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[Ocelot113]

When you look at the key binding and realize that a single button is being forced to do 5 different unrelated things, that is simply a port from a controller. Because there are so few buttons on controllers they HAVE to make them multifunctional. And what makes sense on a controller, say the ( B ) button opened doors when prompted, ( B ) jumped when exploring, ( B ) changed enemies when in tactical view, and ( B ) swapped menus when in UI, (I doubt that's the actual order of things, but this is just an example of how keys can be bound to a single button) does not relate well with PC controls as we have (E) for opening doors, (TAB) for changing targets, (SPACE) for jumping, and (Scroll Wheel/ 1,2,3,4,5) for swapping menus. Because those are still connected from the console port, the functions can no longer be split properly to individual keys, but can only be bound to a single key.

The lack of care that BioWare has shown, for PC specific controls, is absolutely blatant when you understand this. They did not even take the time to separate their functions for individual keybindings.
 

*** I would encourage everyone that won't be playing the game with these controls head to Origins and get a refund. A $60-$70 game sitting on your computer unused is not serving any purpose besides reinforcing BioWares decisions. Get your money back in the meantime while we wait and see if they change it. ***

 

Origins Client > Help > Order History > (+) Dragon Age: Inquisition > REQUEST REFUND
There is only a limited time you can apply for a refund, so I'd advise you do so with haste.
(Tip: Changing [Last 30 days] to [All] may help in finding your purchase)

 

If they do actually implement some more responsive controls for 3rd person, PC specific controls with camera/character movement, PC centric tactics controls, and more extensive key bindings options, then I will be the first to re-purchase. However, I can't support this game in the state it is currently in.
 

I hope this helps others get a little relief back.


P.S. (It has been acknowledged. A good start. )
http://forum.bioware...unity-concerns/
 

[Hax_the_unjust]

Sad, I use to love Bioware.  They were my #1 gaming developer but not so sure about that anymore.  Its nothing personal to the members of the staff but I will be cautious before purchasing another Bioware game blindly... next time no pre order, I will wait for reviews and patches or sales.

[Paul E Dangerously]

I hate to tell you this, but the controls are just as irritating on a controller.

[Ocelot113]

Sad, I use to love Bioware.  They were my #1 gaming developer but not so sure about that anymore.  Its nothing personal to the members of the staff but I will be cautious before purchasing another Bioware game blindly... next time no pre order, I will wait for reviews and patches or sales.

I completely agree. And frankly the most thrilled I have been, SHOCKINGLY, lol has been with Origins. I requested a refund last night and got an email this morning confirming the refund eligibility. Fast and easy, better than Steam on that note, which is not something I say lightly.

[Brogan]

Haven't installed yet, but what you describe is exactly what I was afraid of in late August...  when it seemed they just hadn't gotten around to showing us pc gameplay.

 

Turns out they likely hadn't even started programming the pc specific controls yet, which would account for the release delay, and explains how the programming was absolutely console-centric.  More then likely because of the marketing demands placed upon them.

[Hax_the_unjust]

 

I completely agree. And frankly the most thrilled I have been, SHOCKINGLY, lol has been with Origins. I requested a refund last night and got an email this morning confirming the refund eligibility. Fast and easy, better than Steam on that note, which is not something I say lightly.

 

 

I wish I had purchased the game for PS4.  You know I never expected in the least the game would be so riddled with bugs, glitches, crashes, fps drops on my PC.  That was a shock to me, I thought I was about to be amazed by a quality video game when I clicked play at midnight of launch... but sadly, after many many crashes, mouse stop working, audio failure, texture bugs, and all around crap that ruins your experience I am a bit bitter.  I would take a refund and purchase it on PS4 but I am already someways into the story and don't want to start over.  I will say its sad that the PC gamers always get put on the backburner!  *shurgs* I guess our money isn't good enough.

[HighChronicler]

The PC Controls are bad, but are they really worth giving up the ability to experience the game. Yes they are VERY Bad. Yes they CLUNKY, Yes it is not okay on BioWare's behalf. However, I will keep my copy and I will hope, plead, beg and if necessary force the controls to change.

[AsmodeusML]

The PC Controls are bad, but are they really worth giving up the ability to experience the game. Yes they are VERY Bad. Yes they CLUNKY, Yes it is not okay on BioWare's behalf. However, I will keep my copy and I will hope, plead, beg and if necessary force the controls to change.

I agree, think it through: you will be punishing yourself by declining to play this game

[Hax_the_unjust]

The PC Controls are bad, but are they really worth giving up the ability to experience the game. Yes they are VERY Bad. Yes they CLUNKY, Yes it is not okay on BioWare's behalf. However, I will keep my copy and I will hope, plead, beg and if necessary force the controls to change.

I would agree but for me the controls are tip of the iceberg I am experiencing a lot of game breakers.  I pop onto these forums once every other crash to read updates... I probably wouldn't be on these forums of the game had worked as intended.  Sadly, I am a victim of circumstance!  I am hoping Bioware makes a announcement about working on PC issues and ETA of a patch or hotfix.

[Firebug6]

Yeah, the controls are total garbage.

Makes me sad but at least I don't have to play it on a console.

[HighChronicler]

I agree, think it through: you will be punishing yourself by declining to play this game

Oh, I'm still planning on playing it. My previous Statement still applies.

[Ocelot113]

The PC Controls are bad, but are they really worth giving up the ability to experience the game. Yes they are VERY Bad. Yes they CLUNKY, Yes it is not okay on BioWare's behalf. However, I will keep my copy and I will hope, plead, beg and if necessary force the controls to change.

Yeah, absolutely. If you think the game is playable and enjoyable still, then don't give it back. That would be crazy. lol But me, personally, and I am guessing I am not alone based on most of the forums (and two friends of mine, that I know of, that declined to buy based on the controls already), the way the controls are now will absolutely tarnish the entire play through. I would much rather get my money back, and by doing so let BioWare/EA know, it's not okay with me the way that it is currently, and if they fix it... I will re-buy and be able to fully enjoy the game the way I expected to when I pre-ordered months ago. If they don't fix it, then I won't be regretting giving my $70 (sorry have to do it, because it's honest) like I did with Dragon Age 2.

(I actually didn't mind the controls for DA2 on PC like some (I thought they were quite responsive and fairly intuitive for a veteran PC gamer, which was good imo), but was more upset by the story, size of the world, small choice of personality in responses (I love the idea of a voice acted MC, but being able to not only say what I would say, but say it in the tone that I would say it is a near impossible feat. and IMO a huge reason many feel DA has never been able to recapture the magic of DA:O, whether they are aware of that particular disposition they have or not), and simplified follower customization [ability trees and outfitting])

[Personality Disorder]

I agree, think it through: you will be punishing yourself by declining to play this game

 

People should have the courage of their convictions. They are worth nothing if a slightest sacrifice in order to stand by them seems unfathomable.

[AussieWolf]

I wish I had purchased the game for PS4.  You know I never expected in the least the game would be so riddled with bugs, glitches, crashes, fps drops on my PC.  That was a shock to me, I thought I was about to be amazed by a quality video game when I clicked play at midnight of launch... but sadly, after many many crashes, mouse stop working, audio failure, texture bugs, and all around crap that ruins your experience I am a bit bitter.  I would take a refund and purchase it on PS4 but I am already someways into the story and don't want to start over.  I will say its sad that the PC gamers always get put on the backburner!  *shurgs* I guess our money isn't good enough.

 

This in a nutshell is why i fear that the PC market will end up being shelved by developers who will focus just on consoles. You have experienced all these "bugs" and yet, I have experienced nothing but a smooth, enjoyable, gaming experience on my PC. My question, simply, is how old is your rig ? Have you updated all drivers ? Is your system above minimum specs etc ?

 

I have 10 mates who brought the game. Only one had some of the issues you described. His system was above spec and in trouble shooting we found it was a software issue on his end that was causing his conflict. He had a old driver for his motherboard. A lot of people when they say a story like yours, and mention, that they have updated drivers etc but still have problems only refer to vid,OS drivers....download your mother board drivers, on board sound drivers and even software drivers like media player etc....one of those random software packages that are always outdated tend to be the issue.

[Allan Schumacher]

Hey everyone,

 

Thanks for all the feedback.  I just want to give a heads up to a post that Mark just made regarding PC controls here:

http://forum.bioware...unity-concerns/

[Lostspace]

The PC Controls are bad, but are they really worth giving up the ability to experience the game. Yes they are VERY Bad. Yes they CLUNKY, Yes it is not okay on BioWare's behalf. However, I will keep my copy and I will hope, plead, beg and if necessary force the controls to change.

 

I have hope/belief that the story itself is worth playing the game for.  But, as for playing with the controls "as is" ... not gonna happen.  So, despite the fact that I was impatiently awaiting the release of DAI, I'll keep waiting to play until some sort of patch is made.

[ButterRum]

I am confused. There is a lot of complaint about the PC controls, but are players allowed to rebind their controls? I'd imagine that would fix the problem.

[Brillobreaks]

I am confused. There is a lot of complaint about the PC controls, but are players allowed to rebind their controls? I'd imagine that would fix the problem.

 

You can't rebind mouse buttons.  Or bind side keys and such on a mouse with more than 3 buttons.  And a lot of the control problems aren't things that might be fixed by key rebinding.

[Ocelot113]

I am confused. There is a lot of complaint about the PC controls, but are players allowed to rebind their controls? I'd imagine that would fix the problem.

That's actually what my topic was about. You can rebind some things, but for most PC gamers there are not enough functions to rebind properly. And some keys are blatantly off limits for binding, such as the mouse buttons, including 4&5 (side buttons).

[HighChronicler]

You can't rebind mouse buttons.  Or bind side keys and such on a mouse with more than 3 buttons.  And a lot of the control problems aren't things that might be fixed by key rebinding.

 

I have a 5-button mouse, I can only use 2 of them. the Left and Right. The Hold R or LMB to Attack is frustrating beyond belief and a number of issues just make it bad.

 

 

I have hope/belief that the story itself is worth playing the game for.  But, as for playing with the controls "as is" ... not gonna happen.  So, despite the fact that I was impatiently awaiting the release of DAI, I'll keep waiting to play until some sort of patch is made.

 

I'm just gonna hold out and Stick to my guns. To me, I'm showing ultimate loyalty to BioWare by going through this mess with them.

[Klystron]

I am confused. There is a lot of complaint about the PC controls, but are players allowed to rebind their controls? I'd imagine that would fix the problem.

You can rebind keys but there is no rebinding of mouse functions and you can't use modifiers on other keys, shift and control are treated as regular keys.

Also there are several other issues with zoom, tactical camera, interacting with objects and targeting that wouldn't be fixed by key remapping.

edit: sry, I type slow... 

[Ocelot113]

I have a 5-button mouse, I can only use 2 of them. the Left and Right. The Hold R or LMB to Attack is frustrating beyond belief and a number of issues just make it bad.

 

 

 

I'm just gonna hold out and Stick to my guns. To me, I'm showing ultimate loyalty to BioWare by going through this mess with them.

That's cool. Personally I have very little company loyalty, but huge game loyalty. If a game is heading away from a direction that its predecessor displayed and I loved, or am loyal too, then I fight for it, is all. Just different focuses of loyalty . It's all good.

[helpthisguyplease]

 Well at least EA did not force their hand and made a day 1 dlc. But its does not change the fact that the game is boring in combat.

[Melca36]

I use a PC and tweaked some settings. I have no problems with it.  Its called being patient. It takes some getting used and a few tweaks but it works.  

[Brillobreaks]

I have a 5-button mouse, I can only use 2 of them. the Left and Right. The Hold R or LMB to Attack is frustrating beyond belief and a number of issues just make it bad.

 

 

 

I'm just gonna hold out and Stick to my guns. To me, I'm showing ultimate loyalty to BioWare by going through this mess with them.

 

I don't play games a lot anymore.  Basically Blizzard games, with Civilization and Dragon age being my only purchases for the year.  Firaxis patched their new Civilization game a few days after launch, and broke the multiplayer.  It's remained broken for the last month and a half.  Between that, and this mess, I'm all loyaltied out.  Releasing a PC game with non-functional keyboard and mouse controls just isn't OK.