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[TobyJake]

That's not happening to most PC players, including myself. The game is broken for you, and that's unfortunate, but it's not broken for everyone.

I am just recovering from BSD that took out everything. I am getting them now

[Fire Snake]

I think the phrase "PC-led" is vague and meaningless marketing, and certainly not something that one should base their purchase of a game on. I agree with you that the UI is very important to whether something is enjoyable on PC. I wouldn't discount engine optimisation because that's a great deal of the fun on playing on PC, IMO, but I do think they two work in tandem to a great extent.

I used TW2 as an example because its fan base would not accept any suggestion that the game wasn't all about the PC despite a UI design to try and allow CDPR to move units on the 360. My point was simply that Bioware's poor attempts at impressing PC gamers are nothing unusual when compared to other RPG makers and to the extent people are OK with the practice industry wide there's no logic to zeroing in on Bioware.

 

For sure, I pretty much agree with all of this. To be frank, anyone that bought the game based on Bioware's marketing hype would do well to consider engaging more critically as a consumer. I'm not absolving Bioware of any responsibility here, simply noting that a good solution to avoiding these sorts of dramas resulting from misaligned expectations is for consumers to become more empowered in making good choices. Both developers and consumers are responsible for this.

[TobyJake]

I really hope that the patch will be solid...

Why doesn't this get posted in here? Is no one reading?

[Fire Snake]

Let me be clear that this is in no way a legal opinion. This is just random internet speculation on my part and past experience making customer complaints when I got told off plus what I learned reading that article I linked to earlier. I don't even know if there are lawyers who practice in this area but anyone who wants to know about their rights regarding a complaint to the FTC should find an American lawyer to get advice.

 

I didn't intend to suggest you were giving a professional legal opinion, merely your appraisal of the legal situation as opposed to your personal view of the truth and fairness of Bioware's video and the claims made within it. Let me rephrase myself. If a friend of yours who enjoyed DA:O and similar styled games asked you for your opinion on whether DA:Inquisition played like Origins, would you advise them that the tactical camera and pause and play was just like in Origins?

[Fire Snake]

Every EA game being made is to be on Frostbite.

Starting with all developers except sports franchises, which will be folded into Frostbite by 2017.



This is not speculation on my part.

http://www.engadget....ld-mass-effect/

 

Even considering their initial change to Frostbite was voluntary, they most probably don't have a choice any more.

[Chaos17]

Not to mention the fact that blizzard uses 12 year old technology and effort, recycles old game sounds, textures, animations, graphics and gameplay from 2001 and charges 2014 prices for it. If I only had to pay 2.00 to make enough lemonade for 500 people but sold it for 250.00 a cup I'd probably fix issues with it too. If Blizzard doesn't then their fanboys might get suspicious and actually realize that every single game the company releases is a massive rip-off. 

 

[Topher]

I have to say I am currently extremely disappointed with the current PC release of the game. That a game supposedly for PC gamers developed by PC gamers can be so technically unsound, and keyboard and mouse unfriendly, has me scratching my head.

 

You guys are better than this.

 

I was able to play the game on the lowest settings for small periods of time (maybe 10 mins) without crashing today...that is something I guess. It looked terrible though, and still played rough and stuttery. I couldn't get past the first cut scene before. I had downloaded all patches and spent a ton of time trying to solve the problems on my end only to realize there is nothing wrong on my end. My machine exceeds all minimum and recommended requirements...

 

I do however appreciate all the time you appear to be putting into fielding all these questions and comments and I can only hope you have a full crew working as diligently as you are in fixing this very broken thing we have all purchased.

 

Out of curiosity...how can I make the shiny hair/beard/armor go away? It may seem a trivial thing, but I am trying to fix the things I (or you) have the power to fix and accept the things I (or you) cannot or will not fix at this point.

 

Thanks again for your time.

[Fire Snake]

DOS has it's share of flaws. The UI is clunky (too many clicks to get things done), the story is forgetable, the game is too easy once u get the crafting system and start to abuse Guerilla+Sneak+Glass Cannon combo. Finished off the Void Dragon on the highest difficulty (hard i think)  with a well built character in about 2-3 minutes. The game IS good, but I doubt it is GOTY material.

 

I find GOTY proclamations about as helpful to making my purchasing decisions as a slap in the face with a wet fish.

[Ieolus]

 

 

 

 

 

You are right, we do not know the limitations of the Frostbite engine. However, I feel that they could have done a better job with the one that exist as a framework for the bad UI we ended up with.

 

If they only had lua based UI, Andraste! We might have been able to mod some parts of it, we will never know

 

 

From what I've read, Frostbite 3 uses LUA.

[Snazzy]

hey nobody said its ok some people cant play. but when dramaqueens always throw overstatements like majority around its only fair to bring in a little reality. every single one that cant play has really my sympathy and i understand the anger, but to people that just because of frustration are loosing every sense of reality (which make the frustration even worth) i say just.....grow up

 

Funny how you tell people who paid for a product they still can't play after two weeks of paying for it to grow up. They haven't even gotten any assurance on when the patch will drop or what the patch is even addressing, let alone if it will even fix the stability issues. For people like me who bought a physical copy - we are out of luck and can't refund this broken mess. So go and play your game that you are enjoying, because people like me, which includes quite a few people, are left with a sixty dollar paper weight with no compensation nor any recognition. 

 

 

I think that you should realize that, seriously, most players is not the same thing as many players. I'm not disputing that many people are having problems. I'm arguing that the game is not literally unplayable for most PC gamers, which was the entire point. (And I don't mean literally in its new-timey "figurative" sense, I mean it in its old-timey "literal" sense.)

 

I'm just saying that extrapolating your issue (or an issue) to make it everyone's issue is not constructive. There are a lot of posters in this thread who simply are refusing to play the game because they don't like what they've heard about the controls, and some of those people are calling the game "unplayable" which is a disservice to the people who literally cannot play the game.

 

Thank you for literally pointing out the same exact thing I was pointing out. It's easy to have a majority of hundreds of thousands of people. But out of those hundreds of thousands of people, there are still THOUSANDS of people who are having issues with the game. You are defending this as being okay because the majority of people aren't having issues...which is a little snobbish and inconsiderate if you ask me. "OHHHH Im having so much fun with this game! So screw you and Bioware hasn't done anything wrong!" That's not what I and thousands of others feel. And yes, the game is both figuratively and LITERALLY unplayable for a ton of us, me being one of them. Not only is the interface and controls atrocious beyond belief, but it crashes my incredibly expensive rig every 20 or so minutes. Something like this should've never got passed testing, so yes I do believe we should voice up about it so some future potential buyers will NOT buy this game. You are defending Bioware in a situation where they shouldn't be defended. Bioware shouldn't get away with releasing **** like this. And if we don't speak up about it and if people don't listen to us, they will continue to shovel these trash "beta testing" releases on the pc community. 

Seriously. I don't know how you defend these business practices. 

[rift]

Out of curiosity...how can I make the shiny hair/beard/armor go away? It may seem a trivial thing, but I am trying to fix the things I (or you) have the power to fix and accept the things I (or you) cannot or will not fix at this point.

Keep everything else low, but increase the Mesh setting.

[DarkTl]

I'm not sure if someone have posted it here before, but apparently there's a reply from Bioware GM on neoGAF forums:

Ah, so that's where we have to post about bugs after all if we want devs to read and reply, but neither here nor on EA forums. I see, I see.

[Joe-Poe]

Ah, so that's where we have to post about bugs after all if we want devs to read and reply, but neither here nor on EA forums. I see, I see.

I know right, they can't talk to us on their own forums but they can on some other site or twitter......

[Monica21]

Thank you for literally pointing out the same exact thing I was pointing out. It's easy to have a majority of hundreds of thousands of people. But out of those hundreds of thousands of people, there are still THOUSANDS of people who are having issues with the game. You are defending this as being okay because the majority of people aren't having issues...which is a little snobbish and inconsiderate if you ask me. "OHHHH Im having so much fun with this game! So screw you and Bioware hasn't done anything wrong!" That's not what I and thousands of others feel. And yes, the game is both figuratively and LITERALLY unplayable for a ton of us, me being one of them. Not only is the interface and controls atrocious beyond belief, but it crashes my incredibly expensive rig every 20 or so minutes. Something like this should've never got passed testing, so yes I do believe we should voice up about it so some future potential buyers will NOT buy this game. You are defending Bioware in a situation where they shouldn't be defended. Bioware shouldn't get away with releasing **** like this. And if we don't speak up about it and if people don't listen to us, they will continue to shovel these trash "beta testing" releases on the pc community.

Seriously. I don't know how you defend these business practices.

I'm not defending BioWare. I'm saying that people with CTDs are not the majority of PC gamers. If you think flipping tables and frothing at the mouth is going to help the fact that there's still no patch, then have at it.

[adr750227]

lets do the math. if only1 in 100 players with problems complains in the forums and lets estimate here are 300 people complaining about the game (assumed everyone is a pc user) thats still only 30000. the game sold alone 176000 boxes, digital not counted. who said the MAJORITY have problems with the game?

 

just because it works for your little unicorn-around-the-lake world to assume its 1 in 100 doesn't mean it is...it could be way more; and by how things are unfolding, its seems to be WAY WAY more; there is people now coming forward who didn't even know they were suppose to be listening music while playing....even using your numbers, it means almost 20% of players have issues...a fifth of your players having issues with this game doesn't bode well for Bioware...or EA....

 

This game IS a buggy mess...and in time, Bioware will pay dearly for it one way or another.....

[Elfyoth]

Bioware, tell us somthing just one thing, will you care about us, PC gamers? Or you care more about consoles, please give us answer, when a patch will be released and more. I am a huge fan of your games, but it suddens me to see pepole who can play it on ultra and have spended lower than friggin 2000 dollars for your game, I have waited since it was a friggin rumour, and now you dissapoint me for spending 2060 dollars which means 1670 erous somthing like that, and becouse I live in Israel I needed to wait extra three days and pay 69 erous for the delux edition which is more than the north americans have paid, so it means 1670+69 means I have paid somthing like 1739 erous. For your game, but it plays horrible for me, slow and lags and crashes and when I log in it crashed GG bioware, I have faith that you will fix this but TELL US tell us when!!

[Glaso]

Saying that a grid UI is a true PC UI is going too far. We can all agree that DAI has a bad UI without getting into a war about what a good RPG UI is like.

It's not just about the grid (although drop down lists are not practicall at all) it's about how much info you can cram on one screen without having to flip through dozens of menus.

[Monica21]

just because it works for your little unicorn-around-the-lake world to assume its 1 in 100 doesn't mean it is...it could be way more; and by how things are unfolding, its seems to be WAY WAY more; there is people now coming forward who didn't even know they were suppose to be listening music while playing....even using your numbers, it means almost 20% of players have issues...a fifth of your players having issues with this game doesn't bode well for Bioware...or EA....

This game IS a buggy mess...and in time, Bioware will pay dearly for it one way or another.....

For the record, absolutely NO ONE is saying that the game is perfect and bugs shouldn't be addressed. No one is saying that CTDs and driver issues shouldn't be investigated and fixed, and hopefully, those are first on the priority list.

[Fire Snake]

Thats what Im trying to figure out.

 

Theres Divine, Beyond, II, Dragon Commander and then Original Sin.. I googled the release dates for them and it seems to go like this:

 

Divine - Sept 2002

II (Which I think is Ego Draconis) - Oct 2002

Beyond - April 2004

Dragon Commander - August 2013

Origin Sin - Now

 

But I wanted to get a confirmation before I started anything..

 

All the Divinity games are very different from the Dragon Age franchise. They are also so different from each other (excepting Divine Divinity and Beyond Divinity) that I find it hard to consider them as part of the same series, despite sharing a continuity of lore/evolving timeline of the world.

 

You can really start anywhere as the lore is not especially compelling in my opinion. Larian has always emphasised game-play (and arguably their trademark humour) over storytelling/world-building, so I'd advise choosing the game most suiting your mood at the time.

 

Chronologically (according to events in the fictional universe) the games go:

Dragon Commander - [an interesting RTS-RPG hybrid that is rather light in both departments but may be more than the sum of its parts if you like it]

Original Sin - [widely believed to be by far their best game yet, isometric, turn-based, classic roleplaying game with exceptional freedom of gameplay]

Divine Divinity - [inspired by the original Diablo with similar action combat yet rich RPG elements, isometric, classic style, a cult-classic for some].

Beyond Divinity - [similar to Divine Divinity but their poorest game (apparently due to publisher shenanigans), don't bother unless you really like Divine Divinity]

The Dragon Knight Saga - (the enhanced version of Ego Draconis) [3D console-influenced action-RPG with some interesting fun mechanics and engaging story]

 

source of chronology with lots of lore: http://www.kickstart...in/posts/452503

 

 

Edited to add this from wikipedia (Ego Draconis + Flames of Vengeance + enhancements = Dragon Knight Saga), I believe this is correct.

• Divine Divinity (2002)
• Beyond Divinity (2004)
• Divinity II: Ego Draconis (2009)
• Divinity II: Flames of Vengeance (2010)
• Divinity: Dragon Commander (2013)
• Divinity: Original Sin (2014)

[shadow2761]

I was wondering is there any fix for the terrible menu and cut scene performance yet? Cut scenes are terrible atm, very choppy and sluggish and slow, but when ingame controlling the character its not bad at all.

 

My specs:

MSI Z87 Gaming GD65

i5-4670K @ 4.2 GHz

2x8GB GSkill Trident X @ 2133 MHz

2x MSI GTX 980 Gaming

 

I have already tried 'GameTime.MaxSimFps 60 -GameTime.ForceSimRate 60+' in shorcut solution, but it did not help much.

[dantares83]

while i am ok with the few glitches here and there, is a patch coming soon?

 

particularly the one where i get no music except at the tarven?

[Wildspirit]

Bioware, tell us somthing just one thing, will you care about us, PC gamers? Or you care more about consoles, please give us answer, when a patch will be released and more. I am a huge fan of your games, but it suddens me to see pepole who can play it on ultra and have spended lower than friggin 2000 dollars for your game, I have waited since it was a friggin rumour, and now you dissapoint me for spending 2060 dollars which means 1670 erous somthing like that, and becouse I live in Israel I needed to wait extra three days and pay 69 erous for the delux edition which is more than the north americans have paid, so it means 1670+69 means I have paid somthing like 1739 erous. For your game, but it plays horrible for me, slow and lags and crashes and when I log in it crashed GG bioware, I have faith that you will fix this but TELL US tell us when!!

 

Well as for your first question, it's pretty clear they're going full console mode from now on...

 

As for the patch, my guess is that one little patch with some stability and crash fixes will come at the end of the week or next week, but nothing major.

 

Lastly, Bioware / EA is not responsible for you buying a new rig. Furthemore, keep in mind that even if your first motivation was to play DA:I, it will serve you for other games (and judging by the price you paid, you should have a prety decent rig for years to come) so please, keep things about the game

 

Try different settings, upgrading your drivers, disable windows aero etc...

[Lord Surinen]

Well as for your first question, it's pretty clear they're going full console mode from now on...

 

As for the patch, my guess is that one little patch with some stability and crash fixes will come at the end of the week or next week, but nothing major.

 

Lastly, Bioware / EA is not responsible for you buying a new rig. Furthemore, keep in mind that even if your first motivation was to play DA:I, it will serve you for other games (and judging by the price you paid, you should have a prety decent rig for years to come) so please, keep things about the game

 

Try different settings, upgrading your drivers, disable windows aero etc...

Please, do not joke this way. It has been 2 week since the game release. At this point to expect anything less than major patch would speak badly about me(us).

[Doctorwho]

while i am ok with the few glitches here and there, is a patch coming soon?

 

particularly the one where i get no music except at the tarven?

and the sound cutting while you are close to a fire, water or intense battle, without any FPS drop..what's up with that? Same s**t was with Battlefield 4 maybe you should take a note. I see Bioware will make mass effect game with the same engine so you should definitely take a note. SORRY little bit angry here, i am waiting since the game release like many others to fix this annoying audio bug....so i can start playing.