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#2876
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Just report the ****** troll.

 

zMataxa is just harassing people who are voicing valid complaints. There is no point engaging since, as the great George Bernard Shaw said, "Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

 

Just report her posts for trolling and harassment.


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#2877
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So in other terms, game looks fine on console, so optimizing for Ultra and fade touched for PC is not a big deal... OK. I play the game on Ultra with fade touched texture but I had to disable MSAA and force FXAA via Nvidia pannel to have some decent FPS (45-60) : but I have to admit my computer rig is quite good (i7 4790 OC 4,3ghz // Nvidia GTX TITAN OC (clockspeed 1200) // 16gb RAM DDR3 Corsair).

 

Most of the problems comes from origin on PC. Deactivate origin in game goes a long way. Also, MSAA is the worst AA method ever. Why not supporting FXAA or TXAA ? Some zones IG are just horribly optimized but I reckon that's an engine issue at this point.

 

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to engage in this discussion. Although your intentions are good, this kind of answer shows clearly that PC players have been fooled since the begining of this project.

 

I'm willing to bet that you've never really used it as it is (its just not usable combined to the crappy AI and lack of options for companions), and moreover, that you didn't even went back to DA:O to see how it was done. I can understand that your crappy Frostbite engine, built for FPS, cannot support this kind of features fully, but UNDERSTAND that for many PC players, tac cam was THE UNIQUE SELLING POINT for this game ! Even more after all this communication BS destined to PC players that BW did.

 

SO yeah, you can apologize and try to explain however you want, but some of us don't buy you're PR, cause well, we actually work in PR ;)

 

 

Well that says it all... Is there ANY ONE in your team that had preference for KBDM ? Anyone that actually worked and tested KBDM instead of just saying : "well, if it doesn't work, they'll plug a controller and will be happy". I'm puzzled by the lack of profesionalism this shows.

 

Cause as I understand what you said, basically there were 4 platforms that were gonna play with controller, only one with KBDM so well, it was not a priority as ALL OF US at BW were playing with controller ANYWAY !

 

Well done ;)

 

 

So none of these issues you're stating here and now, one week after launch, has ever been identified during testing phase ? Again, did anyone tested your game without a controller ? oO

 

- Loot radius should be GREATLY improved. Or make it so the character move to loot...

- Add some freaking toggle to see ressource nodes instead of having to spam SEARCH endlessly (have you check how much of each ressources you need to max out every thing ?! its insane ! I feel this game is only pressing SEARCH to farm ressources !)

 

And if you feel that controls will not impact much, you've clearly not played on harder difficulties.

 

 

I'm trully sorry If I sound aggressive, don't take it personnaly. But lastly BW has made some clear points on where they are going, and as a PC player, I can't but feel that we'll never have a good game from you ever again.

 

Your focus is clearly on consoles, everything you've said and done to the game showed it.

 

From the look of things, we can't hope for much changes and this saddens me a lot.

 

THERE IS A LOT OF LOVE FOR BIOWARE IN THIS MESSAGE. WORTH TAKING NOTE, BIOWARE.

 

Also this below:

 

 

One thing I have clearly seen over the last couple weeks, there are quite a few people who feel this same way, who were not following the game release on these forums, but after release created accounts here to voice their displeasure in the same way as above.

 

Lot of 1st time posters in this thread alone.

 

 

You are right. I almost never bother with fora. If anything, this shows what impact DA:I had to people like me that never belonged to the vocal minority. I am 40 years old, I have been playing PC games for a long time. I don't have time to "invest" to battle the controls. I want to have fun playing a game not playing against the controls... It is also the first time I have returned a game, ever. I am now following this thread more from morbid curiosity than anything else, as since EA/Origin offers this easy refund system I consider the case closed to my satisfaction.


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#2878
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This just dawned on you now?

... works for Bioware. :lol:

 

 

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Is this a Bioware culture thing?


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Ok, I just tryed the Zoom hack script, as something posted some (a lot of) pages before. I had a single fear, and a last justification for Bioware, but it all dissolved, throwing fire to my rage even higher.

I feared that the engine, or as how it was developed the game, would have got into a drastically dropping frame rate with higher zoom value, and that's the excuse for the crappy tact camera mode. I'm hosting a Geforce GTX 980, but the trueth is that I still get constant 60fps with the default camera zoom, with the zoom lvl of the screen below and even with a hacked zoom that spam the camera so further that I go out of the valley.

The good new is that the engine has a great LoD lvl already built in, the very sad, dare I say the dishonest new is that once again we can confirm everything that has already written so far in this post.

[jfkb47.jpg[


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#2880
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This! 


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#2881
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What F-word? FC4? fix? free? Shame on you then!

 

What F-word? FC4? fix? free? Shame on you then!

F u c k ? that word 

again i aplogize if i offended someone im just so frustrated



#2882
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**** it i want to play the ****** game on PC

i dont want to buy the PS4 version cause my PC can handle it much better

 

so why there been 2days since allan post a message here and no 1 from bioware tell us some news about upcoming patch!!!

 

im freaking mad what thats ****?realse a broken game and dont give a **** about community?

 

****** look on AC:U  / FC4 they might gave us day 1 broken games but comeon...

 

FC already got many patchs and will get more 

AC:U gave players free game and they will fix most AC:U problems

 

 

and we dont even get a single offical comment about whats going on...

 

sry for saying the F word too much but im just angry so much.

 

It's funny how much hate Ubisoft got (justifiably) for releasing games with many problems, yet they ACTUALLY worked around the clock to fix them and maintained live update blogs. In the same time period that Ubisoft has patched their games twice with hundreds of fixes, BW have not even clarified what exactly it is that they are working on, in order to avoid "inaccurate information", this means that they have not even finalized what they are going to fix. That's unacceptable, sorry. I would be shocked to see any patches before New Years with the attitude they have. It would also not surprise me if they have 5 dudes working on the PC specific stuff and 80 dudes on the console stuff. That's clearly how development went as well. Well, they lost me as a customer, sorry. This is the final BW game that I purchase. At least it's entertaining that they can't blame piracy for their failures anymore.


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#2883
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It's funny how much hate Ubisoft got (justifiably) for releasing games with many problems, yet they ACTUALLY worked around the clock to fix them and maintained live update blogs. In the same time period that Ubisoft has patched their games twice with hundreds of fixes, BW have not even clarified what exactly it is that they are working on, in order to avoid "inaccurate information", this means that they have not even finalized what they are going to fix. That's unacceptable, sorry. I would be shocked to see any patches before New Years with the attitude they have. It would also not surprise me if they have 5 dudes working on the PC specific stuff and 80 dudes on the console stuff. That's clearly how development went as well. Well, they lost me as a customer, sorry. This is the final BW game that I purchase. At least it's entertaining that they can't blame piracy for their failures anymore.

Exactly what i meant ! you said it much better :<

 

any way im still lost thinking to myself is it worth buying the game and hope to get zero problems ? or i should just go and get FC4 and spend my money/time there.



#2884
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Exactly what i meant ! you said it much better :<

 

any way im still lost thinking to myself is it worth buying the game and hope to get zero problems ? or i should just go and get FC4 and spend my money/time there.

 

Do not even consider buying it. Whether it will work on your PC or not seems to be a diceroll at the moment, the UI is atrocious and there are many game breaking quest/story/character creation bugs.


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#2885
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Are they? How are they working on it? What do they plan to actually fix? What's their thoughts on how to fix it? What's their plan? How are they implementing that plan? What things are they actually working on fixing? Are they even actually aware of all the issues, or only some of them? When can we expect these fixes? 

 

These, and a million more questions can be answered by PR. They haven't answered any of them. We got a very, very, very vague, "We know, we're doing something maybe." How do we even know this magical patch will even fix a third of the problems people have? We don't. Ten bucks says this magical patch, when it comes out, will fix less than half of the issues people have brought up. And then Bioware will pretend that everything is perfectly fine and move on as if they've saved the game.

 

You've taken a few very vague posts/tweets/whatever as if they're going to actually fix everything. I'll believe that when I see it. I don't expect them to fix a third of the issues people have with the PC version.

 

It's all bullshit. You don't support your customers by ignoring them, This is a PR failure, and when there's a PR failure the company not only looks like a failure to prospective buyers, but loses the trust of its current customers..

 

BOOYAH!

 

With the amount of problems stemming from design decisions - and maybe the biggest question the devs face is internal. The dev can in fact fix the problem. But should the problem be fixed. With Laidlaw on holiday blackout, I have to ask if there is anyone in the office able to take that decision.

 

Wouldn't that situation be.... funny.

 

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Sorry, Bioware prevents me from liking you post in public. I can, however Tweet it onto Twitter with the hashtag #InquisitionRefund. So can any one and everyone else.

 

AND +1 for more truth:

 

An apology would of been nice, Its appalling with all that pre release hyperbole about the PC version, and then all you say is were listening?

 

Honestly it shows the love some people still hold for your company and the wonderful stories you tell that the old PC crowd still buys your extremely streamlined RPG's these days, and quite obvious second class treatment thrown in for good measure.



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Ok, I just tryed the Zoom hack script, as something posted some (a lot of) pages before. I had a single fear, and a last justification for Bioware, but it all dissolved, throwing fire to my rage even higher.

I feared that the engine, or as how it was developed the game, would have got into a drastically dropping frame rate with higher zoom value, and that's the excuse for the crappy tact camera mode. I'm hosting a Geforce GTX 980, but the trueth is that I still get constant 60fps with the default camera zoom, with the zoom lvl of the screen below and even with a hacked zoom that spam the camera so further that I go out of the valley.

The good new is that the engine has a great LoD lvl already built in, the very sad, dare I say the dishonest new is that once again we can confirm everything that has already written so far in this post.

[jfkb47.jpg[

 

You are saying you do not have massive framerate drops during combat? These screenshots are all simple landscape shots, no enemies in the frame, no explosions or spell effects going off. 

 

Is the zoom out a lot more usable then? 

 

It's clear that this would not be usable on Consoles, though. I can't think that you would not have massive framerate drops on those platforms. 

 

Have you had any clipping issues, where you can see blackness or greyness, where the world mesh ends etc. etc. ? 


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#2887
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Do not even consider buying it. Whether it will work on your PC or not seems to be a diceroll at the moment, the UI is atrocious and there are many game breaking quest/story/character creation bugs.

i guess ill have to go with Far cry 4...im following this topic in the last days hope to see a tiny announce about upcoming patch so i can buy the game already(i want it so much) but i guess this is not gonna happen soon...



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What about twitter's #MyInquisition and #InquisitionRefound??

 

Really, I'll just post this again, and again, from time to time until I have a clear answer (from Bioware), sorry -- hope you can understand:

 

 

@Mark Darrah

@Conal Pierse

@Allan Schumacher




Bioware, please, just state one thing...
AT LEAST these three problems bellow will be fixed accordingly (see bellow), please, YES or NO??


_Camera zoom (more, on all modes, specially the Tactical Camera mode)

_Click to move and orders available in pause mode (not ONLY in tactical camera mode)

_AI keeping commands, orders, given in Tactical Camera Mode even when you leave it (Tactical Camera mode).

 

 

 

PS: think we can all agree those are the main problems -outside graphics/sound/performance ones - that keep us all from truly enjoying, and being able to manage, the combat in DragonAgeInquisition (specially at higher difficulties). Constructive answers, please. 


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#2889
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Is it me or does the game look much better zoomed out than the default third person view? It just looks perfect with that "faux isometric view". 

 

Another reason why the lack of point and click movement is a retarded move by bioware, they should have allowed this zoom level and point and click.


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#2890
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THIS



#2891
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i guess ill have to go with Far cry 4...im following this topic in the last days hope to see a tiny announce about upcoming patch so i can buy the game already(i want it so much) but i guess this is not gonna happen soon...

I second that.

 

Moreover, the more time passes, the less interesting the game become because two weeks... it's a pretty big amount of time and with all the spoilers floating around... I might as well watch it on youtube at this rate. If nothing happens in a week or so I will probably lose all my remained interest and will just wait for GTA,new MGS and Witcher.


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i guess ill have to go with Far cry 4...im following this topic in the last days hope to see a tiny announce about upcoming patch so i can buy the game already(i want it so much) but i guess this is not gonna happen soon...

Go far it, Far Cry 4 is a lot of fun. Unless you are on an AMD card. Then don't go for it.



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Bioware, please, just state one thing...
AT LEAST these three problems bellow will be fixed accordingly (see bellow), please, YES or NO??


_Camera zoom (more, on all modes, specially the Tactical Camera mode)

_Click to move and orders available in pause mode (not ONLY in tactical camera mode)

_AI keeping commands, orders, given in Tactical Camera Mode even when you leave it (Tactical Camera mode).

 

 

 

PS: think we can all agree those are the main problems -outside graphics/sound/performance ones - that keep us all from truly enjoying, and being able to manage, the combat in DragonAgeInquisition (specially at higher difficulties). Constructive answers, please. 

 

 

- ACTUAL AI TACTICS.

 

- AUTO ATTACK AND FOLLOWING YOUR TARGET FOR MELEE CHARAS.

 

I can live with stupid TacCam, non zooming out, no click to go, time consuming looting system. I can sort of resign myself to having just 8 skills in the skill bar and the fact that I have no choice in character progression except for skills.

 

But seriously, if you play in a more advanced difficulty than Normal (and possibly on Normal too, haven't tried), the joke that "Behaviours" is is just plain unacceptable.

 

And running after your target while swatting flies with a sword is just plain silly.


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#2894
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Ok, I just tryed the Zoom hack script, as something posted some (a lot of) pages before. I had a single fear, and a last justification for Bioware, but it all dissolved, throwing fire to my rage even higher.

I feared that the engine, or as how it was developed the game, would have got into a drastically dropping frame rate with higher zoom value, and that's the excuse for the crappy tact camera mode. I'm hosting a Geforce GTX 980, but the trueth is that I still get constant 60fps with the default camera zoom, with the zoom lvl of the screen below and even with a hacked zoom that spam the camera so further that I go out of the valley.

The good new is that the engine has a great LoD lvl already built in, the very sad, dare I say the dishonest new is that once again we can confirm everything that has already written so far in this post.

[jfkb47.jpg[

 

Seriously, if one guy sitting at home can do this, why can't Bioware?

 

These are some very serious issues that don't look like they are THAT hard to fix and would make the game much better:

- make the tactical camera zoom out like in the screenshot (or similar to it)

- enable walk/run toggle

- make the tac cam controllable by mousing over to the edge of the screen

- expand companion tactics (depending on how difficult it is)

 

I'm not going into other issues, but just the first 3 seem rather easy to fix and like I said, it would make the game SO much better play.



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Ok, I just tryed the Zoom hack script, as something posted some (a lot of) pages before. I had a single fear, and a last justification for Bioware, but it all dissolved, throwing fire to my rage even higher.

I feared that the engine, or as how it was developed the game, would have got into a drastically dropping frame rate with higher zoom value, and that's the excuse for the crappy tact camera mode. I'm hosting a Geforce GTX 980, but the trueth is that I still get constant 60fps with the default camera zoom, with the zoom lvl of the screen below and even with a hacked zoom that spam the camera so further that I go out of the valley.

The good new is that the engine has a great LoD lvl already built in, the very sad, dare I say the dishonest new is that once again we can confirm everything that has already written so far in this post.

[jfkb47.jpg[

 

 

Shame on Bioware... This only shows that they could've already fixed a big part of the combat gameplay problem and enabled further zoom out options already. Players did it for them, faster than a whole dedicated team, it seems, and without access to moding or developer tools...


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#2896
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Go far it, Far Cry 4 is a lot of fun. Unless you are on an AMD card. Then don't go for it.

i might take the opportunity to ask you

i got a GTX 680 Gigabyte 2GB

is it good enough for DA:I / FC4 ?

i also got I5-3570K/256GB 830 Samsong ssd/4gb ram 1600hz but next week im going to get my new 1866hz corsair from repair

also im using win7



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I think it's one thing to post a photo of a zoomed out view, and another entirely to make UI changes, talk to driver companies to get the right drivers working, changing to an auto-attack mechanic (probably involves some coding!) and then go through QA. Yes, people can edit a few things to get a good semi-isometric view (which I really like, by the way, nice and zoomed out), but BioWare got to make sure this patch works before putting it out to the public, which takes time. We all just need to be patient. :)

I haven't played since I figured out that the controls were not for me (been playing for a total of 40 minutes), but I have faith that BioWare will come through and give us proper PC controls. =)


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Speaking of modability: I'm of the opinion that a game should already be good by it's own: a mediocre game with a lot of great mods is still a mediocre game at it's core.

Don't get me wrong: I actually enjoyed vanilla-Skyrim very much without having one mod installed (it appears I'm a rarity here), and I personally thought it was a big improvement over Oblivion and at least as good as Morrowind (remember Morrowind was not THAT good: It had Cliff-Racers...those nostalgic glasses...). And it crashed far less than the both of them (which is a first for Bethesda).

I'm not against mods however, since it can enhance an already good game to 'excellent' levels. And yes it can also make a mediocre game, or a great game with sh*t controls (Dark Souls) into a great game.

 

To be honest in terms of quest content I think Bethesda made the main quest better in Skyrim and all of the guild qursts worse. All of those minor fetch quests they used as padding would be okay if they had designed more (and better) side quests. Bethesda also consistently fails to add atmosphere to their creation - cities are small and dull,there are almost no settled area's in countries that existed for 1000's of years,99.99% of the world are monsters who btw are super close to "settled" area's, there is no interaction between cities,no guards on the roads or meaningful forts etc. They also failed to expand on the sort of quest mechanics used in the first half of the dark brotherhood quests in Oblivion.

On a side note I could probably mimic the cry of a cliff racer with 100% accuracy even though I haven't played Morrowind in years :mellow:. That's how many cliff racers there were in Morrowind :P
 



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I think that the legacy of the franchise is likely where most of the frustration comes from, to be honest (so in essence I agree).

I will freely admit that is what put me off.

 

I am playing another game on PC right now with very similar control scheme to DAI. I picked it up with no expectations and am having a good time. This "other" game also has more customization options, and is not a tactical RPG.

 

Not so with DAI. It was jarring.

 

I recognize that it is impossible to know for sure what changes, even if they are "good," will trigger such a response.

 

I have nothing to back this up, but I get the sense that the professional reviews pretty well match the customer satisfaction with DAI. I have a feeling we kb/m whiners are a tiny, vocal minority. So, what I am saying is, I appreciate that Bioware is even engaging the issue.

 

Side note, Mr. Schmacher: Your measured, honest and respectful involvement on the forum is very commendable.



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+1 for shame on Bioware.  It shows how easily and quickly they could taken all our PC frustrations away, yet they are to darn lazy, rich and arrogant to even bother.

 

In the future I very much doubt that I will ever believe one word that they spew out .