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[FuuTon]

The PC controls in DAI are just absolutely garbage compared to PC controls in DAO and DA2. Below are some examples:

 

• No tooltips: There is no tooltips when you hover your mouse over abilities. So there's no way to tell what an ability does, its cooldown, how much resource it costs, and how much damage it does, except you have to press 'p' to open your character's record and look at the skill stree, which makes it so tedius and incovenient for setting up combos and planning your attacks, especially for people who play higher difficulty than normal such as myself. DAO and DA2 have this feature, how come DAI doesn't?
• No option to group party members: In DAO and DA2, you can select your whole party by pressing Ctrl+A, or if you want to group 2 or 3 members together, you can press Shift+ F1, F2, F3, F4 which makes it easier to group say 2 rogues to focus attack a target, or 2 mages to focus cc a boss, and so on. In DAI, you only have party attack which binds to 'y', party disengage which binds to 'l",  and please correct me if I'm wrong you can't group 2 or more party members together. So let's say I wanted to group Varric and Sera to focus fire a target, I have to select Varric, then click on the target, select Sera, then click on the target...That's just not convenient and not fun to me.
• No mouse scroll: In DAI,Instead of using the mouse to scroll the battlefield in tactical camera, a feature which both DAO and DA2 have, you have to use WASD...I mean why would you use WASD when mouse scroll is much easier, much faster, and something that Dragon Age fans have been used to ?

These features are the things that both DAO and DA2 have, and they're good features, so why not just leave them as they are for DAI, why remove them ?!! I just don't understand...

 

[Lebanese Dude]

o look another thread complaining about trivial inconveniences and remappable keys.

[ORTesc]

o look another thread complaining about trivial inconveniences and remappable keys.

 

The game was obviously designed with a controller in mind. I don't call that a trivial inconvenience.

[- Archangel -]

They aren't trivial no matter how often the white knights say it is.

[DLaren]

The PC controls in DAI are just absolutely garbage compared to PC controls in DAO and DA2. Below are some examples:

 

• No tooltips: There is no tooltips when you hover your mouse over abilities. So there's no way to tell what an ability does, its cooldown, how much resource it costs, and how much damage it does, except you have to press 'p' to open your character's record and look at the skill stree, which makes it so tedius and incovenient for setting up combos and planning your attacks, especially for people who play higher difficulty than normal such as myself. DAO and DA2 have this feature, how come DAI doesn't?
• No option to group party members: In DAO and DA2, you can select your whole party by pressing Ctrl+A, or if you want to group 2 or 3 members together, you can press Shift+ F1, F2, F3, F4 which makes it easier to group say 2 rogues to focus attack a target, or 2 mages to focus cc a boss, and so on. In DAI, you only have party attack which binds to 'y', party disengage which binds to 'l",  and please correct me if I'm wrong you can't group 2 or more party members together. So let's say I wanted to group Varric and Sera to focus fire a target, I have to select Varric, then click on the target, select Sera, then click on the target...That's just not convenient and not fun to me.
• No mouse scroll: In DAI,Instead of using the mouse to scroll the battlefield in tactical camera, a feature which both DAO and DA2 have, you have to use WASD...I mean why would you use WASD when mouse scroll is much easier, much faster, and something that Dragon Age fans have been used to ?

These features are the things that both DAO and DA2 have, and they're good features, so why not just leave them as they are for DAI, why remove them ?!! I just don't understand...

 

...because this is a console game now -- I wouldn't be surprised if the next Dragon Age game is an Xbox exclusive.

[Lebanese Dude]

The game was obviously designed with a controller in mind. I don't call that a trivial inconvenience.

Most issues can be ( and have been ) resolved with some fiddling with key bindings remapping.

If you're too lazy to put some effort into the PC game then just play on a console or buy a controller. Clearly they must have messed up something if the defaults are horrid but fix it yourself instead of crying about it on the forums.

It's like complaining that the food is too cold when the microwave is two feet away.

...and no... most complaints I've seen have boiled down to trivial inconveniences. You can't see ability descriptions in the toolbar? Big whoop you couldn't even get proper numbers in the previous games either. It would be nice to have it but it doesn't affect gameplay at all in the long run.

[FrontlinerDelta]

I have to agree with the OP about lack of tooltips being highly annoying, at least when you're looking at the action bar. You have to go into the skill tree to read the skills and find info on them. I'd like at least a very basic tooltip: Damage - Cooldown - Cost - Bonus Effects (freezes, detonator, etc)

 

And other than not being able to unbind attack from one of the mouse buttons, the controls work fine for me otherwise. 

 

The other two concerns of the OP I won't comment on as I don't use tactical cam and don't like to use it. 

[Dubstob]

o look another thread complaining about trivial inconveniences and remappable keys.

 

If its so trivial why are people complaining on virtually every gaming discussion related to DA:I on every forum i visit?

I didn't see this with Divinity or Witcher2,  or etc. etc.

 

They messed up man. It can be fixed though as Mike said some stuff is bugged or being looked into.

[Ultim Asari]

Oh wow, consoles (whose whole point is to play games) got the better controls?  Golly Gee!

[PlasmaCheese]

No option to group party members: In DAO and DA2, you can select your whole party by pressing Ctrl+A, or if you want to group 2 or 3 members together, you can press Shift+ F1, F2, F3, F4 which makes it easier to group say 2 rogues to focus attack a target, or 2 mages to focus cc a boss, and so on. In DAI, you only have party attack which binds to 'y', party disengage which binds to 'l",  and please correct me if I'm wrong you can't group 2 or more party members together. So let's say I wanted to group Varric and Sera to focus fire a target, I have to select Varric, then click on the target, select Sera, then click on the target...That's just not convenient and not fun to me

 

See, I heard that was true before the game was out and hoped it wasn't true. That sucks as much as gutted tactics. :[

[Lebanese Dude]

If its so trivial why are people complaining on virtually every gaming discussion related to DA:I on every forum i visit?
I didn't see this with Divinity or Witcher2, or etc. etc.

They messed up man. It can be fixed though as Mike said some stuff is bugged or being looked into.

Most complaints are done by people who love to complain. Those that enjoy the game don't bother. Given that gamers are not clustered in one location, seeing complaints "everywhere" is natural.

A large number of problems are

1) Game crashes: largely attributed to the user not updating their driver or installing properly
2) horrible preset controls: can be fixed with some tinkering
3) fetch quests: optional content that only offers extra content compared to its predecessors. present in all RPGs

Then there's the amount of irrational hatred towards Bioware and EA, which leads people to criticize every little fault.

Of course I'm not saying the game is perfect either. There's bound to be bugs in any software release. No game is immune.

The complaining is simply over the top. I'm not even writing these posts to defend Bioware. I'm more irritated that people are letting themselves get pissed over nothing...and yes I have yet to see anything resembling "game breaking" in any thread.

[ShepardsBane]

Another one of these reads......

 

It's kind of hilarious actually. You know they just don't want to admit this game is better than origins and that were not back to the gold ol' days of PC gaming circa '97.

 

I've never seen so many people complain about controls, it's seriously just hilarious.

[Sully13]

Yeah magnets..

how do they work?

[Lebanese Dude]

Yeah magnets..

how do they work?

 

This is real deep.

[Sully13]

well tide goes in tide goes out. you cant explain that.

[RenegadeRoy]

I love drinking the tears of the #PCMasterRace.

 

[- Archangel -]

I love drinking the tears of the #PCMasterRace.

 

I'm sure they're crushed...considering their game looks better...and can play the same as your by adding a controller.

[metatheurgist]

Oh wow, consoles (whose whole point is to play games) got the better controls?  Golly Gee!

No, consoles got the crappy controls. The problem is so did the PC.

[Jazharah]

For #3, you can do it by pressing Shift while in Tactical Mode--that allows you to move the camera with the mouse.

 

Will have to try that out asap! Thank you for pointing it out.

[Majestic Jazz]

I love drinking the tears of the #PCMasterRace.

Lol

[Murloc Knight]

While I agree that the tac cam can be resolved by pressing shift key, I don't understand why they designed it to be used with WASD in the first place. and also, is there a way to click other party members while on tac came without the camera moving to them?

[Majestic Jazz]

I'm sure they're crushed...considering their game looks better...and can play the same as your by adding a controller.

So why do they still complain about every thing in this game while the console folks, even the 360 and PS3 players are having a blast?

[Project Danny]

Because console master race! Pc users think they are so awesome and pro but they are not.... I love the fact I sold my pc to buy an xbox one... I no longer have to deal with any problems at all.... no bad fps no needing to update drivers lower game settings or change controls... put in and play....

On every console forum of every game I play I see 0 complaints at all everyone's happy and playing.... yet every pc game forum there is complaints over every little thing even stupid things.... pc gamers just love to ****** over nothing...

LONG LOVE CONSOLE MASTER RACE!

[- Archangel -]

Either group acting like a superior douche is just that, a superior douche.