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[Willowhugger]

So, people, what did you think of the resolution to the conflict?

 

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On my end, I'm disappointed. I knew it would be marginalized but I didn't think it would be reduced to the point it was almost an afterthought to the greater story. Both sides ended up looking pathetic too with the Templars transformed into raging magical-meth addicts and the Mages siding with Tevinter?

The last one needed more, sheer WTF for my Mage Inquisitor to express.

 

"Oh joy, we're siding with slavers to get our freedom!"

 

In the end, you can only side with one as the other is more or less smashed to pieces/corrupted beyond recognition by someone else, too. *I* wanted to be the one who smashes them to pieces.

 

Here, it's like they're reduced to Darkspawn.

[Cerulione]

I've seen Templar Ending & Mage Ending (videos on youtube).

 

The templars ending seems really powerful in my opinion... Just like it.

 

The Mage Ending is much less... classy. Maybe that's just because I don't like how they turn the mage leader into that kind of person, she was quite interesting in one of Gaider's novel.

[Jaison1986]

I've seen Templar Ending & Mage Ending (videos on youtube).

 

The templars ending seems really powerful in my opinion... Just like it.

 

The Mage Ending is much less... classy. Maybe that's just because I don't like how they turn the mage leader into that kind of person, she was quite interesting in one of Gaider's novel.

 

How is the templar ending?

 

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I saw only mage ending were Leliana free the mages of Chantry's hold and they start their own independant circle wich they nominate as an school of magic. And it seems their independance allowed them to get along better with mundanes now that the Chantry no long gets in the way.

[Akkos]

The poor innocent templars were actually forced to take in red lyrium and were deceived by an Envy demon on behalf of the Lord Seeker.

 

The rebel mages willingly sided with a tevinter mage just because they are free. I conscripted them just in case.

 

Epilogue ending, no idea yet.

[Bigdoser]

The poor innocent templars were actually forced to take in red lyrium.

 

The rebel mages willingly sided with a tevinter mage just because they are free. I conscripted them just in case.

 

Epilogue ending, no idea yet.

Actually no Alexius messed with time to get to them in his clutches hence why Fiona was like wtf at the whole message thing. So at the end of the day both sides were being manipulated by the elder one's agents. 

[Akkos]

Actually no Alexius messed with time to get to them in his clutches hence why Fiona was like wtf at the whole message thing. So at the end of the day both sides were being manipulated by the elder one's agents. 

 

yea I know, but since the templars are now leaderless, I thought Cullen/Cassandra might help them and make their will strong as the leader.

 

Fiona is just....... pfft.. I expected her to be a strong leader like I had read in Asunder.   Even her son doesn't recognized her at all.

[Bigdoser]

yea I know, but since the templars are now leaderless, I thought Cullen/Cassandra might help them and make their will strong as the leader.

 

Fiona is just....... pfft.. I expected her to be a strong leader like I had read in Asunder.   Even her son doesn't recognized her at all.

Well he never knew his mother and its good that he does not recognize her that's the point if anyone found out that Alistair is elf blooded? You bet that a civil war will break out. 

[Br3admax]

War isn't going to break out just because Alistair is elf-blooded.

[Willowhugger]

War isn't going to break out just because Alistair is elf-blooded.

 

Elf AND Mage blooded.

Eh, nobles rebel for the stupidest reasons.

But the thing to remember in Feudalism is war is what a knight's trade is.

 

It happens all the time anyway.

[Br3admax]

Having a mage parent won't cause war either. It hasn't harmed anywhere else in Thedad, and plenty of noble families have "mage blood," it went happened with the only heir to the Theirin bloodline.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Having a mage parent won't cause war either. It hasn't harmed anywhere else in Thedad, and plenty of noble families have "mage blood," it went happened with the only heir to the Theirin bloodline.

Having elf AND mage blood in his veins is more than enough for some nobles to try and discredit his claims on the throne.

[notouchy]

Having elf AND mage blood in his veins is more than enough for some nobles to try and discredit his claims on the throne.

 

He's been king for 10 years. His 'claim' is about as ironclad as you can get. The army won't leave him, and he has too many powerful supporters(Fergus Cousland, Arl Teagan, Teyrna Anora if she's queen). The nobles won't rebel if they know what's good for them.

[EmperorSahlertz]

He's been king for 10 years. His 'claim' is about as ironclad as you can get. The army won't leave him, and he has too many powerful supporters(Fergus Cousland, Arl Teagan, Teyrna Anora if she's queen). The nobles won't rebel if they know what's good for them.

Support of people in power has withered and died for much less. People don't know of Alistair's heritage, which is probably a large part of why they still support him.

[Br3admax]

Support of people in power has withered and died for much less. People don't know of Alistair's heritage, which is probably a large part of why they still support him.

All the most powerful families in Ferelden support him, not the least of which are the Guerrin and the Couslands. His position is secure. It's also not like he's going to actually tell the entire kingdom about it, any more than they blab about the OGB. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

All the most powerful families in Ferelden support him, not the least of which are the Guerrin and the Couslands. His position is secure. It's also not like he's going to actually tell the entire kingdom about it, any more than they blab about the OGB. 

Again, since this apparently isn't getting through, the support would disappear the SECOND the nobles learned of Alistair's heritage. Being elf-blooded is regarded as shameful, even taboo, and having an elf-blooded king would be nigh on impossible to tolerate for nobles, and probably even the commoners too.

[herkles]

yea I know, but since the templars are now leaderless, I thought Cullen/Cassandra might help them and make their will strong as the leader.

 

Fiona is just....... pfft.. I expected her to be a strong leader like I had read in Asunder.   Even her son doesn't recognized her at all.

for the templars, if ser barris is alive he can become the leader or one of the leaders of the Order. Which is cool, because Ser Barris is what the templars so despertly need as a leader right now.

[Br3admax]

Again, since this apparently isn't getting through, the support would disappear the SECOND the nobles learned of Alistair's heritage. Being elf-blooded is regarded as shameful, even taboo, and having an elf-blooded king would be nigh on impossible to tolerate for nobles, and probably even the commoners too.

Your opinion needs a little something besides itself to back it up. As of now, Alistair has support from nearly all of Ferelden and has held their country together through Civil War and Blight. The most powerful nobles in the country are also personal friends. They aren't going to just let their vassals have their way. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

Your opinion needs a little something besides itself to back it up. As of now, Alistair has support from nearly all of Ferelden and has held their country together through Civil War and Blight. The most powerful nobles in the country are also personal friends. They aren't going to just let their vassals have their way. 

Eamon is no longer relevant, Redcliffe is in shambles, Highever is in the process of rebuilding, and the Bannorn are still at the end of the day, the most important collection of nobles in Ferelden.

 

And it is not "my opinion", it is the LORE which outright states that elf-blooded humans are looked upon with scorn, even hate. To have such a king, would NOT go over well with the Bannorn. Support for AListair would quickly erode. He would end up being nothing but a puppet king on the throne at best, since no noble would respect him, and at worst it would lead to a new war of succession, since he has failed to provide an heir in ten years.

[Danny Boy 7]

So what exactly happens if someone sides with the Templars, or rather does anyone mind sharing the lasting effects? Do we still have Red Templars as enemies and vice versa? I sort of want to side with the templars because Barris seems pretty cool, but I'm wondering what's the difference if you make an alliance with either side or conscript the groups?

[TheJediSaint]

So what exactly happens if someone sides with the Templars, or rather does anyone mind sharing the lasting effects? Do we still have Red Templars as enemies and vice versa? I sort of want to side with the templars because Barris seems pretty cool, but I'm wondering what's the difference if you make an alliance with either side or conscript the groups?

You get a different second in command for Cory.

[Danny Boy 7]

You get a different second in command for Cory.

So the Red Templars still show up?

[Dave of Canada]

So the Red Templars still show up?

 

In much few number, the Venatori take center stage and Cory's second-in-command is a mage.

[Danny Boy 7]

Ah okay. So what happens to the mages or templars if they joined you?

[Former_Fiend]

I have mixed feelings about it.

 

On one hand I'm happy it actually got reduced to what it was. When the sky is opened up and demons are pouring out of it, I honestly could not give less of a sh*t about mages and templars and their reasons for fighting.

 

What disappointed me was that it was ultimately an either/or decision where as I was hoping for a "force both sides into submission" option. But with what they were doing, I see why that couldn't happen.

[Wolfen09]

He's been king for 10 years. His 'claim' is about as ironclad as you can get. The army won't leave him, and he has too many powerful supporters(Fergus Cousland, Arl Teagan, Teyrna Anora if she's queen). The nobles won't rebel if they know what's good for them.

 

And Obama has been in office for almost 8, and people are still asking for a birth certificate....  (move on ppl there is nothing you can do about it)

 

Anyway, I was hoping they both would have had more than 1 quest assigned to them....  i was hoping for something like orzammar where you had 3 missions to do before you got support, and could technically change your mind in the first one.  They could have expanded the story a bit more by doing that too....  oh well, if they did that then people would be complaining the campaign was too long and there werent enough side quests instead of the other way around