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cipher86

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It's about an hour long on hard (including deaths), has a good chunk of lore, interesting dialogue choices, and storage.

I enjoyed it, but if I didn't get it for free with my DDE I'm not sure if I would have bought it.  $7 for an hours worth is fairly steep.

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On normal the quest only took me about 20 minutes, but it is nice to have the perks that come with it like storage and vendors.

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$7 for an hour of entertainment is steep? You pay double that for a movie ticket to see a 2 hour movie so I think it's about on par. Plus unlike a movie ticket, you get to keep re-experiencing the warden's keep when you play through the game again.

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People keep on saying $7 is a lot for a DLC that adds more game play. But I figure with $7 more I get more in the game for ALL the times I complete it (6 games if I do all the different beginnings) and it is cheaper then a online game monthly payment. So I figure that is not to much to add that DLC for all my play throughs.

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I just find it amazing that anyone can say $7 is steep for any form of entertainment in this day and age. Hell I can regularly spend more than $7 on a 5 minute fast food meal anymore. A movie night for me and the wife, were talking $25-$30 for 90-120 minutes of entertainment. $7 is a steal for warden's keep. Really shouldn't be that big of an issue.

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They said it was 2 - 5 hours of content. $7 for 1 hour is horrible. Glad I haven't purchased it.



As for Oronduil :

I can buy a terrible book that will provide me hours of reading for a dollar. Should everything be based on how much books cost?

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if i got to the movies, i need to pay 15 for the ticket for 2 hours. Then i also need to buy the food and drinks as you are not allowed to bring your own. When i buy a large coke, its costing me nearly 4 bucks. Some food combined with that, comes to an easy 8-10 extra. then i still got parking to pay.



so all in 25-30 is my final price for just 1 person.

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Wow...movie tickets are a lot more expensive than I remembered. $15? Really?

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blixz

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what level do you have to be for the quest the guy keeps saying he will mark it on my map but i dont see anything new there

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He marks it on your world map not your mini map look for the area circled in yellow on your map its how dlc area are marked

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Took me about an hour to complete. A lot of fun and worth the $7 IMO.

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blixz

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idk there is nothing circled other then my camp and when i go out of the cinematic with him he still has the question mark on his head


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I read the lore entries and worked my way through. I quite enjoyed it. On normal difficulty it took me around 1.5-2 hours to get through it. I'm usually pretty quick to plow through content as I've been gaming for over 20 years, so I would expect it to take some people a bit longer.

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As for Oronduil :
I can buy a terrible book that will provide me hours of reading for a dollar. Should everything be based on how much books cost?


Where the hell are you living where new books only cost a dollar???Posted Image

Modifié par Oronduil, 05 novembre 2009 - 02:09 .


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I bought it for $7 (vs. the 15 for the DDE?) and rather enjoyed it. I like the armor, it took me more like 2 hours, but I micromanage every battle so it always takes me way longer then everyone else. Lore was fun. I'm just not sure how the keep figures into the rest of the game though, whether it's really worth going back to it.

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I thought pretty much all DLC was over-priced, so it's nothing new.

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The arguments comparing this DLC to movie admissions and food are pretty weak. For one thing, you can't really compare different forms of entertainment; the cost of making the movie, theatre, etc. are far higher then the cost of making a add-on for an already established game. Secondly, food is a necessity and is therefore more important then a video game.



Personally I think that movies are more entertaining then equally long amounts of gameplay. Furthermore, I still think that movie admissions are overpriced. There's no way that I'd pay for an inferior product, when a superior product isn't worth the money either.

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Thanks for the information. I've been trying to decide if it was worth getting. I'm not really fond of the DLC concept so much (especially release-day DLC), but I love this game so ... guess I'll skip it for now. Been having some issues with the DLC that came with my game anyway.

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Really, to get a good sense of dollar value of DLC, you should be comparing the cost to similar games. Heck, compare it to the SAME game.

As I've said in another thread, $7 is more than 10% of the cost of the normal edition of DA:O. So, does it give you gameplay equivalent to 10% of the game? From all the reports I've read, no. Therefore, it's not worth it.

Let's take another comparison. Torchlight just came out, a smallish but fun ARPG, for $20. $7 is a little more than a third of the cost of Torchlight. Does this DLC provide a third the gameplay of Torchlight? Not by a LONG shot, even if you only play the single-player main dungeon in TL and ignore the infinite dungeon and all the optional side dungeons :P Took me about three days to complete Torchlight's main quest; didn't keep track of how many hours per day, but it was a lot ;)

So, in the realm of computer gaming as entertainment, is it good value for money? I don't think so. Which is why I got so annoyed when I discovered that whether I decided I wanted to get it or not, my base game is infected by the connected NPC and questlog entry :P

Modifié par Srikandi715, 05 novembre 2009 - 04:09 .


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i could smoke a crack rock and be high for 20 minutes for $7...so the DLC is a win win...plus, if I skip out on the $15 movie I get crack and the Warden's Keep for $14...cha-ching sucka.

jk....just downloaded it...want to have everything loaded cause I wont have time to really play until the weekend.

Anyone get the PS3 Dragon Age Journeys in-game DLC to work?

Modifié par mackloon, 05 novembre 2009 - 04:10 .


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I enjoyed it. I got it at a discount due to Steam's $55 priced DDE, so I was happy. Got some cool armor out of it, too. Haven't used the storage yet...

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i just completed it.

Where is this storage at?

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Storage will be by Levi after you've left the Keep once. Just a trunk that sits by him. Useful though.

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The thing about the DLC is that there's multiple outcomes, allowing for replayability. I came across all sorts of locked chest that I couldn't open and now no longer have access to.





Also, storage appears outside after you leave and come back later.

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Srikandi715 wrote...

Really, to get a good sense of dollar value of DLC, you should be comparing the cost to similar games. Heck, compare it to the SAME game.

As I've said in another thread, $7 is more than 10% of the cost of the normal edition of DA:O. So, does it give you gameplay equivalent to 10% of the game? From all the reports I've read, no. Therefore, it's not worth it.

Let's take another comparison. Torchlight just came out, a smallish but fun ARPG, for $20. $7 is a little more than a third of the cost of Torchlight. Does this DLC provide a third the gameplay of Torchlight? Not by a LONG shot, even if you only play the single-player main dungeon in TL and ignore the infinite dungeon and all the optional side dungeons :P Took me about three days to complete Torchlight's main quest; didn't keep track of how many hours per day, but it was a lot ;)

So, in the realm of computer gaming as entertainment, is it good value for money? I don't think so. Which is why I got so annoyed when I discovered that whether I decided I wanted to get it or not, my base game is infected by the connected NPC and questlog entry :P


That comparison doesn't really work either. It sets the standards far too high. Using your example, no expansion pack would be worth the money since they don't provide an equivalent amount of game time, on average, compared to the price of the original title. DLC can be compared to the original title, but in the form of what it adds. Does that $7 add anything to the game that you want to have and are willing to pay $7 for? Any other way of looking at it has too many holes to work well.