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#2551
Dubya75

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You are right, and I am sorry if it came out like that.

It wasn't' my intention.

But at this point I feel all the suggestion that could be made were made, and there is no response.

So now frustration is taking over.

But again sorry if I came out like that.

Apparently the story is great - if only we could play it...

 

That's alright. I know people are just frustrated. So am I.



#2552
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DAI and good RPG? Buahaha, DAI is still good (but buggy) game, as a ''normall'' game 7/10, and as a RPG game 3/10 from me.

 

That is your opinion, isn't it.



#2553
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Wait, let me get this straight....

 

Bioware promised us a PC game. They did NOT deliver on that promise, and your argument is that because we are upset about the empty promise about a PC game, Bioware should spitefully deny us PC games in the future?

 

We all know DAI is an amazing game. No one is arguing that.

What we ARE arguing is "Made for PC gamers by PC gamers", which was a straight faced lie.

 

Now  I can only speak for myself when I say, I get more than a little upset when I am sold a lie. Maybe you are OK with this, but some of us really are not.

+1

I feel like came back in time and we have discussion about the "we won't have A,B,C ending in Mass Effect" And then we got Red, Blue, Green ending at the end.


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To all those unable to play I wouldnt be all that upset if I were you. Its cool to see the detail of the graphics but really the game is not much fun to play with the K/M issues, the inability to zoom out in the tac cam, the constant requirement to mash a button in order to attack, and having to manually manuver over to every item in order to loot.

 

I truly wish I had been in time to request a refund. I knew better and I should have waited 6 months or so for it to be patched up before I bought it, shame on me. It seriously appears as though the developers and testers did little to no work on the PC version of this game.

 

Mordor and Skyrim absolutely blow DAI away as DAI is in its current state,



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Not to add fuel to the fire, but a lot of folks are discovering that there is a limit of 250 save slots....for PC!

 

Personally, I can live with this, but it is yet again an indication of how half-heartedly this game got ported to PC...

 

Wow Bioware, just....WOW! 

After years of intense work on this masterpiece, it is tarnished so quickly through negligence. 



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(...) It is particularly frustrating to have this enormously wonderful game but having to fight with the controls all the time. It should not be this way! (...)

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+1

 

 I respect people who like playing DAI  with controller, but for myself without real kb+m tacs like in DAO and without autoattack I dont enjoy fighting very much.

 

However I own a PC controller (bought it for DS 2) and use it to do some sightseeing in the hinterlands at the moment waiting desperately for a patch to deliver real(<--just IMHO) RPG access to this wonderful setting/landscape/music/athmosphere of DAI . So I hope they fix it soon. If not:  there are plenty other RPGs to enjoy soon/at the moment like PoE, Bannersaga, Torment; DOS etc


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#2557
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Why don't they at the very least hotfix the tactical mode which snaps back to characters that you select during combat? They even acknowledged the bug so what's the deal? This happens to me in every single fight, every one, so its kind of a big deal. Unless they're completely overhauling this tactical mode instead which would make be happier. A free-floating camera that isn't tied to the ground with full free tilt/angle control would be a hell of a lot better than this thing.

I swear this tactical mode is just an invisible character that is tied to the terrain. That's why it has no proper tilt or angle control, that's why it doesn't zoom out farther, and that's why it gets stuck on anything like wooden fences or small rocks and doesn't go through walls. Why would you make it stick to the world mesh??

Absolute abysmal development. This is just so amateur... with their budget and hiring capability this tactical mode should not be this bad. Obviously I am not a happy customer. If I could refund at this point, I WOULD.


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Why don't they at the very least hotfix the tactical mode which snaps back to characters that you select during combat? They even acknowledged the bug so what's the deal? This happens to me in every single fight, every one, so its kind of a big deal. Unless they're completely overhauling this tactical mode instead which would make be happier. A free-floating camera that isn't tied to the ground with full free tilt/angle control would be a hell of a lot better than this thing.

I swear this tactical mode is just an invisible character that is tied to the terrain. That's why it has no proper tilt or angle control, that's why it doesn't zoom out farther, and that's why it gets stuck on anything like wooden fences or small rocks and doesn't go through walls.

 

If they were going to do that you'd think they could've at least given the invisible character superman powers. :P 

 

But yes, it's very frustrating to get stuck in the bushes. 



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If they were going to do that you'd think they could've at least given the invisible character superman powers. :P

 

But yes, it's very frustrating to get stuck in the bushes. 

Well that's the question isn't it? Why is it as bad as it is, and how on earth did allan and his team (the people responsible for testing tactical mode) not tell them that it had major functionality issues in terms of basic functionality. 

At this point all I really want to know from bioware is if they're fixing the tactical mode or not. If not, give me my refund.


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#2560
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it doesn't matter if not *all* of the pc users are having issues. The problem is is that a VAST amount of PC users are having problems. I could give two shits if it's working for you... for thousands of others they can't even get passed character creation without it crashing. 

 

My point was that there's no way Bioware can possibly test all combinations of hardware.  So the people who are astonished that Bioware would release a game in such a state possibly shouldn't be, and maybe could tone down the hate.

 

Then in an attempt to help, I took the time to copy down and post the settings that are working for me.  Maybe they would work for someone else?

I guess no good deed goes unpunished huh?

 

After reading your post, I've gone from being in the mood to help to "giving two shits" whether the game ever works for you.  If there's such a thing as karma, it never will.


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Not to add fuel to the fire, but a lot of folks are discovering that there is a limit of 250 save slots....for PC!

 

Personally, I can live with this, but it is yet again an indication of how half-heartedly this game got ported to PC...

 

Wow Bioware, just....WOW! 

After years of intense work on this masterpiece, it is tarnished so quickly through negligence. 

Jesus, why in the nine hells would you need more than few saves? 250 Seems like an unreal number in the first place.

I can't imagine you would actively use that many. IF you really are into archiving every second of the game, you might as well zip the files and burn them to... I don't know, 250 CDs? And leave the 1 or 2 you are actually using.



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Time spent on the forums take time away from actually programming. Do you want the devs to hug you and tell you it'll be okay, or do you want them to work?

Do they (whomever they are, but in this case you're referring to devs) want a job in the first place?

 

Did you complain about all the time away from the work for the promotional sales hype? That took a lot of time away. It involved travel too.  Upon reflection, maybe you are right: they should not have done anything apart from keep their noses to the grindstone until the game was ready to be sold? Maybe the game could have been finished on time (the first deadline time). Then it could have been promoted. Everybody would have been happy.

 

Your one-sided posts leave your motives here suspect. What are you doing on the PC Community Concerns topic again? Do you have a concern/problem? I am ignoring you until I am confident you have a problem-focused reason to be posting on a PC Community Concerns topic. Just saying.


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Jesus, why in the nine hells would you need more than few saves? 250 Seems like an unreal number in the first place.

I can't imagine you would actively use that many. IF you really are into archiving every second of the game, you might as well zip the files and burn them to... I don't know, 250 CDs? And leave the 1 or 2 you are actually using.

Multiple characters (not that I can tell them apart anyway aside from a random number generated in my Saves file) will mean lots of save slots. And the fact that there's no folder for each character is telling just by itself. When playing Origins or DA2 I could just delete the folder of a character I didn't want to play anymore, but the current save method is making it much more difficult. People will easily reach 250 saves on replays, and if I have the hard drive space, then I should be able to 1000 saves.


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Jesus, why in the nine hells would you need more than few saves? 250 Seems like an unreal number in the first place.

I can't imagine you would actively use that many. IF you really are into archiving every second of the game, you might as well zip the files and burn them to... I don't know, 250 CDs? And leave the 1 or 2 you are actually using.

Because the game is so buggy, so many questlines are broken, npcs missing etc that every time I enter new areas, meet new persons or do something critical I need to save in case I discover something missing or broken in quests. So yeah, those saveslots disappear quickly,


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Bioware promised us a PC game. They did NOT deliver on that promise, and your argument is that because we are upset about the empty promise about a PC game, Bioware should spitefully deny us PC games in the future?

 

Did not actually say that.  Nor do I believe that.

 

I'm playing the game on a PC.  It's not that I'm okay with being lied to.  It's that I don't feel like I have been lied to. 

 

And actually, many people are in fact saying the game is garbage simply because it isn't as optimized for their control scheme preference as other PC games are.  While I understand that argument, it shouldn't override everything else the game has to offer.  My problem isn't that people have negative comments to make about certain aspects of the game.  It's the level of venom in those comments and the almost complete inability to see the good things due to the blind rage.


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OK, so 103 pages...  I hope everyone who needed to get their posts out explaining how everyone else's point of view needs to include their own are finished...  honestly, I don't blame anyone for this reaction, as this situation sucks for all of us (at least for those who are legit here because they can't play or are having issues playing the pc version)

 

Here's what has happened that I think everybody needs to be aware of:

 

Allan came on late last night and got into the issues at hand, he explained that he is a part of the group actively looking ay issues for patching, he explained that he was part of the QA team that tested the pc ui before release AND that as a tester for all 5 platforms, a controller was what he was used to (and that's fine people - in and of itself).  He also conceded that many people are clearly not happy with the released version - which to me is an indication that they will be making some changes.

 

He detailed that the process is ongoing, that the gamebreaking bugs, CTD's and the serious issues obviously are taking precedence, and that alot of the issues brought up (I linked him some of the big list threads in the Feedback page), as well as many others are being looked at.  He did NOT promise anything specific, other than saying multiple patches are in the works.  That is progress.

 

Now, clearly we all knew that a game this size would need to be patched.  We knew there would be issues.  I hope first patch is released as soon as possible, I would really like to start playing this game!  But let's put away the soap boxes for a bit and see what Bioware has in store for us, at least for the next 1-2 days.

 

I have to get this turkey out the oven now.  I'm sure many of you are doing the same.  Happy Thanksgiving, people!


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Do they (whomever they are, but in this case you're referring to devs) want a job in the first place?

 

Did you complain about all the time away from the work for the promotional sales hype? That took a lot of time away. It involved travel too.  Upon reflection, maybe you are right: they should not have done anything apart from keep their noses to the grindstone until the game was ready to be sold? Maybe the game could have been finished on time (the first deadline time). Then it could have been promoted. Everybody would have been happy.

 

Your one-sided posts leave your motives here suspect. What are you doing on the PC Community Concerns topic again? Do you have a concern/problem? I am ignoring you until I am confident you have a problem-focused reason to be posting on a PC Community Concerns topic. Just saying.

 

*Oh, dear. I have to justify my presence here to a random poster who not only is not even playing the game, but encouraging EA's demise through articles in various financial publications essentially ensuring that Bioware doesn't have a home. Okay, do I just mention all the other stuff I've mentioned previously like the kb/m controls or tac cam or walk/run toggle or lack of ability slots or the fact that I was getting DirectX errors several times an hour and crashing to desktop? Is that enough? Will he believe me and validate my legitimate concerns? ...... so scared..... *

 

Dude, please. You're not playing. You returned your game. You don't have concerns. How about you leave the concerns to the people with a vested interest in playing, e.g., me?


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OK, so 103 pages...  I hope everyone who needed to get their posts out explaining how everyone else's point of view needs to include their own are finished...  honestly, I don't blame anyone for this reaction, as this situation sucks for all of us (at least for those who are legit here because they can't play or are having issues playing the pc version)

 

Here's what has happened that I think everybody needs to be aware of:

 

Allan came on late last night and got into the issues at hand, he explained that he is a part of the group actively looking ay issues for patching, he explained that he was part of the QA team that tested the pc ui before release AND that as a tester for all 5 platforms, a controller was what he was used to (and that's fine people - in and of itself).  He also conceded that many people are clearly not happy with the released version - which to me is an indication that they will be making some changes.

 

He detailed that the process is ongoing, that the gamebreaking bugs, CTD's and the serious issues obviously are taking precedence, and that alot of the issues brought up (I linked him some of the big list threads in the Feedback page), as well as many others are being looked at.  He did NOT promise anything specific, other than saying multiple patches are in the works.  That is progress.

 

Now, clearly we all knew that a game this size would need to be patched.  We knew there would be issues.  I hope first patch is released as soon as possible, I would really like to start playing this game!  But let's put away the soap boxes for a bit and see what Bioware has in store for us, at least for the next 1-2 days.

 

I have to get this turkey out the oven now.  I'm sure many of you are doing the same.  Happy Thanksgiving, people!

 

 

Can you post the link ol good sir. I want to read what Allan has said. ;)

and thank you for the new information



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Need to note down that Tactical camera works 100 % with a controller and it's easy and convenient to use as well.

#2570
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Why does DAI: lags especially on skyhold,haven, and other villages I did past the minimum specs and currently my graphic settings are auto and I did try lowering it to medium but it still kinda lags about 18 fps... totally ruins the immersion for me

and especiall at the beggining when your character wakes up the game lags so hard at the house... maybe because of the fire or something.

 

But I can run Far Cry 4 in med settings w/ no lag or problems w/ the occasional stutters that has been fix already. yet I did not meet the minimum specs....

*Run the game before the patches and I was able to finish.

 

Specs:

I5 3210m

Nvidia gtx660m 2gb

8gb ram


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Well that's the question isn't it? Why is it as bad as it is, and how on earth did allan and his team (the people responsible for testing tactical mode) not tell them that it had major functionality issues in terms of basic functionality. 

At this point all I really want to know from bioware is if they're fixing the tactical mode or not. If not, give me my refund.

 

I would love a long technical post about why things happened the way they did. Even if I don't understand a lick of it, at least it would be an explanation beyond PR We apologize for the inconvenience. 


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#2572
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Because the game is so buggy, so many questlines are broken, npcs missing etc that every time I enter new areas, meet new persons or do something critical I need to save in case I discover something missing or broken in quests. So yeah, those saveslots disappear quickly,

 

I keep about 3 saves and I overwrite the one that was saved longest ago. 

 

Why not just overwrite instead of keeping every single save slot open? 



#2573
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Multiple characters (not that I can tell them apart anyway aside from a random number generated in my Saves file) will mean lots of save slots. And the fact that there's no folder for each character is telling just by itself. When playing Origins or DA2 I could just delete the folder of a character I didn't want to play anymore, but the current save method is making it much more difficult. People will easily reach 250 saves on replays, and if I have the hard drive space, then I should be able to 1000 saves.

 

Your saves mix, are you sure? Mine had a button to switch characters... 


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#2574
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Mordor and Skyrim absolutely blow DAI away as DAI is in its current state,

 

Oh Lord no. I got bored of Skyrim very quickly. Even with the crashes I love this game a lot more.


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#2575
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No matter how you feel about the game release, these are still people who have put in years of work. Without them there would be no game to complain about.

 

Please be respectful and mature. 

 

And by the same token, those people like the earlier poster who feel so aggrieved don't feel that Bioware has been too respectful to them.  Does that mean every single coder and designer doesn't care and "It's just a job"?  No.  But Bioware the company is the front, and if they deliver a poor product they take the brunt.

 

Do I support that poster's use of language?  Not particularly, but I support their reason and sentiment.