games or hardware if they say "bad" things about their stuff.

 

I revolt a bit about people accepting console designs, I guess kids who grown up on consoles think its awesome.

but the people making these games are not kids so I would assume some respect for being a PC gamer and being older than 80% of the gamers playing it I would assume a patch for PC to fix many of the issues.

 

Then again tomorow I have my key.

[RedStar Kachina]

I'm leaning towards this too. It doesn't look like what they made it out to be. I think I will wait for the youtube reviews, usually I find them more insightful than anything the "professionals" have put up. 

 

People keep throwing the word bland around, it kind of makes me want to stay away from this game. I wasn't expecting Origins either, but from the sound of it, I'm not so sure on whether I should pay for it or just save my money for some other game. 

I should of stayed away, but I bought it. I wasn't going to pay 75 dollars for a game. I got it cheaper through gamestop at 50. I still regret buying it. This game doesn't have that feel of the Dragon Age series. This feels like they were working on an RPG and then at the last minute decided to change out the characters for Dragon Age Characters. The whole game mechanics is way to different from the last two. I don't like it when I am limited to certain things.

[RedStar Kachina]

I'd give it a month. Seems the game is really buggy, though. Very odd that all those reviewers that gave the game top scores missed that bit...

I never trust review people. You don't ever know if they are paid by company or what. At IGN, Companies can pay for better reviews.

[Rawgrim]

I never trust review people. You don't ever know if they are paid by company or what. At IGN, Companies can pay for better reviews.

 

I have a few friends that are game developers, and they tell me this all the time. Gaming sites and professional reviewers are some of the most corrupt things on the planet. One of them was even embarrassed when a game he worked on got top scores.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I should of stayed away, but I bought it. I wasn't going to pay 75 dollars for a game. I got it cheaper through gamestop at 50. I still regret buying it. This game doesn't have that feel of the Dragon Age series. This feels like they were working on an RPG and then at the last minute decided to change out the characters for Dragon Age Characters. The whole game mechanics is way to different from the last two. I don't like it when I am limited to certain things.

The problem is that for some insane reason, they got it into their heads that making an RPG on a game engine designed for first person shooters was a good idea. I would bet money that most of the problems with customisation and control are due to the fact that Frostbite is just completely unsuitable for this type of game. Even Mike Laidlaw admitted in one of streams that they had to put a lot of work into modifying the engine because it didn't even have any mechanism for concepts like character attributes. The lack of customisable attributes, lack of tactics options, and poorly implemented Tac Cam all reek of engine imposed limitations.

[Rawgrim]

The problem is that for some insane reason, they got it into their heads that making an RPG on a game engine designed for first person shooters was a good idea. I would bet money that most of the problems with customisation and control are due to the fact that Frostbite is just completely unsuitable for this type of game. Even Mike Laidlaw admitted in one of streams that they had to put a lot of work into modifying the engine because it didn't even have any mechanism for concepts like character attributes. The lack of customisable attributes, lack of tactics options, and poorly implemented Tac Cam all reek of engine imposed limitations.

 

Those things you list up at the end of the post aren't due to the game engine. DA2 already showed big signs of those, and the reasoning behind it was "streamlining". They just took it a step or five further with DA:I.

[Mr.House]

Ohh yes it did. It was marketed as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. It certainly had to live up to plenty.

And while an enjoyable game, it did not live up to it's spiritual successor. Really DAO was just as flawed and buggy along with poor side mission design(which both suffer from, at least DAI lets you explore instead of corridor slogging)

 

Both games have their own separate issues, and both share same issues too.

[Coyote X Starrk]

You don't ever know if they are paid by company or what. At IGN, Companies can pay for better reviews.

 

Proof? 

 

Or is that just your own speculation? 

[Mr.House]

Those things you list up at the end of the post aren't due to the game engine. DA2 already showed big signs of those, and the reasoning behind it was "streamlining". They just took it a step or five further with DA:I.

Seeing as DAI brought back many mechanics from DAO that where stripped with just the tac cam and tactics menu being poor and keyboard and mouse support being rather meh, I doubt that really. If it was going a step or five further we would not be able to equip armor on companions, allow Varric to use daggers ect.

[Rawgrim]

Seeing as DAI brought back many mechanics from DAO that where stripped with just the tac cam and tactics menu being poor and keyboard and mouse support being rather meh, I doubt that really. If it was going a step or five further we would not be able to equip armor on companions, allow Varric to use daggers ect.

 

Being able to place attribute points on your character when leveling up is gone, though. And we can only use 8 of our abilities during combat. Some steps back there.

[Fabiano79]

Its a good game, but thats it, 8 out 10, nothing revolutionary.

 

Also, I think they just included the tactical cam to please old fans (like me), but the game was not built to have a tactical combat. If you ignore completely the tactical cam, you will have a way less frustating experience with DAI. 

[RedStar Kachina]

Proof? 

 

Or is that just your own speculation? 

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