Please don't turn this thread into PC vs PS4 fights.. Thank you lol
PC Community Concerns
#2977
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:21
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In DA:I I constantly have to use the 1 2 3 4 5 key to choose my conversation choice on the wheel, cause most of the time the mouse is lock up and can't seem to be recognized by the game ...
Next time this happens, try right-clicking the mouse anywhere on the game screen, for me, this restores the mouse to usability again.
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#2978
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:26
Unless the "problem" is considered to be that which is one of the main problems in AC Unity: Performance. The publication does conclude that "performance remains disappointing", despite these patches.
The post in question claimed that Ubi's patches had not fixed "the problems" (instead of claiming that Ubi failed to fix "the 'problem' ", as you now claim.)
'Many problems fixed; other problems not fixed' is quite obviously not the same as 'the problems have not been fixed'.
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#2979
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:36
... but then you want me to spam my V key 50.000 times with an annoying ping sound?
Huh, on my system I do not hear a ping at all when using Search. It works as expected, sonar goes out and "pickables" are highlighted but no sound. I guess its a bug on my installation but, dayum, how lucky am I, lol.
#2980
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:39
Wait.. You think that BioWare will make performance improvements in the patch?
Certainly hope so, it seems that even with a recommended system Inquisition have frame rate drops. For me it's mostly the cutscenes that "jitter", but it's certainly not as bad as in AC Unity. In AC Unity I might as well have a slideshow of pictures running in some areas ![]()
To stay on topic, here's a review from AngryJoe. About 14 minutes in he talks about PC controls; "it feels like a console port here in every way".
(also, spoiler alert)
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#2981
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:42
So, almost 3000 replies just in this post and still no news on the patch. Except for this post where they acknowledge our ¨concerns¨ (PR BS) it is a total blackout regarding the patch. I am counting on them releasing it before the weekend starts so, maybe, we can finally play a game that has been released 10 days ago.
Please stop disappointing us Bioware.
I'm not feeling optimistic about Bioware releasing the patch before the weekend, but I hope you're correct. Right about now I'd love nothing more than to re-purchase Dragon Age: Inquisition, and actually play the darn thing.
#2982
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:48
I'm not feeling optimistic about Bioware releasing the patch before the weekend, but I hope you're correct. Right about now I'd love nothing more than to re-purchase Dragon Age: Inquisition, and actually play the darn thing.
be patient, its totally worth it ![]()
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#2983
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:57
Ok, I just tryed the Zoom hack script, as something posted some (a lot of) pages before. I had a single fear, and a last justification for Bioware, but it all dissolved, throwing fire to my rage even higher.
I feared that the engine, or as how it was developed the game, would have got into a drastically dropping frame rate with higher zoom value, and that's the excuse for the crappy tact camera mode. I'm hosting a Geforce GTX 980, but the trueth is that I still get constant 60fps with the default camera zoom, with the zoom lvl of the screen below and even with a hacked zoom that spam the camera so further that I go out of the valley.
The good new is that the engine has a great LoD lvl already built in, the very sad, dare I say the dishonest new is that once again we can confirm everything that has already written so far in this post.
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The problem here could be (emphasize "could") in why it was done this way is because a console is likely to get unacceptable frame loss from a camera that high and forcing the system to process and display that many more objects. Pure speculation for sure, but the decision is "sane" if the product was mandated to be identical across all platforms. A GTX 980 is quite the beast (I think) compared to a console, I am playing this game on a 3 Gig GTX 580 and its working fine for me albeit relatively low FPS most of the time. I am in no way excusing BW/EA for the limitation on Tac Cam zoom. In fact this could easily explain a lot of the design decisions for the UI and controls as well.
Having said that, when in Tac Cam mode, the player is presumably playing DA:O style tactical with pause and go so FPS is therefore theoretically less of an issue, so yeah, not sure why not let the player zoom to his hearts' content. The only other thing is that it may cause the console to use all of its available memory in some situations and crash.
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#2984
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 05:57
Huh, on my system I do not hear a ping at all when using Search. It works as expected, sonar goes out and "pickables" are highlighted but no sound. I guess its a bug on my installation but, dayum, how lucky am I, lol.
I want that bug! In my game there's definitely a sound with the sonar animation, a sound I'm getting just as tired of as pressing V key continuously (I like to pick everything up)
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#2985
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:00
Allan.
Thank you for your responses. Although we don't agree in some issues, I still appreciate you taking the time to answer. And Happy Thanksgiving!
I have two questions to see if you have some feedback on them:
1. Any word on implementing an auto-attack feature for PC? I think from a developer goal perspective this is kind of a big issue, because if the devs don't "believe" from a design perspective that this feature shouldn't exist in DA:I then everything is moot right off the start. So the question, yes, it is making an assumption. So you could probably start by answering if this request is "off" right from the start. Apologize for the assumption within the question.
2. HOLD feature! Goodness gracious. My casters and archers are keen on going to melee range against everything despite they being put on HOLD! It's like they enjoy getting two shotted by giant two handed weapons and AOE attacks. Any word if this is on the table?
Thanks again.
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#2986
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:04
The problem here could be (emphasize "could") in why it was done this way is because a console is likely to get unacceptable frame loss from a camera that high and forcing the system to process and display that many more objects.
Maybe, another possibility is that when using a console things usually have to be bigger on screen (hence the large minimap etc.), so a tactics cam that's very close to the ground is a lot easier for console players to use.
My first reaction to the tactics cam on PC was "how do I zoom out further?"
#2987
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:05
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Some of those sites don't really seem to be very credible.
The EA stock also seems to be doing fairly well. I can't find any quote about poor performance etc. etc. and lies. That's inflammatory language that may be fine for disappointed and frustrated customers and fans on the forums,but I'd find that language surprising in any credible publication.
I actually think when sales figures are out, they will be excellent for EA.
#2988
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:10
Ugh, now that's just great, Leliana talks about being "friends" with the dead Hero of Ferelden. In the world state I wanted to import, Leliana was the LI of the living Hero of Ferelden. In the Keep it says "Used on start of new DAI game" with a date matching the creation of my character.
Even if they do release a patch, that **** won't get fixed for my current playthrough. Which basically means I have to restart my ****** game. Boy, do I look forward to redoing the Hinterlands.
Bioware sure did a great job at ensuring that all my attempts to enjoy this game get ruined immediately.
Got past the lag and the clunky controls (which is a big ****** thing to get past)? Guess what: your world state failed to import (good thing they didn't include any way to check if your world state got imported at character creation) and you can start again!
Why couldn't they just include a written list of the contents of you world state at character creation? Meh.
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#2989
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:11
While I agree and can wait 1-2 months - I need information WHAT they intend to patch at all.
They wait 2 months for patch, they will lose people to other titles veeery quickly. Not because the other titles deserve that (tho i believe TW3 will), just because of the disappointment.
#2990
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:15
C'mon, you released a broken game and you're partying and celebrating unfinished product for a week?
#2991
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:20
I marked the exact time Angry joe talks about the pc controls. Glad to see he has the same opinion as alot of us and maybe the developers will take a look at this quick clip.
http://youtu.be/X_uy4OSpUKE?t=14m40s
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#2992
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:20
I have weird slowdowns in my game. It's not the framerate, it's a proper slowdown, especially during fights and heavily populated areas. If somebody yells something during that time, it sounds very odd. It can also happen in the middle of nowhere, like in the Western Approach.
It usually resolves itself after a few minutes, but it appears regurlarly. It's weird, especially because the game is very stable otherwise.
I'm on a laptop, i7 4500 U (1.8 Ghz), Nvidia 750m with another integrated graphic card. I am able to play the game on medium-high and the slowdown is present on all configurations I tried (low, medium, modified medium, high).
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#2993
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:20
The Dragon Age Zoomed out hack in action.
Fast forward to see Tactical Cam combat in action
https://www.youtube....YlvXmx9A8#t=154
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#2994
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:23
Is anyone else having problem with the focus powers? I unlocked the second tier of focus and had two of the three bars filling like they should be. But then last night I unlocked the third and final tier, and now only the first bar fills. I've tried using my focus ability to see if that triggers it to fill up properly, but no change. Anyone else encounter this?
For reference, the perks are under Advanced Focus and Master Focus.
#2995
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:23
I will freely admit that is what put me off.
I am playing another game on PC right now with very similar control scheme to DAI. I picked it up with no expectations and am having a good time. This "other" game also has more customization options, and is not a tactical RPG.
Not so with DAI. It was jarring.
I recognize that it is impossible to know for sure what changes, even if they are "good," will trigger such a response.
I have nothing to back this up, but I get the sense that the professional reviews pretty well match the customer satisfaction with DAI. I have a feeling we kb/m whiners are a tiny, vocal minority. So, what I am saying is, I appreciate that Bioware is even engaging the issue.
Side note, Mr. Schmacher: Your measured, honest and respectful involvement on the forum is very commendable.
Ha, very similar to my experience. Picked DA:I up with full expectation of it being DA:O Version 3.0. Got lost with the controls within the first 5 minutes, went on internets to validate that I was not doing something wrong and realized it was designed this way. Got bummed out for a few days and then approached DA:I as if it was, well DA:I Version 1.0. Pretty good game actually! I find it very similar to Skyrim, superficially of course. I do have to say that with the controls as they are right now, I cannot play for more than about 1-2 hours at a time, hurts my hands. Biggest beef for me (when evaluating this game as DA:I Version 1.0) is that I have to hold the right mouse button to pan the camera. Frankly, I would rather have to hold the right mouse button to interact with the UI since that would equate to about 98% less mouse button holding and thus allow me to play more than 1-2 hours at a time.
For the dedicated, loyal DA:O fan, I feel for you as this game is not that at this point. I think it could be, again superficially, UI and controls can be tweaked and more than likely will be over time. The change in play style (to more Action and away from CRPG) though, I think will be very difficult if not impossible for BW to change.
The crashes occur in just about every game released in the last several years. Too many variations of configurations and configuration combinations in the world to be able to test them all. This is really what BETA is used for, get the game out to some masses to sample its performance and reliability in these myriad of configuration combinations. Of course as soon as you do a BETA, there are leaks of story and other aspects that will occur, likely why a lot of companies are not doing it, I don't actually know.
As I said above, I am playing this on a pretty old nvidia card (3 Gig GTX 580), frankly so far the game is running about as good (perhaps even better) than Skyrim! My game has not crashed, I thought it was hung a few times in the UI due to some issue with the mouse but found that right clicking on the game screen seems to reset the mouse and makes it work again. No CTDs yet and not crashes, not sure why, I have tons of games installed and pretty well all of them (with exception of Mordor) has crashed at least once or 10 times.
The single biggest fact that is causing this escalation of "hostilities" from my point of view is the "promise" that BW made way back that this will be a PC oriented game (paraphrased from actual quote but I do believe that most people took it that way). Since the promise itself had no substance to it and no details, everybody went ahead and painted their own picture of what that actually looks like. I too question choices like "no walk ability" for PC players, the fact that this made it into the game and then be isolated to PC platform only is pretty hard to imagine, but I do work in software myself and I see this kind of thing day in and day out. Again, I am not excusing BW/EA.
When people feel they have been betrayed, they will lash out and here we are.
One more thing if I may though. As I mentioned, I am in software (not a developer but a manager) and I can safely say that the design decisions behind the UI, tactics, Tac cam, Control scheme, etc. were not made by the developers but by the game designers. Whether or not the developers were also game designers, I do not know but I highly doubt it. Bashing devs for these items is misdirected in my opinion.
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#2996
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:23
Some of those sites don't really seem to be very credible.
The EA stock also seems to be doing fairly well. I can't find any quote about poor performance etc. etc. and lies. That's inflammatory language that may be fine for disappointed and frustrated customers and fans on the forums,but I'd find that language surprising in any credible publication.
I actually think when sales figures are out, they will be excellent for EA.
I agree. I think Pen_N_Paper is done now. Just like I predicted in another thread what seems a long time ago, DA:I will go on and recover from the early criticism, just like FO3. Gamers will discover a good game.
It will still be tremendous if they can fix the PC-interface though. I'm feeling like I never will be really interested if that is not done.
In any case, it won't happen immediately. Game-breaking bugs and functional things will be fixed first.
#2997
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:25
The Dragon Age Zoomed out hack in action.
Fast forward to see Tactical Cam combat in action
Awesome!
With that camera and point and click controls I would be happy.
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#2998
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:31
I think Pen_N_Paper is done now.
One can only hope.
#2999
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:36
The Dragon Age Zoomed out hack in action.
Fast forward to see Tactical Cam combat in action
So, where does one find this "fix"?
It looks like this would take care of most of the lack of PC controls, no? Can someone who uses this confirm that?
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#3000
Posté 28 novembre 2014 - 06:41
zMataxa,
Just a question, was all that necessary? You do realize that in your attempt to stop the "bashing" you, in fact, only contributed to the bashing? No you weren't bashing bioware, you bashing the players. People who come to this forum because they have issues and "concerns". as the title of this thread is "PC Community Concerns" what did you expect to find? Also, i've read every single page of this forum and to be quite honest I don't see anything wrong with it. People who bought this game whether by preorder, day 1 release or whatever, are here because there are bugs...i say "bugs" In general, yes i'm lumping all the concerns together as im not going to relist all the concerns/bugs/ issues/ whatever you want to call them. We all want a patch, info on said patch, and even eta on said patch so we can actually play this game and ENJOY it. Some people can't even get passed the menu, some cannot launch it at all. People are frustrated. You have no right to come on here and tell them "Go some where else and start a thread for that". Yes I too see that there are some posts (as there are in EVERY forum on the internet) that are a bit...extreme. Have you never said something in frustration? I like Bioware, i've bought many many of their games. I bought this one and am having serious issues with it. I'd like to play the game without resorting to scouring the webs for fixes and hacking my computer to make it work. Many others would as well. You coming to this thread and essentially bashing the players who have VERY LEGITIMATE issues with the product they purchased has only served to create more bashing and NO solution. If YOU have a solution POST IT And MOVE ON. and no, saying "GO make another thread" is not a solution, nor is "adapt". If You cannot get to the menu and your gaming rig EXCEEDS the recommended specs......"adapting" is not possible. You're only adding fuel to the fires of frustration and annoyances. This is all i have to say. Take care.
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