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I've already read a news story where Ubisoft gives a DLC for the problems that occurred with the game ... I hope to get the same treatment with DA: I, I think the minimum and also because since he came out that I'm not playing for all these bugs etc.
If the first patch does not address some serious pc control scheme issues in addition to the gamebreaking bugs, this forum is only going to get worse and exterior sources and websites will ramp up the criticism of the game.
I've already read a news story where Ubisoft gives a DLC for the problems that occurred with the game ... I hope to get the same treatment with DA: I, I think the minimum and also because since he came out that I'm not playing for all these bugs etc.
Ha-ha. EA. Free stuff. Ha-ha-ha
Hey Bioware Guys,
would it be possible, instead of doing a great Patch to fix as much as possible, to do some small patches in a row?
At least to fix stuff which can be fixed easely so we can have it? That would ease the "pain" a bit.
I think you Bioware Guys know that waiting 14Days + is not that "funny" at all, even that we know, cause you said so, that you work on all that.
Maybe consider that at least? That would help both sides big time.
FIX for those wanting the ability to zoom out further: http://forum.cheaten...5563701#5563701
Apparently zoom is stored as a byte code and can be "cheated" to let you zoom out further..
Heads up Bioware.. if the guys at the CE forums can "fix" the zoom issue it should be a no brainer for the people who actually coded the game.
Holy crap that is fantastic. Add autoattack and a laptop user may even be able to angle upwards to those high rifts properly.
Two weeks, Bio--that's how it's done.
This looks sweeeeeeeeeet
Over 3000 posts in this thread and not even one Single useful comment or information about a patch from bioware sind over one WEEK -..... WOOHOO i'm looking forward to Mass Effect 4 .....MUAHAHAHHA ............. NOT!
Someone on r/dragon age fixed the tactical view mode. Something bioware still couldn't do.
Amazing!
This is good new in many ways. Firstly is the obvious, You can use this "cheat" to make the tactical camera actually usable in-game.
Not the sorry POS excuse for a tactical cam it is now.
But it's also good news in a way that it tells us that if a "ordinary person" without access to the game code more or less can fix the tactical camera in a few days on his own, then the game developers with proper access to the code and tools should be able to fix this with ease in the next patch.
And we can also be sure about one thing; If Bioware doesnt patch the tactical camera it's not because they can't due to engine limitations. It's because they don't want to.
It's as I've said before I see no reason the control scheme from Origins and DAII would not have worked here. The paranoid man in me says that the changes have been made for multiplayer, where I confess they do seem to make that little bit more sense.
The hard part for me is that seemingly no-one at Bioware saw that people who had played the first two games would have issue with this new control scheme.
Why do they keep trying to turn Dragon Age into something else. Dragon Age should be Dragon Age. It doesn't need to be Mass Effect, or Skyrim, or Dragon's Dogma, or World of Warcraft, etc. There's a reason that Dragon Age: Origins is still so popular today.
While I still think Inquisition is a fantastic game, and some of the choices and story content pan out amazingly - I definitely have a lingering concern that some of the gameplay elements are leaning towards pushing Dragon Age into MMO territory.
A lot of the feel is also a lot of the feel I got with the way C&C progressed, with those changes an attempt to create a competitor to the juggernaut that is Star Craft.
I hope it's just a feeling, but there has been more than one occasion where Inquisition, once again despite being awesome, has had game play mechanics felt like they don't belong in a single player game.
Over 3000 posts in this thread and not even one Single useful comment or information about a patch from bioware sind over one WEEK -..... WOOHOO i'm looking forward to Mass Effect 4 .....MUAHAHAHHA ............. NOT!
Mass Effect: Next Not
would it be possible, instead of doing a great Patch to fix as much as possible, to do some small patches in a row?
I think it's clear they have decided not to do things that way...
I wonder if Bioware's goal of 'parity across platforms' is part of the reason why a more functional tactical camera wasn't implemented. We can only conjecture to what extent the new engine, console limitations or design priorities determined its state at release. Nevertheless, it raises an interesting question of fairness if a more functional tactical camera may be possible on the PC but not on consoles. Should PC users be denied a superior camera (if possible) just so console users don't miss out?
If they would just patch the auto-attack (and add auto-follow target) and point and click movement from the tac cam to action cam and unlock every key and mouse button to be mapped to our taste it would go a long way to improve the PC controls.
i am sure that they will fix the glaring bugs and stuff....(they kind of have to)...After DA2. ME 3 and now this fubar i have no faith left for bioware...maybe they will surprise me and release a patch that is everything I hoped DAI was said to be..... 
For sure. My question was more about making sure I understood what people were talking about just to make sure that we were on the same page.
with all do respect but i really hope you understand the issues people have with pc controls by now.
just give people the controls they had in DA origins and DA2 to start with , aswell as the option to give more tactical preferences for each character as was possible in previous 2 games
what annoys most people that are annoyed by the game is that you did it great 2 times then neglected to do it on the third installment. Am giving the game 1 month from release to fix the controls for pc.
anybody on the team still that did controls implementation from previous DAs ?
I wonder if Bioware's goal of 'parity across platforms' is part of the reason why a more functional tactical camera wasn't implemented. We can only conjecture to what extent the new engine, console limitations or design priorities determined its state at release. Nevertheless, it raises an interesting question of fairness if a more functional tactical camera may be possible on the PC but not on consoles. Should PC users be denied a superior camera (if possible) just so console users don't miss out?
Tac Cam is new for consoles. Not new on PC.
It worked perfectly in DA Origins because it used the exact same camera controls as regular mode when you entered it.
Instead of keeping that formula on PC (the smart thing to do), they decided to voluntarily re-design the pc camera controls from the ground up (literally - that ground cursor is the cause of the problem) and shoehorn a console-specific design onto the pc version, where it doesn't work and creates exponentially more issues.
^^ That is design-specific policy. Somebody at Bioware made that choice. They did not have to do it that way.
conducted a little experiment with running the game.
4 cores - a stable job
3 core - a slight drop in performance.
2 cores - a strong performance drop + periodic freezing.
1 core - very low performance. often freezing.
Why BioWare were not allowed to run on 3 core processor?
In what ways is WASD not responsive enough? The inertia of starting moving? I'm not sure why would hold LMB+RMB alleviate this when at first glance it seems like it wouldn't be much different than holding LMB+RMB = holding W.
Just curious if the issue is something else and that LMB+RMB wouldn't innately fix that if that other issue wasn't addressed.
Allan, WASD is not reponsive enough because you either have to take your fingers off the movement keys to to activate skills or take your eyes off the action to look at the skill bar so you can click with the mouse, it just doesnt work.
A PC game like this must have point and click movement, auto-attack with auto-follow target which leaves your keyboard hand free to activate hot keys and the like, (yes even in action mode, sorry but tac cam is just a clunky mess that is nothing like DA:O as I think it was bill as).
today @ bioware office Mail Server
Alan: "Hey Mark whatsup with the patch?"
Mark: "What patch?"
Alan: "You know - the patch for the pc controls and the performance lack"
Mark: "What patch?"
Alan: "?"
Mark: "??"
Alan: "READ THE THREAD MAN - over 3000 senseless posts man - they are not satisfied - they want a patch - they pay'd for that man"
Mark: "What patch?"
Alan: "oh maaaann...."
Alan thinking ....
Alan to community: "Hey guys - We're working on it! As soon as we know some more details we will share the information with you !! Thanks for waiting :-)!! You're the best community ever!"
In my experience, vanilla DAO was a fine game that became a superb game after twelve months or so of modding, DA2 was a below average game that became an average game after twelve months or so of modding, and DAI could become a fine game with twelve months or so of modding... but without modding, there is no chance of Bioware's devs getting the game to that state as there is no real incentive for them to do so... modders have passion, creativity and patience, the devs have timetables, pressure and the next project... so how do Bioware rescue this game? Release the toolkit and let the modders loose, it's what pc does well after all...
The game itself is fine, story etc, but it's the input from the player that is the problem (i.e. User interface, combat, Zoom, etc) that is the problem.
And the lack of modding, that originally existed in Origins.
Tac Cam is new for consoles. Not new on PC.
It worked perfectly in DA Origins because it used the exact same camera controls as regular mode when you entered it.
Instead of keeping that formula on PC (the smart thing to do), they decided to voluntarily re-design the pc camera controls from the ground up (literally - that ground cursor is the cause of the problem) and shoehorn a console-specific design onto the pc version, where it doesn't work and creates exponentially more issues.
^^ That is design-specific policy. Somebody at Bioware made that choice. They did not have to do it that way.
Yes, this much seems obvious. I do find it hard to believe that they couldn't have designed an Origins-style camera if they had chosen too, assuming budget and platform parity wasn't an issue.
It is commendable if they didn't want console users to miss out on the tactical camera like for Origins, unfortunately the result of their decision(s) regarding the camera hasn't exactly worked out for anyone.
Again, I wonder if Bioware will significantly improve the tactical camera on PC if unable to do the same for console, even assuming it is a practicable thing to patch for PC.
conducted a little experiment with running the game.
4 cores - a stable job
Spoiler3 core - a slight drop in performance.
Spoiler2 cores - a strong performance drop + periodic freezing.
Spoiler1 core - very low performance. often freezing.
Spoiler
Why BioWare were not allowed to run on 3 core processor?
Happens to most of us... I can run FC4, Shadows of Mordor at Med settings and w/ no hiccups or crashes...*Not even pass the minimum specs
and with DAI I pass minimum specs bat lags like the breach has been opened on my lappy lol... especially in towns, skyhold... :'(
Intel 15 3210m
8gb ram
Nvidia gtx660m 2 gb
I think it's clear they have decided not to do things that way...
Sry but for me it is not that "clear" tho. Just because it has not happend yet does not mean they won't go that way at all.
I think if we make clear that this would be an awesome thing to live with, as they work on other things, they might change their minds about that tho.
And even with 3000+ Postings in here, i haven't seen that mentioned somewhere or im blind or rather missed it. (i'm an Old Fart so forgive me if i have missed that rly 
)
If they would just patch the auto-attack (and add auto-follow target) and point and click movement from the tac cam to action cam and unlock every key and mouse button to be mapped to our taste it would go a long way to improve the PC controls.
i am sure that they will fix the glaring bugs and stuff....(they kind of have to)...After DA2. ME 3 and now this fubar i have no faith left for bioware...maybe they will surprise me and release a patch that is everything I hoped DAI was said to be.....
I was finally able to get a significant amount of playing time in the last two days, and I can live with WASD if they implement auto-attack and auto-follow. It's really difficult to steer my character around *a certain throne room* to chase *a certain bad guy* during a fight without those two features. While my character is hacking away at a stone support my companions are chasing him down. That's poor implementation.
I would really like to be able to play any class but archer or mage on difficulty beyond Casual.
All thoughts suppressed! Do not want to vent!
2 class game on Easy!
Bordering on criminal what they have done
I would really like to be able to play any class but archer or mage on difficulty beyond Casual.
All thoughts suppressed! Do not want to vent!
2 class game on Easy!
Bordering on criminal what they have done
OT but this is not true in any shape, form or fashion. E.g. tac mode has click to attack, just use that to coordinate during harder fights if running melee classes. If **** really hits the fan, turn off AI and micromanage like in DAO. I'm currently dagger rogue on nightmare and doing just fine in that regard.
As for this thread, I feel like a lot of the somewhat unfounded criticism actually deters from Bioware finding out about actual issues. Focus, people!
Edit: if your message was meant as sarcastic, I apologize! hungover and not on my A game
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