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[Sphynx118]

shinobi602 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

im here because you guys are complaining about the lack of IMMERSION, when really it doesnt at all detract from the overall experience at all. i know it'll be a great game if they don't even have the romantic subplot, or if they show a full frontal nude scene, and ill still be immersed. there werent ANY sex scenes in KOTOR but it wasnt any less IMMERSIVE, it was still a great game and like this, you still feel like your choices have weight and that the characters you're talking to have depth and feeling

Look man, I know what you're saying, honestly I do. But you just seem to always be forgetting something. For other people, maybe it DOES detract somewhat for them? Maybe they think differently? Is that really so bad to accept? So difficult to grasp? That out of the millions of ME fans, there are people like that?

^This

[MGIII]

It's just kind of odd that all that build up is rewarded with awkward dry/clothed sex. I liked the way it was handled in ME1 better. That was pretty classic. Miranda was on the right track though...

[DarkSpiral]

shinobi602 wrote...

Well, I totally agree, that's one extreme end of it. Not having nudity doesn't kill the romance or "immersion" at all for me, I just think it would (or could) be much more tasteful (like you said), knowing Bioware, they could probably do a damn good job. That's all I'm saying.

Um...I'm no longer sure why you and I were disagreeing. Or even if we were disagreeing at all, and were just saying the same thing in two vastly different ways.

I'm just going to move on.  This topic (about explict sex, not the thread specifically) is one of those things that just keeps popping back up.  It won't ever end.

[IRoNM4yN3 138]

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Just admit it, you are too immature to understand the argument. This isn't about "ooo boobies" and locking a door... this is about IMMERSION.

so you have to see full on hardcore alien sex to be immersed in mass effect? go look up the scenes before complaining, from what i've seen they get the point across well enough. the conversations with your LI and the intimate scene before they do it is immersive enough for a game

Was there hardcore porn in me 1? No. Was there whine that we wanted hardcore porn after playing me 1? No. We were happy with what they did there. It was tasteful, a word im sure you never use. How about you make out with tha barrel of your favorite gun and let people enjoy the game their way huh kiddo?

dude, dont call me kiddo, seriously. you don't know how old i am. the new romance scenes are still tasteful. and really? what a great comeback, you wanna talk about maturity when you use a five year old insult along the lines of "IF YOU LIKE SHOOTING SO MUCH WHY DONT YOU MARRY A GUN?" i used that insult in elementary school man. if youre saying you cant enjoy mass effect YOUR WAY because you dont get to see a blue ass and sideboob then dont buy it.

haha you still dont get it kid. (and yes i call you that based on your posts and your Oh so cool and totally not p14 username).
The point isnt to go around being master chief as u seem to think. The point is to play your character and immerse yourself in the store you create. Get it yet?

You want to have a ****** while holding down auto fire on your machine gun and listening to slipknot (great band btw) and i want to have games that are mature enough to do love scenes tastefully.
 
And then i will go out on a killing spree because i enjoy that too. What i dont want is for bioware do downgrade their games.

i can't really be considered a kid if i have one of my own...i never said the point of the game was just shooting, i've said over and over again that the immersion comes from building the relationships, not from seeing the sex. sure, i like shooters like halo, CoD, etc, but who doesnt? you gonna flame on me for enjoying shooting in a video game? and slipknot is complete garbage. i dont need to ******, i've got my own woman, youre the one who seems more interested in wanking to a "TASTEFUL AND IMMERSIVE LOVE SCENE"

really, you appear to be far more immature than me because twice youve used combacks along the line of me doing something sexual with a gun.

Hahah you have a kid? I feel sorry for him. Anyway most people agree here that you dont get the whole point of RPGs so maybe you should go and read up abit.
You just said a few posts up that the whole point is shooting and no you cant make a complete turn around just because you got owned and claim that it wasnt what you meant. Thats just lame dude.
Stand for your opinion instead.
Anyway you keep believing whatever you think rpgs are all about in ur little made up world where u arent 14 years old and making stories up about wifes and i dunno. k? ;D

talk some more **** you little RPG immersion nerd. and its definately not MOST people agreeing with you. I get the point of RPGs, your IMMERSION. and stop putting words in my mouth, no where did i say the WHOLE point is shooting. i've said its a big part. it doesnt say anywhere in my post that mass effect is exclusively a shooter. learn to read. in fact if you listen to what bioware's said the game is basically half shooter/half rpg, so maybe you should read up on mass effect, because its not JUST an rpg. you keep trying to fantasize your IMMERSIVE alien sex with your cute little "OH YOU GO KEEP DOING THIS THING KAY THNX BAI" come backs, so immature

HAHAHA im sorry what? Lol u mad? Funniest rage post ive seen in weeks kid xD Yes you did say that shooting is what the game is about, its all here in the thread so people can see it. No need to lie.

And no i didnt say people agree with me...Does it seem that way to you? xD I wonder why. I said people didnt agree with your values of rpgs. And they shouldnt since you dont really grasp them. And no its still not about
" ALieNZ SCHMEX DURR" that u seem to think. It never was lol ;DAnyway better luck next time

definately not a rage post but okay, whatever, more of your immaturity by insulting me for things you seem to think you know about me but dont...i have the right to be a bit ticked off when you insult my family in a forum about seeing some alien side boob, do you not see how that could POSSIBLY be considered out of line and immature?

"but the game IS about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement" -thats my exact post. of course i said the games about shooting people. everyone knows the game is about shooting people. its a shooter/rpg. my point is that no where in the post like you keep insisting do i once say "JUST" or "ONLY" about shooting people. youre the one saying mass effect 2 is EXCLUSIVELY an rpg, when it is in fact not, and if you listen to any developer, reviewer, or anyone whos played talking about the game you'll know its a shooter/rpg hybrid. better luck to you in trying to put words in my mouth kiddo, grow up and come back with a post that isnt insulting to my family, but actually explains logically how the game is any worse off because nudity isnt shown. go and put up a poll asking if people think the game is in any way harmed because theres no nudity.

[shinobi602]

DarkSpiral wrote...
Um...I'm no longer sure why you and I were disagreeing. Or even if we were disagreeing at all, and were just saying the same thing in two vastly different ways.

I'm just going to move on.  This topic (about explict sex, not the thread specifically) is one of those things that just keeps popping back up.  It won't ever end.

Lol.

Cheers.

[IRoNM4yN3 138]

i understand that you two think the game is harmed without nudity, and your GASP IMMERSION, but seriously, do a poll, and you'll see that people really don't care if theres no nudity in the game, and that itll still be a great game

[casedawgz]

Rule 34.

[shinobi602]

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

i understand that you two think the game is harmed without nudity, and your GASP IMMERSION

No, I don't.

[SurfaceBeneath]

casedawgz wrote...

Rule 34.

I can't wait to see what the brightest minds of the interwebz comes up with in response to Mass Effect 2.

[IRoNM4yN3 138]

shinobi i think that we can agree to disagree, i get that some players have different tastes on what makes a game immersive or detracts from the immersion. you are apparently far more mature and logical than your counterpart

sphynx "CAN GO HAVE BUTTSECKS WITH HIS IMMERSIVE JENNA JAMESON VIRTUAL SECKS GAME CUZ MASS EFFECT IS PURE RPG AND DOESNT NEED ANY SHOOTING WHATSOEVER BECAUSE SHOOTING DETRACTS FROM THE IMMERSION KAI THNX BAI" because you need to bring petty insults into an arguement...kiddo ;]

Modifié par IRoNM4yN3 138, 25 janvier 2010 - 07:52 .

[shinobi602]

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

shinobi i think that we can agree to disagree, i get that some players have different tastes on what makes a game immersive or detracts from the immersion

That's pretty much all I was trying to say...the whole time...I don't know why you kept at it.

[T1l]

Can we just accept Mass Effect 2 for what it is and just enjoy it? 

All this "Why can we do X", "Why can't I have sex with X", "Why doesn't X have sex with Y", "Why can't we do X", "Why does X insist I stick it in Y's Z" - it's just... come on, guys; relax and enjoy the ride. I was sceptical that Mass Effect 2 wasn't going to be enough of an RPG for me to fully enjoy, and boy, was I wrong. It really is a stellar game. It might not have gay sex. It might not allow you to bang the Mako. It might not allow you to romance a Hanar - but, really, those are incredibly small factors in a very, very well made game.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?! 

[IRoNM4yN3 138]

shinobi602 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

shinobi i think that we can agree to disagree, i get that some players have different tastes on what makes a game immersive or detracts from the immersion

That's pretty much all I was trying to say...the whole time...I don't know why you kept at it.

my understanding was that you guys thought it detracted from the immersion and overall experience and i was trying to explain the game would still be great even if there was zero romance options

[Sphynx118]

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Just admit it, you are too immature to understand the argument. This isn't about "ooo boobies" and locking a door... this is about IMMERSION.

so you have to see full on hardcore alien sex to be immersed in mass effect? go look up the scenes before complaining, from what i've seen they get the point across well enough. the conversations with your LI and the intimate scene before they do it is immersive enough for a game

Was there hardcore porn in me 1? No. Was there whine that we wanted hardcore porn after playing me 1? No. We were happy with what they did there. It was tasteful, a word im sure you never use. How about you make out with tha barrel of your favorite gun and let people enjoy the game their way huh kiddo?

dude, dont call me kiddo, seriously. you don't know how old i am. the new romance scenes are still tasteful. and really? what a great comeback, you wanna talk about maturity when you use a five year old insult along the lines of "IF YOU LIKE SHOOTING SO MUCH WHY DONT YOU MARRY A GUN?" i used that insult in elementary school man. if youre saying you cant enjoy mass effect YOUR WAY because you dont get to see a blue ass and sideboob then dont buy it.

haha you still dont get it kid. (and yes i call you that based on your posts and your Oh so cool and totally not p14 username).
The point isnt to go around being master chief as u seem to think. The point is to play your character and immerse yourself in the store you create. Get it yet?

You want to have a ****** while holding down auto fire on your machine gun and listening to slipknot (great band btw) and i want to have games that are mature enough to do love scenes tastefully.
 
And then i will go out on a killing spree because i enjoy that too. What i dont want is for bioware do downgrade their games.

i can't really be considered a kid if i have one of my own...i never said the point of the game was just shooting, i've said over and over again that the immersion comes from building the relationships, not from seeing the sex. sure, i like shooters like halo, CoD, etc, but who doesnt? you gonna flame on me for enjoying shooting in a video game? and slipknot is complete garbage. i dont need to ******, i've got my own woman, youre the one who seems more interested in wanking to a "TASTEFUL AND IMMERSIVE LOVE SCENE"

really, you appear to be far more immature than me because twice youve used combacks along the line of me doing something sexual with a gun.

Hahah you have a kid? I feel sorry for him. Anyway most people agree here that you dont get the whole point of RPGs so maybe you should go and read up abit.
You just said a few posts up that the whole point is shooting and no you cant make a complete turn around just because you got owned and claim that it wasnt what you meant. Thats just lame dude.
Stand for your opinion instead.
Anyway you keep believing whatever you think rpgs are all about in ur little made up world where u arent 14 years old and making stories up about wifes and i dunno. k? ;D

talk some more **** you little RPG immersion nerd. and its definately not MOST people agreeing with you. I get the point of RPGs, your IMMERSION. and stop putting words in my mouth, no where did i say the WHOLE point is shooting. i've said its a big part. it doesnt say anywhere in my post that mass effect is exclusively a shooter. learn to read. in fact if you listen to what bioware's said the game is basically half shooter/half rpg, so maybe you should read up on mass effect, because its not JUST an rpg. you keep trying to fantasize your IMMERSIVE alien sex with your cute little "OH YOU GO KEEP DOING THIS THING KAY THNX BAI" come backs, so immature

HAHAHA im sorry what? Lol u mad? Funniest rage post ive seen in weeks kid xD Yes you did say that shooting is what the game is about, its all here in the thread so people can see it. No need to lie.

And no i didnt say people agree with me...Does it seem that way to you? xD I wonder why. I said people didnt agree with your values of rpgs. And they shouldnt since you dont really grasp them. And no its still not about
" ALieNZ SCHMEX DURR" that u seem to think. It never was lol ;DAnyway better luck next time

definately not a rage post but okay, whatever, more of your immaturity by insulting me for things you seem to think you know about me but dont...i have the right to be a bit ticked off when you insult my family in a forum about seeing some alien side boob, do you not see how that could POSSIBLY be considered out of line and immature?

"but the game IS about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement" -thats my exact post. of course i said the games about shooting people. everyone knows the game is about shooting people. its a shooter/rpg. my point is that no where in the post like you keep insisting do i once say "JUST" or "ONLY" about shooting people. youre the one saying mass effect 2 is EXCLUSIVELY an rpg, when it is in fact not, and if you listen to any developer, reviewer, or anyone whos played talking about the game you'll know its a shooter/rpg hybrid. better luck to you in trying to put words in my mouth kiddo, grow up and come back with a post that isnt insulting to my family, but actually explains logically how the game is any worse off because nudity isnt shown. go and put up a poll asking if people think the game is in any way harmed because theres no nudity.

Haha call it what you want. You raged pretty hard and u still do kid.
And please quote my sentence where i say what you claim about me EXCLUSIVELY being an rpg. Its gonna be kinda hard since ive never actually said it but nvm.
And then to your issues with reading.
If u look closely at your "shooting" post then you will see that you put emphasis on the "IS" there.
You see it big guy? Good. Now. Bear with me here kid. Normal people as in not you or your soon to be likely deranged kid (if u still have one). Usually takes that sentence with the big "IS" that u posted as a "Shooting IS what its all about" you dont really have to type the "about" at the end since u did the big IS thing.
See it now? Lol all this time i thought u lied but now i understand that u actually dont understand what you are typing :S
Dude you are just making a fool out of yourself so im gonna stop humiliating you now ok?
Nobody really gets what u are raging about here but its ok we dont really care k?

[T1l]

And for the love of God, stop quoting peoples' quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes!

[Sphynx118]

T1l wrote...

And for the love of God, stop quoting peoples' quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes!

It makes pretty neat towers, no?

[T1l]

Sphynx118 wrote...

T1l wrote...

And for the love of God, stop quoting peoples' quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes!

It makes pretty neat towers, no?

If you do it again it's going to break the forum formatting; it happens on the Dragon Age forums every now and then.

YOU'LL BREAK IT! I warned you!

EDIT: Gah! You did!

Modifié par T1l, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:00 .

[Sphynx118]

T1l wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

T1l wrote...

And for the love of God, stop quoting peoples' quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes!

It makes pretty neat towers, no?

If you do it again it's going to break the forum formatting; it happens on the Dragon Age forums every now and then.

YOU'LL BREAK IT! I warned you!

EDIT: Gah! You did!

Omg lol what. I already stopped when that happenedIm sorry i broke your forum bioware lol...Its so fragile

Modifié par Sphynx118, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:03 .

[IRoNM4yN3 138]

you never said it was exclusively one but you are definitely trying to make it seem like the shooter aspect is very small. i put the emphasis on is because you said taking out the shooting would be equal to taking out the sex, when in fact, it would not. its a shooter/rpg, not a shooter/rpg/virtual sex game. you apparently don't understand how emphasis works. and really, i'm not humiliated at all. if you want me to reword it for your slow little mind i will,

"but the game IS MORE about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement"

the game IS about shooting people. it IS NOT about ****ing them. shooting is not optional, romancing is. it's half the point of the game really, bioware has said countless times its equally as much of a shooter as an RPG, and you really havent comback to that point, instead you keep on with the petty family insults, talking down on me like i don't understand how a sentence works, and doing that gay little "im gonna put okay at the end of every sentence so i sound smarter and you sound dumb, OKAY?" edit: oh ya and ill throw in lots of smilies to make me seem smarter too ya? XD ;D :]]]]

Modifié par IRoNM4yN3 138, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:04 .

[Sphynx118]

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

you never said it was exclusively one but you are definitely trying to make it seem like the shooter aspect is very small. i put the emphasis on is because you said taking out the shooting would be equal to taking out the sex, when in fact, it would not. its a shooter/rpg, not a shooter/rpg/virtual sex game. you apparently don't understand how emphasis works. and really, i'm not humiliated at all. if you want me to reword it for your slow little mind i will,

"but the game IS MORE about shooting people, not ****ing them for christ's sake ive never seen a more illogical arguement"

the game IS about shooting people. it IS NOT about ****ing them. shooting is not optional, romancing is. it's half the point of the game really, bioware has said countless times its equally as much of a shooter as an RPG, and you really havent comback to that point, instead you keep on with the petty family insults, talking down on me like i don't understand how a sentence works, and doing that gay little "im gonna put okay at the end of every sentence so i sound smarter and you sound dumb, OKAY?"

Well u broke the forum, noob k? Buy a new one. Oh and if im being so immature and dumd how come you keep immitating my way of discussing this then? Admitt i won all the way m8. And yes rewording a post kinda makes it have a new meaning doesnt it? Especially if u just add a word instead of actaully rewording it ya? lol.

Modifié par Sphynx118, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:07 .

[Kabraxal]

Easy questions:

Does this game allow you to shoot people? Yes. Does it allow you to romance people? Yes. Now, does this game show blood and body parts flying around from said shooting? Yes. Does it show nudity and sex involved in romance? No.

There. Do we now see the pathetic double standard?

Modifié par Kabraxal, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:07 .

[IRoNM4yN3 138]

k? good comeback k?



bioware its 2010, i think shooting should be optional kay?



i like to IMMERSE myself in a game, and being a conscientious objector i think one of the options on the wheel should be to discard my guns and no longer open fire to allow me to FURTHER IMMERSE myself in my fake ROLE PLAYING GAME/LIFE. k? ;D XD

[Kabraxal]

IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...

k? good comeback k?

bioware its 2010, i think shooting should be optional kay?

i like to IMMERSE myself in a game, and being a conscientious objector i think one of the options on the wheel should be to discard my guns and no longer open fire to allow me to FURTHER IMMERSE myself in my fake ROLE PLAYING GAME/LIFE. k? ;D XD

Which should be allowed.  What's so hard about showing said flower child pacifist getting mowed down seconds later?

Modifié par Kabraxal, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:09 .