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BIOWARE, it's 2010, why do you have to censor sex?!?!


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Rabble Rabble Rabble

Modifié par Delta426, 25 janvier 2010 - 07:15 .


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Kabraxal wrote...

Celethorn wrote...

Too many desperate kids these days... As said previously, it's a game about saving the galaxy, not a porno. If you want sex and nudity and whatever else, go download actual porn, not go to a game for it... Or even better, go out that door on the front of your house into the sunlight and find an actual relationship.


... is this the best argument you people have?  Really, it is quite telling that you are okay with showing violence and then censoring a sex scene.  ESRB be damned, nothing should be censored, but violence should go long before nudity in any fashion.


What, would you more rather a game with no violence and all sex? Violence is acceptable in the context of the game, the games story is based around a shadow war, if it were without violence then it'd fail at that context. But when it comes to sex, that's not within the context, the game is based on a fight for survival, not 3D porn!

As I said before, if you want sex, then go watch some porn or find a real relationship, not play a game for it that isn't based on it!

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Bioware put the sex in Mass Effect 1 in the first place. fans didn't ask for it, but it seems like most appreciated it. but now they're toning stuff down. that's what I'm mad about. why you gotta tone it down

Modifié par Wonderllama4, 25 janvier 2010 - 06:49 .


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KBGeller wrote...

This. Must we have sex constantly? I mean, I was a teen boy once too not all too long ago (I'm only 21, nearly 22 here). But damn, comeon now. Games are meant to have fun, have great story and plot, and kill stuff.

If you want to satisfy other primal urges besides killing hundreds of other living things in full detail, then there are other more appropriate outlets as this quote suggests. If you insist on having sex you control, there are many many dating sims out there or perhaps better yet, real human contact. But then again, the people who are complaining probly dont have enough of that and now we wonder if its coincidence... i think not.

Go have fun and then come back and enjoy a good GAME when you come back.


The thing is, you can not tell someone what games are to them. Games are different to each person. What makes a great game is different for everybody. Not everybody will have the same feelings about a certain issue or aspect in a game. I'm only saying this because it's really pointless to attempt to tell people "come on guys it's a game not a porno" etc etc.

What does that do? Sure, people can have sex in real life if they want, watch porn, whatever. But maybe they feel different when it's in a game they love. Maybe they want to see THEIR characters and the great characters in Mass Effect in a sexual/passionate encounter? Not some random broad in a porno or something. I just think it's a waste of time to come in here telling people what they should focus on in a game.

If they want something in a game, then damn, it's their right to have that view and that want....

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I can see the point of both sides, but my personal opinion I belive if you are going to show someones foot get chopped off or head sawed off, or even a slow motion bullet going through someones head in a vdieo game (all scenarios I just mentioned were in games I have played) and rate that 'M', then why in the heck no just show the fricking nudity if you re going to have a sex scene.

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Wonderllama4 wrote...

Bioware put the sex in Mass Effect 1 in the first place. fans didn't ask for it, but it seems like most appreciated it. but now they're toning stuff down. that's what I'm mad about. why you gotta tone it down


maybe cuz theres a lot more options? the scenes are all done differently instead of the same "chicks butt and then sideboob over the male character (or femshep if its liara)" scene. theyre not gonna draw in side boob and butts for every character

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There were no sex scenes in Star Wars, but it was epic nonetheless. I think people have come to mentally link RPGs with romance and sex scenes. How about if ME3 had NO romance at all (not saying it would happen, but what if)? Would you not play it?



It's a sci-fi epic. Surely you don't play it to look at naked bodies?

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If its more like da:o then ME1 then they have already failed :( Damn you Bioware..



Me1 scenes were the best in gaming history.. and they weren't porn...

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Only reason it dosent. Is cause Ea dosent want another storm from FOX Sony did it with heavy rain cause the press dosent look at low hype games. (LOVE PS3)

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I don't want sex to be the focus, but putting it in and then censoring it is just stupid.



What I want from a game is a total experience, especially one in which you are the character. Dragon Age, while decent pre mods, is a far better game with some of the adult mods because it INCREASES immersion. Now I get to go around and fight the good fight, but also come back to the tent for some relaxation and love... it is far more realistic and thus I care a hell of a lot more about what is going on.




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shinobi602 wrote...

KBGeller wrote...

This. Must we have sex constantly? I mean, I was a teen boy once too not all too long ago (I'm only 21, nearly 22 here). But damn, comeon now. Games are meant to have fun, have great story and plot, and kill stuff.

If you want to satisfy other primal urges besides killing hundreds of other living things in full detail, then there are other more appropriate outlets as this quote suggests. If you insist on having sex you control, there are many many dating sims out there or perhaps better yet, real human contact. But then again, the people who are complaining probly dont have enough of that and now we wonder if its coincidence... i think not.

Go have fun and then come back and enjoy a good GAME when you come back.


The thing is, you can not tell someone what games are to them. Games are different to each person. What makes a great game is different for everybody. Not everybody will have the same feelings about a certain issue or aspect in a game. I'm only saying this because it's really pointless to attempt to tell people "come on guys it's a game not a porno" etc etc.

What does that do? Sure, people can have sex in real life if they want, watch porn, whatever. But maybe they feel different when it's in a game they love. Maybe they want to see THEIR characters and the great characters in Mass Effect in a sexual/passionate encounter? Not some random broad in a porno or something. I just think it's a waste of time to come in here telling people what they should focus on in a game.

If they want something in a game, then damn, it's their right to have that view and that want....


I agree and well put

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Kabraxal wrote...

Celethorn wrote...

Too many desperate kids these days... As said previously, it's a game about saving the galaxy, not a porno. If you want sex and nudity and whatever else, go download actual porn, not go to a game for it... Or even better, go out that door on the front of your house into the sunlight and find an actual relationship.


... is this the best argument you people have?  Really, it is quite telling that you are okay with showing violence and then censoring a sex scene.  ESRB be damned, nothing should be censored, but violence should go long before nudity in any fashion.

^This. If we had all the weapons in the game shoot flowers then the gun horny kiddos would whine about immersion and the game being unrealistic.
But as soon as we want some immersive romance plot endings or realistic love scenes then its
" HURR DURR GO WATCH PORN LUL!!!1111"
You dont get it. Its not that we want porn. We want a REALISTIC love scene instead of showinga freaking black screen or a lamp.

If bioware made all your precious little headshots with a rifle turn that makes u soooo hard in your little boxers(dont lie) turn to a blackscreen instead if making  their heads blow up then you would cry like babies.
Godammit u ppl make me rage FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Modifié par Sphynx118, 25 janvier 2010 - 06:53 .


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its not actually CENSORED, theres no black bar and nothings blurred out. from what i saw it gets intimate enough before blacking out and leaving the rest to your imagination. if you really wanna see aliens naked go google some of that weird anime/fan art stuff

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Just admit it, you are too immature to understand the argument. This isn't about "ooo boobies" and locking a door... this is about IMMERSION.

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this is the opposite in europe. they have violence heavily censored and/or games banned with it, yet are very open with sexual scenes.

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Sphynx118 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Celethorn wrote...

Too many desperate kids these days... As said previously, it's a game about saving the galaxy, not a porno. If you want sex and nudity and whatever else, go download actual porn, not go to a game for it... Or even better, go out that door on the front of your house into the sunlight and find an actual relationship.


... is this the best argument you people have?  Really, it is quite telling that you are okay with showing violence and then censoring a sex scene.  ESRB be damned, nothing should be censored, but violence should go long before nudity in any fashion.

^This. If we had all the weapons in the game shoot flowers then the gun horny kiddos would whine about immersion and the game being unrealistic.
But as soon as we want some immersive romance plot endings or realistic love scenes then its
" HURR DURR GO WATCH PORN LUL!!!1111"
You dont get it. Its not that we want porn. We want a REALISTIC love scene instead of showinga frealing black screen or a lamp.

If bioware made all your precious little headshots with a rifle turn that makes u soooo hard in your little boxers(dont lie) turn to a blackscreen instead if making  their heads blow up then you would cry like babies.
Godammit u ppl make rage FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


but the game IS about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement

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IMMERSION... how many times will I have to say it?

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i dont think i really care, the reason could be cause of tali, but hoepfully we wont have to worry in me3

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they did what? lol

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Kabraxal wrote...

Just admit it, you are too immature to understand the argument. This isn't about "ooo boobies" and locking a door... this is about IMMERSION.


so you have to see full on hardcore alien sex to be immersed in mass effect? go look up the scenes before complaining, from what i've seen they get the point across well enough. the conversations with your LI and the intimate scene before they do it is immersive enough for a game

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IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Celethorn wrote...

Too many desperate kids these days... As said previously, it's a game about saving the galaxy, not a porno. If you want sex and nudity and whatever else, go download actual porn, not go to a game for it... Or even better, go out that door on the front of your house into the sunlight and find an actual relationship.


... is this the best argument you people have?  Really, it is quite telling that you are okay with showing violence and then censoring a sex scene.  ESRB be damned, nothing should be censored, but violence should go long before nudity in any fashion.

^This. If we had all the weapons in the game shoot flowers then the gun horny kiddos would whine about immersion and the game being unrealistic.
But as soon as we want some immersive romance plot endings or realistic love scenes then its
" HURR DURR GO WATCH PORN LUL!!!1111"
You dont get it. Its not that we want porn. We want a REALISTIC love scene instead of showinga frealing black screen or a lamp.

If bioware made all your precious little headshots with a rifle turn that makes u soooo hard in your little boxers(dont lie) turn to a blackscreen instead if making  their heads blow up then you would cry like babies.
Godammit u ppl make rage FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


but the game IS about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement

Im sorry  what? xD AHAHAHA you really think that? God how old are you? Havent you seen any of the polls bioware puts up?? The one for DAO for example had "romance" as the most voted priority for developers to evolve. HAHA **** ur stupid

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IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

but the game IS about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement


Wtf, no it is not just about "shooting people", it is about creating your own character, mirroring that character after what you want him/her to be, getting engrossed and immersed in the Mass Effect universe, meeting and interacting with tons of interesting and deep characters, having relationships with all these characters, developing who you are in the game, AS WELL AS finding the truth about the Reapers and taking on your enemies.

Having intimate encounters is PART of being immersed in this game and making it feel more mature and more realistic.

*facepalm*

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do you need to see your character taking a dump, a leak, or showering too? because theres a bathroom you cant use WHICH MAKES ME VERY UPSET BIOWARE, i want TOTAL immersion. youre like the gamestop guy at the citadel who wants REAL TIME TRAVEL and EATING and DRINKING WATER just so you can be "fully immersed" in your game world. if you want immersion in sex go have it in real life

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**** it, this isn't worth wasting my breath on.

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shinobi602 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

but the game IS about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement


Wtf, no it is not just about "shooting people", it is about creating your own character, mirroring that character after what you want him/her to be, getting engrossed and immersed in the Mass Effect universe, meeting and interacting with tons of interesting and deep characters, having relationships with all these characters, developing who you are in the game, AS WELL AS finding the truth about the Reapers and taking on your enemies.

Having intimate encounters is PART of being immersed in this game and making it feel more mature and more realistic.

*facepalm*


did i say it was JUST shooting people? no, but it makes up a much larger part of the game than the romanic SUB PLOT. you can still get immersed and meet all the awesome characters, build meaningful friendships, and even romantic relationships, just because they dont show you doing the deed doesnt mean that you cant get immersed in it