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Lots of PC players with controller are playing just fine.

You're not hearing from many of them because they ARE playing the game.

Graphics on PC will be much better than PS3. :)

 

Uhm....it's a PC game.....WHY the **** should we have to use a console controller for a PC game?

 

Sorry, but that was one of the most ignorant comments


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Lots of PC players with controller are playing just fine.

You're not hearing from many of them because they ARE playing the game.

Maybe Bioware just forgot to mention ...

"Made for the PC, using a controller."


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Uhm....it's a PC game.....WHY the **** should we have to use a console controller for a PC game?

 

Sorry, but that was one of the most ignorant comments

 

REread what i was responding too.

He's comparing to playing on a PS3.

Last time i checked PS3 isn't KBM playable?

So he's used to controller.  Valid assumption no?



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Maybe Bioware just forgot to mention ...

"Made for the PC, using a controller."

 

Last I heard it was playable with KBM.  Just not meeting preferences or precedence.


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Did you eat too many sour candies today? :)

I highlighted all your subtexts hidden in your post.

Buggy mess? 

Better read some of the very positive posts where people finished the game and loved it.

Unless you like one sided.

What game is perfect from outset, especially a game of this scale?

I'm on a PC just meeting recommended specs and I'm doing fine.

 

The BIG question you need to ask yourself is for every person having an issue how many are playing and having fun (with a few bugs that all games have)?

 

Yes, many of the positive reviews made cogent points. That's fine and I am glad that roughly 50% of the people who have written a review thought it was good or great. However, that does not detract from the fact that another 50% of players have been experiencing a myriad assortment of bugs and glitches ranging from minor cosmetic problems to total PC lockups.

 

That is the point I am making; that for many users the game is literally, not figuratively, unplayable. It has been out for 10 days now, and there has been nothing substantive from EA nor Bioware. Allan has been here to make vague and open ended assurances that there is a work in progress. Contrasted with other games which had major disastrous realeases (Unity and Warlords of Draenor), those developers had already fixed or compensated their players for releasing a shitty product while the fixed the technical problems.


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Lots of PC players with controller are playing just fine.

You're not hearing from many of them because they ARE playing the game.

Graphics on PC will be much better than PS3. :)

Can someone help me here?  I'm trying to use my controller, it's hooked up, set up, turned on and all the bells and whistles go off that tell me it's working but I can't get it to unlock in the menu to change my controls over to it from keyboard.  I'm not very technical minded so I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong.



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I'd like to start by saying that I think a lot of people on here haven't properly read / understood the System Requirements.

 

I would also like to say that when the System requirements came out, I immediately presumed I would need to buy a new CPU for my PC, and probably a new Video Card.

 

I am glad to say I was wrong.

 

I have an Intel i3-3240 CPU, which is technically only a Dual-Core CPU, not the Quad-Core stated in the System Requirements. Nevertheless, the game runs flawlessly. I have had no issues with CTD, Audio Stutter, Menu freezing, or any of the other problems people have been complaining about.

 

I did have a slow experience in cutscenes and conversations, but after using the benchmark tool, I found a maximum FPS on my system of 5.6 FPS. Yep, that's only 5 frames per second. So I upgraded my video card from an ASUS Nvidia GeForce GT610 to a Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 750ti, and ran the benchmark tool again. I was on 54 FPS. And that's all using the "Low" graphics setting...

 

I've played now a total of about 35 hours of this game - the first 30 were with my old card, and a 5 FPS system.

 

So this game is NOT unplayable. It DOES have poor PC controls, and there are some design choices I just do not comprehend (like the looting system / radius, and the inventory management / crafting system not speaking to each other) but those are personal preferences, not game breaking issues.

 

For anyone who'd like to question my gaming history, here's a brief synopsis: I have been playing PC games since I built my first rig in 1990, on an 086 CPU base. I've played mainly RPG's, everything from Zork to Wizardry to Quest For Glory to BG and now Mass Effect and Dragon Age. The first MMO I played was The Old Republic, followed by Elder Scrolls Online. Furthermore, I don't own a console, so all of my gaming is on PC, and PC only.

 

The point I'm trying to make here, and I'll admit it's taking a while, is that the issues people are complaining about are either cosmetic, or because their system has issues.

 

But the way I judge an RPG is to ask the question "Could I pretend I was someone else living in a different world, where I cared about the things that happened?" And to that question, I think the answer is a resounding yes. The NPC interactions and conversations are engaging and realistic. The world (with the exception of spawning times) is quite realistic, and is amazingly visually detailed. The story in and of itself is great, easy to go through, and rewarding for everything you do.

 

So, basically, I love the game. I hate some of the implementation design choices, such as having a compass, not a minimap, and having it in the bottom left rather than the top right (or left, but I'm a rightie so right is more natural for me). I also hate the way the crafting system needs you to have memorised the stats of your character's gear, because it won't offer a comparison to what you're currently wearing. I REALLY hate that there's a functionality in Multiplayer that's missing in Single-player - Item salvaging.

 

But these hates are small frustrations in light of the massive open world of content that we have to explore in this game.

 

So calm down people. Check your system specs. Check your Anti-virus software. If you don't have AV software, get some, then check it. Make sure you're running a 64-bit OS, and not a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit system. Check your drivers. Disable any in-game overlays, and learn to be patient with your system.


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The game so far is amazing... I can't really say so far since I'm approximately 60 hours into the game. Been doing everything possible. Almost level 18, killed 4 High Dragons (Epic Boss Fights are Epic). And probably only 30% done with the story or even 40%. I just LOVE exploring and completing everything.

 

I play the game with KB/M and it feels fine for me, yea I admit the movement seems abit wonky but you get used it. I've read that people are complaining about the Left Click for attack and Right-Click for targeting is weird, I do admit it is weird but I easily adjusted even though I've played WoW for 10yrs. I Tried Controller and it didn't feel that great for combat. Plus I have bindings for 5-8 (R.Z,X,C) for easier access. Which are the same bindings I had when I played WoW. You can actually bind Q,E,R,Z,X,C because they serve no purpose (well for me). I don't really Strafe because I use my mouse alot to look around, quick turning and you already kind of strafe when you hold RMB down and move with A,D.

 

I went through the issues like many were having. First it was the, Directx errors, CTD. I have only gotten the pink/purple ( http://imgur.com/PFcUO0c) screen once and got a massive FPS drop, I just alt-tab out and in to remove and FPS shot back up to normal 70 (Ultra). It was about only an hour worth of headache trying to make the game playable. After I've done the possible fixes w/ the issues I was having I haven't crashed in about 50hrs. Well maybe an occasional CTD but that's nothing major. Specs: i7-3770k - EVGA GTX 780 - 16GB RAM.

 

My brother had a tougher time making the game work since he had an AMD GPU. He was crashing literally every 5mins, massive screen freezes that he needed to reboot his PC. Also was getting alot of DirectX errors (even though we re-installed DirectX because it seemed that it fixed other users issues) and CTD. We manage to fix the issues after like 4hrs of troubleshooting. Now he under clocked his GPU (which helped other AMD users as well) and started using the AMD Mantle and so far he hasn't had a severe crash in 50hrs. Maybe an occasional CTD but that's it.

 

Since we're having so many problems, many people are straying away from the game on PC and going off to play it on Consoles (booooo :D). You guys did mess up badly man... giving the PC Platform a bad rap and making people stay away because of all the issues. Not many people know how to troubleshoot effectively or troubleshoot at all or have the patience to fix the issues.


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Ok, video game social scientists, here's more anecdotal data for you. Tomorrow I am going to try to play using an Xbox 360 controller on my PC. My left hand hurts from all the WASD looting.

I do seem to have the banter bug but everything else is running fine on my 3-year-old gaming rig which meets all the recommended requirements.
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To all the bioware employees that are reading, moderating and commenting in this thread and others on the forums i would like to say that i appreciate the effort.  A lot of the comments and information is quite helpful and the possible patches and updates sound like they will make the game much more enjoyable, or at least playable. 

 

The problem is that there is no longer any reason for me or anyone else reading these forums to believe a single word that you say.  The marketing for Inquisition (made for PC) is one of the biggest and most blatant lies that have been told to gamers in years. 

 

20 years of good will, trust and loyalty gone overnight.

 

I hope it was worth it.

I believe they said, a game built from the ground up for the PC.

 

They pretty  much lied to our faces.



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Yes, many of the positive reviews made cogent points. That's fine and I am glad that roughly 50% of the people who have written a review thought it was good or great. However, that does not detract from the fact that another 50% of players have been experiencing a myriad assortment of bugs and glitches ranging from minor cosmetic problems to total PC lockups.

 

That is the point I am making; that for many users the game is literally, not figuratively, unplayable. It has been out for 10 days now, and there has been nothing substantive from EA nor Bioware. Allan has been here to make vague and open ended assurances that there is a work in progress. Contrasted with other games which had major disastrous realeases (Unity and Warlords of Draenor), those developers had already fixed or compensated their players for releasing a shitty product while the fixed the technical problems.

 

50%? Source please.

You probably know that people with issues have way more visibility than  people who are happily gaming.

Only EA/Bioware will know the true numbers based on origin feedback.

 

Unplayable comes to a measure of degrees. 

If you can't play because of stuttering - turn down your res, adjust your expectation,  wait for patch or don't play the game until it's fixed.

If you can't play because of menu freezes, some have that b/c they don't meet recommended. 

Others I'm not sure. I do know I turned off my security software for a test and I got menu freeze too. Turned on gaming mode and I was fine and have been fine since.

Others can't won't play because they want the UI or tac cam to be setup a certain way.  Still playable.  Just not the way they like. 

 

This is a whole new game engine where they have had to do all kinds of things to make it work. 

I think a bit of patience and understanding is in order.

 

You don't think they want to get these issues resolve?  Srsly?


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Did you eat too many sour candies today? :)
I highlighted all your subtexts hidden in your post.
Buggy mess? 
Better read some of the very positive posts where people finished the game and loved it.
Unless you like one sided.
What game is perfect from outset, especially a game of this scale?
I'm on a PC just meeting recommended specs and I'm doing fine.
 
The BIG question you need to ask yourself is for every person having an issue how many are playing and having fun (with a few bugs that all games have)?


I have the recommended specs, I'm not having fun with all the low fps that I have on the camps, on heaven, the hinterlands. It changes from 50-60fps to 30ish just turnig the camera around? Why this is happenig?
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Can someone help me here?  I'm trying to use my controller, it's hooked up, set up, turned on and all the bells and whistles go off that tell me it's working but I can't get it to unlock in the menu to change my controls over to it from keyboard.  I'm not very technical minded so I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong.

 

Are you doing the change in main menu options or in the game?  Must be on main menu.

Other issue I have heard is it works best with Xbox 360 controller - if anecdotes are true.


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Lots of PC players with controller are playing just fine.

You're not hearing from many of them because they ARE playing the game.

 

You just posted this reply to a 100+ page thread full of PC users who are saying the exact opposite.

 

*facepalm*


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I have the recommended specs, I'm not having fun with all the low fps that I have on the camps, on heaven, the hinterlands. It changes from 50-60fps to 30ish just turnig the camera around? Why this is happenig?

 

You are one of the gaming elite :) playing at high frame rates.

I am just a peon used to 30 fps so i don't have that issue and my battles play out smooth.  All of them for 15 hours.

This is a seriously demanding game and it wouldn't surprise me if over time Bioware optimizes this to work better.

This is Bioware's first game with Frostbite. 



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You just posted this reply to a 100+ page thread full of PC users who are saying the exact opposite.

 

*facepalm*

 

I said PC/controller to begin with (as in not PC/KBM).  No?

To say all PC users is false.

To say a a huge number is speculation.

Why? Because people with issues are much higher visibilty?

Some posters on this thread went from 1st post to dozens or in some cases 100s.

So how huge is it really in numbers?

Read my other detailed post above after your done your facepalming.



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Are you doing the change in main menu options or in the game?  Must be on main menu.

Other issue I have heard is it works best with Xbox 360 controller - if anecdotes are true.

Ok that worked, thanks!  I had to completely quit the game and come back in but when I did the option was there.  I appreciate it!



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Really wish I read this post before i just bought this game for PC thinking it would play better then PS3 :/  sigh

 

https://www.origin.c...-game-guarantee

 

If you just bought it you can still return it.



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I gotten myself a xBox 360 controller as I have lost faith with them ever fixing the M & KB controls.

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Ok that worked, thanks!  I had to completely quit the game and come back in but when I did the option was there.  I appreciate it!

Glad it worked for you!

Some people might have used that as launchpad for a rant about a buggy mess :P


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You're not gonna get more then 8.

It would be "unfair" to the console players to not force the PC players to abide by the same limitations their platform of choice has.

What? It's unfair to only let PC players have same number of keys as console!

You have to be joking!!!

I want to buy a Jaguar V12 but 8 cylinders have to be crippled so I don't make the Fiat 500 owners jealous!!

 

LMFAO

 

Please tell me if I have taken this the wrong way. I apologise if I have


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50%? Source please.

You probably know that people with issues have way more visibility than  people who are happily gaming.

Only EA/Bioware will know the true numbers based on origin feedback.

 

Unplayable comes to a measure of degrees. 

If you can't play because of stuttering - turn down your res, adjust your expectation,  wait for patch or don't play the game until it's fixed.

If you can't play because of menu freezes, some have that b/c they don't meet recommended. 

Others I'm not sure. I do know I turned off my security software for a test and I got menu freeze too. Turned on gaming mode and I was fine and have been fine since.

Others can't won't play because they want the UI or tac cam to be setup a certain way.  Still playable.  Just not the way they like. 

 

This is a whole new game engine where they have had to do all kinds of things to make it work. 

I think a bit of patience and understanding is in order.

 

You don't think they want to get these issues resolve?  Srsly?

 

It is nice of you to talk down to all the people who are experiencing CTDs, freezes, fps drops, etc. by assuming they all don't meet the system requirements. Or to assume they're too stupid to alter their graphic settings to reduce lag, thank goodness you were here to impart such profound technical advice.

 

And the engine is not new, it has been in use since 2006, it is just Bioware's first time, and if EA chose not to bring in people who actually knew how it worked, or even had experience with it, that is a bad business decision. If they were content to let Bioware reinvent the wheel, so to speak, they should have given them more time to actually get it rolling. 

 

At least for an apologist you are relatively lucid. Go read reviews on metacritic, amazon, or whereever. There is massive discontent with the state of the game for more reason than just technical bugs.


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It is nice of you to talk down to all the people who are experiencing CTDs, freezes, fps drops, etc. by assuming they all don't meet the system requirements. Or to assume they're too stupid to alter their graphic settings to reduce lag, thank goodness you were here to impart such profound technical advice.

 

And the engine is not new, it has been in use since 2006, it is just Bioware's first time, and if EA chose not to bring in people who actually knew how it worked, or even had experience with it, that is a bad business decision. If they were content to let Bioware reinvent the wheel, so to speak, they should have given them more time to actually get it rolling. 

 

At least for an apologist you are relatively lucid. Go read reviews on metacritic, amazon, or whereever. There is massive discontent with the state of the game for more reason than just technical bugs.

 

Does this phrase of mine sound like I'm talking down?

"Others I'm not sure. I do know I turned off my security software for a test and I got menu freeze too. Turned on gaming mode and I was fine and have been fine since." 

That's a valid issue if they're freezing due to conflict or CTD.

The issue is how many people really have that?

You are saying a big mess.  I'm questioning that sweeping statement.

 

In fairness, shouldn't you break down concerns on this thread on the basis of Technical impasses vs preference?

You're lumping them all together.



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Does this phrase of mine sound like I'm talking down?

"Others I'm not sure. I do know I turned off my security software for a test and I got menu freeze too. Turned on gaming mode and I was fine and have been fine since." 

That's a valid issue if they're freezing due to conflict or CTD.

The issue is how many people really have that?

You are saying a big mess.  I'm questioning that sweeping statement.

 

In fairness, shouldn't you break down concerns on this thread on the basis of Technical impasses vs preference?

You're lumping them all together.

 

Yes, it does


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Yes, it does

 

Good.

Now rewrite it for me so it sounds good to you factoring in fairness for all viewpoints.