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[Jam_Sandwich]

Right, I've given it some more game time.

For me these two things need to be fixed

Click and hold to attack change to - click to attack
Improve the tactical camera

I can make do with everything else till later on and those must be relatively easy.

Haven't come across any of the other bugs yet as I'm just not far enough in

[zMataxa]

Need some protest pictures.  #InquisitionRefund

 

How many posts do you have in this thread?

Why don't you start a new thread in feedback where you can focus on gathering support for the RPG that you want?

Your concerns are noted - many times.

Why not let Bioware respond?  They are working on many issues.

 

When I see your posts I'm getting Deja-vue of  an actor on the classic stage looking for drama.

If you are serious, start a new thread in feedback.  Worries of it falling into question or oblivion shouldn't be an issue given your passion for this topic.

If it has merit, you'll get a following.

All I see right now is a classic movie theme replaying over and over. 

 

Personally, I think Bioware is GENEROUS to a fault allowing non-game-owners to post on here.

[Phonantiphon]

Right, I've given it some more game time.

For me these two things need to be fixed

Click and hold to attack change to - click to attack
Improve the tactical camera
 

I wish I could actually get the thing to work long enough to have these problems...!

#freezing #lowfps

[Pen-N-Paper]

 I know your PR folks will say that silence will help with damage control;

 

No. That is not a PR recommendation. "No comment" and letting the damage spin out of control is not how PR is done. 

[Suhiira]

But unfortunately, it seems most newly recruited, young developers these days have Diablo and FF as their reference frame.

Actually it's not the developers it's the publishers.

Electronic Arts in particular has a well earned horrible rep for forcing developers to make their games include (and exclude) features EAs Marketing department says will effect sales, irreguardless of the fact that these features don't fit the game concept.

[CarnieHeart]

Is there any chance that I can get a refund for the game through tech support? Should I ask?

 

Yes, absolutely.

[Pen-N-Paper]

Probably not the right place to ask, but since official people are around - can we talk about extended ability to return the game for those who missed their 24 hour return window due to being mislead (by pre-launch promises and on release day by this thread that seemed to suggest they were still planning on making good on those promises)? Based on the latest official statements ("well it's fine for us, but we can see theres a disconnect") I don't see this game ever getting into any shape I think I could enjoy.

 

Disappointed hope is one thing that is going to stay anyway, would be great to at least get rid of the feeling of having been played for an idiot.

 

#InquisitionRefund

[Suhiira]

Just wanted to ask. Is the absence of the saving the keep vs the town quest a bug or was that a developer choice? Seeing as how many things are missing (party banter) this might also be a bug.

That particular choice is intentional.

One or the other.

[DarkTl]

Ok this game might not be the best optimized game ever but it's far more optimized then the most sandbox RPG's out there (Why don't you fanboys crap on the overrated Skyrim which was 1000 times buggier. Releasing a product and letting the community to mod it is worse then what EA is doing).

I cannot agree here. I don't recall so many issues with CTDs in case of skyrim even in the very beginning.

As for bugs for all TES and new Fallout games, thankfully unofficial patches made by players are able to fix maybe not all, but, let's say, 90% of bugs and any other issues. Because they support mods, unlike DAI.

 

Also I want to remind you that DAO and DA2 still have some bugs that most likely will never be fixed. They are not completely gamebreaking, but they are not minor either. Some of them were fixed by modders too, but due to less friendly mods policy it's impossible to fix everything.

[zMataxa]

 But it has large amount of issues on PC, which for the majority kills the joy of the good story...

 

So you won't reply to a legitimate question?

And you carry on with hyperbole instead ? 

"Majority"?  Source please.

 

Show me you are not trolling here.

I'd like to see you as a legit poster.

 

[Cl1cka]

50%? Source please.

You probably know that people with issues have way more visibility than  people who are happily gaming.

Only EA/Bioware will know the true numbers based on origin feedback.

 

Unplayable comes to a measure of degrees. 

If you can't play because of stuttering - turn down your res, adjust your expectation,  wait for patch or don't play the game until it's fixed.

If you can't play because of menu freezes, some have that b/c they don't meet recommended. 

Others I'm not sure. I do know I turned off my security software for a test and I got menu freeze too. Turned on gaming mode and I was fine and have been fine since.

Others can't won't play because they want the UI or tac cam to be setup a certain way.  Still playable.  Just not the way they like. 

 

This is a whole new game engine where they have had to do all kinds of things to make it work. 

I think a bit of patience and understanding is in order.

 

You don't think they want to get these issues resolve?  Srsly?

[Legenlorn]

That particular choice is intentional.
One or the other.

Ohh. Ok. Thought they said that what they would show ( not tell) would be locked. A pitty really. That was the quest I was looking forward to. So the varric/cassandra thing was slso dropped.

[Stooge109]

I know how disappointed people are when they experience bugs/glitches and other issues, but don't totally give up on Bioware as of yet. Give them the opportunely to fix the issues, and to give them time to release the patch. Remember that Bioware can't beta test every machine that's out there.

 

Given the developers have been lying to us for weeks leading up to the release what reason is there for anyone to give them a chance to fix anything.  The mantra for the game was developed FOR PC, shoved down everyones throat for months.  There is no reason to give any of them the benefit of the doubt and no reason to believe anything will ever be done about the issues.

 

There absolutely is reason for people to be furious.

 

Telling people to give the devs a break when they have been lying to us over and over, i have one question for you, why should we? If there was an apology made if the FOR PC GAMERS video was taken down and a retraction of the content publicly posted i might give them a break but to continue with blind faith that anything said here is even remotely true is naive.

[abearzi]

Thank you for your much more factual post.

Just so we are clear what is your definition of buggy mess?

 

Hmmm.  You use Metacritic as one of your sources?

Where day 1 - 0/10 reviews were posted?

 

Scientifically speaking, anecdotal evidence is not generally accepted as valid.

For good reasons.  Sure it shows there is an issue.

Question of % de facto occurence still remains.

 

50% is your opinion based on anecdotal evidence.

At one time people thought the earth was flat based on anecdotal evidence.

 

Is buggy mess a fair assessment?

Some people have completed the game and loved it.  Fact.

Others cant' play.  How many compared to those who can?

Only Bioware/EA has an idea and they are still working on it diligently.

 

 

Anecdotal, ie; qualitative data is very much statistically valid. Also, we're not talking about science, its stats, which is different. And the anecdotes are no more or less invalid than people "who have completed and enjoyed the game". For a Gallup poll to be considered nationally representative of the entire population of the USA, any sample of over 1300 is considered amazing. In many cases far less is fine. For the case of a game review, then yes the reviews on sites like MC and Amazon can be used to gauge the general userbase. Its not terribly accurate, but we're not writing a ****** dissertation on this, we're just talking about general user satisfaction and response.

 

Stop using bad logic with straw man arguments, its tedious and insipid. We don't know if Bioware is working on it diligently, we know they have told us they are. Those are not the same thing. Your relentless cheerleading for a company which has thus far demonstrably failed to adequately address the concerns of players who purchased their product is equally tedious.

[Pen-N-Paper]

My statement is not official policy, but rather that the PC controls as they stand do work for some people (since people were curious how we weren't ultra annoyed with the PC controls prerelease).  I'm saying why I didn't have the frustration many have, and have been trying (and apparently failing) that simply because I can work with the PC controls without issue doesn't mean that we shouldn't listen to those that are having issues.

Fair enough. I am sure I experience the same thing when I play.

 

But the design question remains: why change what was working?  Why tear it down?  You can add, but why omit? I have yet to see this work in products (eg. New Coke)

 

It is moot to discuss it now - unless Bioware wants to go back to the drawing board and create a wholecloth PC game (e.g. Coke Classic). But I am intellectually curious. No argument. No rebuttle. I would just like to get into the head of the decision-maker.

 

Why change what was working?

[Cl1cka]

Have all 6 contacted EA support?

Please do if you haven't.  Staying anon helps no-one.

8 of them returned it. Me and 2 more are still waiting to hear anything, since we missed the 24 hours return policy.

[TobyJake]

Did you try turning down your settings?  This is a very demanding game.  Expecting ultra for your rig may be a bit high.

I have a  similar tiered 2GB GPU as well, and once I turned off MSSA and turned graphics everything to high (except mesh - kept at ultra for the hair quality) it made all the difference.

Still have AO at highest.  Game still looks gorgeous.  I'm 15 hours in with just the occasional freeze on longer cutscenes or the wartable (oddly).

You seem to be making an avalanche of posts!! Why is that? You are ok on your controller so everyone should just shut up and not be upset?

I have been here since this topic was opened and have seen all the ebb and flow of emotion.

Not trolling are we?

[Cl1cka]

yeah said the guy which throws overstatements around the whole time

 

and at least in origin you have a good chance for refund if not satisfied, when ubisoft tricked you to buy watchdogs or unity on steam you burned your money no matter of the condition of the game

No fan of Ubi. Just saying their dmg control policy is good.

[zMataxa]

Anecdotal, ie; qualitative data is very much statistically valid. Also, we're not talking about science, its stats, which is different. And the anecdotes are no more or less invalid than people "who have completed and enjoyed the game". For a Gallup poll to be considered nationally representative of the entire population of the USA, any sample of over 1300 is considered amazing. In many cases far less is fine. For the case of a game review, then yes the reviews on sites like MC and Amazon can be used to gauge the general userbase. Its not terribly accurate, but we're not writing a ****** dissertation on this, we're just talking about general user satisfaction and response.

 

Stop using bad logic with straw man arguments, its tedious and insipid. We don't know if Bioware is working on it diligently, we know they have told us they are. Those are not the same thing. Your relentless cheerleading for a company which has thus far demonstrably failed to adequately address the concerns of players who purchased their product is equally tedious.

 

Statistically valid?  Huh?  How do I even begin. 

You are pulling 50% out of your .... and you know it.

 

What's tedious and insipid is this constant bashing.

Post your facts and move on. 

Why turn this into a bash fest?  What are you trying to achieve.  Really?

 

Seriously you want more statements from Bioware with etas?

That's just setting them up a trap for them and you know it. 

Reality is software fixing can have unknowns.

You think they are gonna just abandon legitimate concerned users for those who can't play due to technical impasses.  100% not likely. 

Preference impasse - well that's a whole other issue. Join some of the others and start a feedback thread if you have a pref-impasse.

[zMataxa]

8 of them returned it. Me and 2 more are still waiting to hear anything, since we missed the 24 hours return policy.

 

Thank you for replying.  I'm sure it will help with EA/Bioware's overall data analysis to assess the situation and get the picture of what's really happening out there, and to see how widespread this really is.  Will help pinpoint "trouble-spots", you know.

[Cl1cka]

So you won't reply to a legitimate question?

And you carry on with hyperbole instead ? 

"Majority"?  Source please.

 

Show me you are not trolling here.

I'd like to see you as a legit poster.

"Majority" comes from the amount of people I personally know that have the game and have issues with it. It's "majority" since, well you know it's the bigger part.

That's my source.

[Dubya75]

 

 

Looting

1. Small radius leads to jumping instead of looting. Very annoying in such a long game

2. Landmarks and things like ladders sharing the same ping sound as loot - another annoyance

 

 

 

I 100% agree with this! 

Looking around for loot when a ladder or a door is causing the ping is super annoying. Landmarks, doors and ladders really do not need to have a ping sound to them.

[abearzi]

No fan of Ubi. Just saying their dmg control policy is good.

 

Precisely. I have only been using Ubi and Blizzard as examples, I don't play either of their games. 

 

And for zMata,

Please take your trolling elsewhere. You clearly have no idea how statistical analysis is done, don't understand the difference between qualitative and quantitative data, refuse to actually knowledge the evidence people are providing, and continue to belittle the people expressing their concerns thus far in DAI. People don't want more statements from Bioware. They want the actual patch. Or even parts of it, which address a single issue at a time. Because until then, its just words on the wind.

[zMataxa]

You seem to be making an avalanche of posts!! Why is that? You are ok on your controller so everyone should just shut up and not be upset?

I have been here since this topic was opened and have seen all the ebb and flow of emotion.

Not trolling are we?

Why so many posts?

As John McLean said in one of the Die-hard Movies "Someone has to be that guy".

 

If you read my posts you'll see my issue is not with legit users, but those turning this into a bash-fest.

You obviously have no problem with the  collection group vocalizing "Go get your refund now".

And i don't either, If they stopped posting EVERYDAY adding fuel to the fire.

Get your refund and move on. 

It's simple.  I keep repeating it.

Yet you drag my posts in like I have an issue with legit complaints.

I repeat.  I do not.

I do have issues with this constant daily bashing by a select collective few fueling the fire that this is somehow a game that no one should touch.

That's just not cool.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

Why so many posts?

As John McLean said in one of the Die-hard Movies "Someone has to be that guy".

 

If you read my posts you'll see my issue is not with legit users, but those turning this into a bash-fest.

You obviously have no problem with the  collection group vocalizing "Go get your refund now".

And i don't either, If they stopped posting EVERYDAY adding fuel to the fire.

Get your refund and move on.  Is this the new crusade now?

 

Why so many posts? You don't have any concerns related to PC version? Move on. Is this the new crusade now?