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[BammBamm]

Yes, but it's misleading, and intentionally so. Anyone have a link to that earlier video that showed a zoomed out tac cam?

 

sure its missleading, thats because its called advertise products. everything is great and even better and whiter as white in advertising. no new concept to be honest, and at least they show the reality (evil eye to alien colonial marines and watchdogs). people have to relearn to think by themself and not what advertisement professionals want them to think, you could latest have seen what the game is about 12 days before release when the first reviews came out, but people will never learn

[egervari]

Not really sure why people are trolling in support of Bioware...They released a game that is broken from a very basic level. Yes its playable for people that dont mind altering their normal layout...ie controller or WSAD..I'm a good example. I've been playing games on PC since Duke Nukem 3d lol and I've never used WSAD i've always used the arrow keys for movement, enter for jump etc etc. Played CS and all the BF/COD games like this and that is the way I feel comfortable. When I move over to WSAD it feels completely awkward to me so I choose not to do it. 

 

My point is that one of the great things about the PC is its ability to allow many many different ways to do the same task. That's how its been for damn near 99% of AAA games as well. The point with the AAA games is that the devs put in the time to give you the best experience and the best bang for your buck. 

 

This game doesn't allow binding of the side mouse buttons, remapping of the LMB/RMB, doesn't allow you to zoom out when using a controller like you can with the scroll wheel on the mouse, doesn't allow you walk when using a KB/M. Yes some of these have work around....but this is a 60$ game why the f**l do I need a work around. 

 

That's why I don't understand people like Gothfather sticking up for this. Just seems trollish and childish to ignore those facts. 

The term "Bioware Apologist" is used very commonly for a reason. There are just so many of these people who irrational defend the company for factual mistakes and misteps, just like a religious apologist.

 

Like you, I don't understand it either. I would only defend a company if I was super in love with the game and I thought the person was just trying to smear the company unjustly, which isn't the case when it comes to criticisms about DA:I.

[Tarzilman]

to be fair, you can exactly do with the given controls the things they show in the video. they show exactly the same ui that is ingame.

 

I had the same thoughts. Although they are talking different things than we experience at the moment. Things like "You can do everything what you could do in DA:O".

[Truevoiceman]

Ok for a while I was able to get in the game and actually play, I've leveled up and have had a decent amount of game play. Unfortunately throughout that period the frame rate issue was so bad I felt like I was playing the game in water or in slow motion. I had a Radeon HD6670 with 2 gig of ddr3. Long story short I figured what the hell I'll upgrade. I now have a R9 270x with 2 gig of ddr5 so you think the issue would go away. Nope worse!!! Now I can't get in the servers like I couldn't the first two to three days after installation. ESO looks great and plays very nicely, even while I'm downloading a huge update on my Linux computer on my router network!! Skyrim Rocks and looks like it's never done before, every game I have is now at ultra settings WITHOUT ANY ISSUES. Times up BioWare!!!! A fix is needed by the people who had the faith to buy your game! Your user rating on Metacritic for this game has reached 5.2, you need to listen to your users and get on the ball!

 

If anyone else having these issues is using and AMD Radeon or and AMD card speak up, perhaps these issues are indicative of an AMD problem with the game! Who knows, I'm going back to Shadows of Mordor and ESO until the issue is resolved!

[Hurbster]

By the way, does the game have a persistent gore like DAO? Because my party is always clean and shiny.

It's a toggle in the options.

 

So along with all the performance, control and UI problems (lets not forget the music and lack of chat problems as well) I am now a proud member of the crash to desktop club. Also some of the armour has some textures missing, I can see through my characters waist when I wear some crafted Vanguard armour.

[Brogan]

I just got BSOD from mouclass.sys DLL. This is a MOUSE DRIVER.

 

Not surprising at all...

 

In other news...  Windows 10 will have a start menu.

[Tarzilman]

Maybe another month we all anyone knows. They are certainly not very responsive nor do they communicate well with their customers. A bad example of how to run a gaming company.

 

It's similar to Piranha Games some months ago. Gladly they incredibly changed their infomation politics. Gosh, this even the same bulletin board only in a different color. It must be some kind of curse.

[ghostzodd]

He was put to pasture working dead end projects and nothing to do with what he wanted (DA or at least another IP). That's standard corporate policy for how to kick an employee out the door without actually firing them. It's not an illegal hostile environment and it doesn't require having to document performance issues or pay unemployment. But it is just as effective in getting someone you no longer want to leave your organization.

 

Ah I see. Its. I wonder how different DA would be if Brent did not leave and. if he  was still lead designer on the series

[Razael]

That's why I don't understand people like Gothfather sticking up for this. Just seems trollish and childish to ignore those facts. 

 

Eh, with such a large sample size of players there is always certainty that an outlier will be ok with whatever happened. An undeniable fact (unless you purposely decide to turn the other way) is that the vast majority of players find PC gameplay just... bad. Personal different opinions start to matter very little at this point.

[BammBamm]

Yes REALLY.

 

This is the typical arguement of some PC gamers I was talking about. I played DA:O and DA2 (Two not so much as I felt it was a bad game but this is what a 16 - 18 month development cycle will give you). SO don't try to give your argument some kind of extra authority it doesn't have by claiming past experience with previous games. First it assumes that past experience is not shared with people you disagree with and assumes past experience somehow equates with justification of expectations. It doesn't. Time and time again you were told this game was built on a FPS engine and time and time again you were told this game has similar but not identical controls to DA:O. I did not follow this game extensively until september/oct and even with my casual contact with the development of DA:I I KNEW these things. So if SOME PC gamers did not that is on them not EA or Bioware because they did tell you.

 

I am WISE enough to know games change, controls change and the only way games improve is if they CHANGE things that are not broken. Sometimes the changes are good sometimes they are not but invovation is vital to the industries survival. This is how we inovate, we have touch screens now because someone took a NOT broken system and changed it on our phones. So YES THEY SHOULD CHANGE SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT BROKEN.

 

I am sorry but Bioware NEVER promised you could play the game one handed. And its a stupid an argument as claiming there is no discriptive video so I can't play the game blind. yes its that stupid. Because your experiences from previous games mean nothing yes nothing. Bioware was VERY up front that this game was being made with a new engine and that engine was designed for a first person shooter. Name a shooter you can play one handed? They were also clear that there controls were similar to but not indetical to DA:O for the PC inerface.

 

They promised you could use mouse and keyboard controls and that the Ui would support it. And it does. The tac cam is 100% fully functional, its not perfect and the default bindings are sucky but that isn't anything new on computer games. i rebind almost all my controls in an MMO or the Witcher both PC only games so this idea that the default bindings are proof of a bad consol port is a strawman arguement at best at worst its delibertaly trying to misinform to strengthen your position. I think the only think you can't do in DA:I that you could in DA:O is click on loot and you auto run to pick it up. (Just an FYI you can click to move in tac cam)

 

Now if you expected to be able to play this game one handed and you can't thats tough luck, but you have or had the option to return the game. Origin has a liberal return policy. And anyone could have tried the game seen it can't be played with one hand and returned the game in said time window. So there can be ZERO claims to unfair business practises on that front.

 

I find it utterly baffling that somehow its EA/Bioware's fault for gamers having the expectation that a game designed on a SHOOTER engine could be played one handed and then to use this as a fraking justification to BLAME this bizzare expectation on the fact that you can't play the game one handed on the game was designed for consoles as well.

 

will you marry me and repopulate the earth with kids with a common sense?

[Razael]

sure its missleading, thats because its called advertise products. everything is great and even better and whiter as white in advertising. no new concept to be honest, and at least they show the reality (evil eye to alien colonial marines and watchdogs). people have to relearn to think by themself and not what advertisement professionals want them to think, you could latest have seen what the game is about 12 days before release when the first reviews came out, but people will never learn

 

Wow... to find this business models fair and ok is just an indication on how bad companies have been playing the consumer. Only thing I can agree on here is to wait days before release. Just keep in mind that we didn't have to do this 10 years ago

[kuhon]

My problem is: the game runs smoothly up to a certain point, then when arriving in the central lands, hangs with black screen and forces me to restart the PC.
My requirements are:

-Windows 8.1
-Intel Core I5 4690k
-Ati Radeon R9 280
-Motherboard Asus Maximus 7
-8GB Ripjaws DDR3 ram
-HD Caviar blak by a tera

is only a problem for me? A patch will fix this my inability to enjoy a title rightfully purchased?

Thanks and sorry for my English school.

[BammBamm]

Ok for a while I was able to get in the game and actually play, I've leveled up and have had a decent amount of game play. Unfortunately throughout that period the frame rate issue was so bad I felt like I was playing the game in water or in slow motion. I had a Radeon HD6670 with 2 gig of ddr3. Long story short I figured what the hell I'll upgrade. I now have a R9 270x with 2 gig of ddr5 so you think the issue would go away. Nope worse!!! Now I can't get in the servers like I couldn't the first two to three days after installation. ESO looks great and plays very nicely, even while I'm downloading a huge update on my Linux computer on my router network!! Skyrim Rocks and looks like it's never done before, every game I have is now at ultra settings WITHOUT ANY ISSUES. Times up BioWare!!!! A fix is needed by the people who had the faith to buy your game! Your user rating on Metacritic for this game has reached 5.2, you need to listen to your users and get on the ball!

 

If anyone else having these issues is using and AMD Radeon or and AMD card speak up, perhaps these issues are indicative of an AMD problem with the game! Who knows, I'm going back to Shadows of Mordor and ESO until the issue is resolved!

 

got exactly the same gpu and no problems (unless 4 crashes in the first two hours of the game and 1 freeze later) using mantle and the latest beta driver

[Hurbster]

It certainly is EA/Biowares fault that they released a buggy game with very poor PC optimization. 

[Less]

Dear BioWare. Please fix controls on PC. I cant really enjoy or even play "tactically" with  this controls and i am not the only one. 

 

1. AUTOATTACK its a very annoying to hold LMB and as a melee its a double pain because sometimes you just dont reach

2. CLICK TO MOVE/COLLECT

3. TACTICAL VIEW is a straight port from consoles. You cant select a few characters, cant zoom out, but you can clearly see a lot of console stuff

 

That is the most important ... please fix at least this. its not that hard i guess... Game looks so good, but PC CONTROLS are just worst i ever see.

In other DA games all was OK. This feels like you dont put even a small effort to your PC Fans.

 

Hope you will see and fix this.

[BammBamm]

Wow... to find this business models fair and ok is just an indication on how bad companies have been playing the consumer. Only thing I can agree on here is to wait days before release. Just keep in mind that we didn't have to do this 10 years ago

 

its not THESE business models its reality everywhere nowadays. coke will not refresh you it makes you fat, shaving foam will not give you girls but skincancer and cars will not give you more freedom but more bills to pay. do i like this? no but because i know its reality i can handle it

[Brogan]

I find it utterly baffling that somehow its EA/Bioware's fault for gamers having the expectation that a game designed on a SHOOTER engine could be played one handed and then to use this as a fraking justification to BLAME this bizzare expectation on the fact that you can't play the game one handed on the game was designed for consoles as well.

 

Yea, and I'm sure you'll be just as baffled when the patches come out and EA/Bioware ends up making some simple changes/compromises that make everybody happy.

 

Again, congrats to you on figuring out a suitable way to remap your keys.  Maybe we can all head over to your place this weekend and you can show us how you like to arrange your sock drawer.

[TobyJake]

Yes REALLY.

 

This is the typical arguement of some PC gamers I was talking about. I played DA:O and DA2 (Two not so much as I felt it was a bad game but this is what a 16 - 18 month development cycle will give you). SO don't try to give your argument some kind of extra authority it doesn't have by claiming past experience with previous games. First it assumes that past experience is not shared with people you disagree with and assumes past experience somehow equates with justification of expectations. It doesn't. Time and time again you were told this game was built on a FPS engine and time and time again you were told this game has similar but not identical controls to DA:O. I did not follow this game extensively until september/oct and even with my casual contact with the development of DA:I I KNEW these things. So if SOME PC gamers did not that is on them not EA or Bioware because they did tell you.

 

I am WISE enough to know games change, controls change and the only way games improve is if they CHANGE things that are not broken. Sometimes the changes are good sometimes they are not but invovation is vital to the industries survival. This is how we inovate, we have touch screens now because someone took a NOT broken system and changed it on our phones. So YES THEY SHOULD CHANGE SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT BROKEN.

 

I am sorry but Bioware NEVER promised you could play the game one handed. And its a stupid an argument as claiming there is no discriptive video so I can't play the game blind. yes its that stupid. Because your experiences from previous games mean nothing yes nothing. Bioware was VERY up front that this game was being made with a new engine and that engine was designed for a first person shooter. Name a shooter you can play one handed? They were also clear that there controls were similar to but not indetical to DA:O for the PC inerface.

 

They promised you could use mouse and keyboard controls and that the Ui would support it. And it does. The tac cam is 100% fully functional, its not perfect and the default bindings are sucky but that isn't anything new on computer games. i rebind almost all my controls in an MMO or the Witcher both PC only games so this idea that the default bindings are proof of a bad consol port is a strawman arguement at best at worst its delibertaly trying to misinform to strengthen your position. I think the only think you can't do in DA:I that you could in DA:O is click on loot and you auto run to pick it up. (Just an FYI you can click to move in tac cam)

 

Now if you expected to be able to play this game one handed and you can't thats tough luck, but you have or had the option to return the game. Origin has a liberal return policy. And anyone could have tried the game seen it can't be played with one hand and returned the game in said time window. So there can be ZERO claims to unfair business practises on that front.

 

I find it utterly baffling that somehow its EA/Bioware's fault for gamers having the expectation that a game designed on a SHOOTER engine could be played one handed and then to use this as a fraking justification to BLAME this bizzare expectation on the fact that you can't play the game one handed on the game was designed for consoles as well.

Good troll.

[shushNMD]

It's a toggle in the options.

I know it's a toggle, but it just doesn't work. After multiple reloads, I got it working only on my main character, the rest are still clean... Bugs...gotta love them. This is really the only glitch I've had with the game. No CTDs, no crashes, no flickering textures, companion banter is there, game is set on Ultra and runs with 60fps. But taccam be damned, this thing is like piloting a brick.

[Brighteyes53]

Are you planning on working on a patch for the skyhold? My companions continuously disappear and I've found that when I'm attempting to complete quests (main or side) that the markers jump around on the map. I'm constantly having to fast travel to another place and then travel back or completely reload the game just to work around this issue. Also, I completed the Red Lyrium Reapers quest and still haven't received my rewards, any way for me to fox this? Lastly would it be possible to have a storage chest at Skyhold? I don't like having to destroy or sell inventory that I might need because I have no room for anything new

[SnQQpy]

Not surprising at all...

 

In other news...  Windows 10 will have a start menu.

 

Thats because they at least accept they got it wrong 

 

BOT

My issue isn't whether BioWare misled anyone - they do however accept that they misjudged what PC players wanted from a Dragon Age game. If they don't/didn't accept that, why this>

 

With the release of Dragon Age: Inquisition, we've been hearing a number of concerns from members of our PC community, including:

• Driver support
•  
• Hitching and frame rate issues in cutscenes
•  
• Feedback on keyboard and mouse controls
•  
• General user interface optimizations for PC

 

They also acknowledge there are technical problems with a game they released - after telling everyone that they would delay the title for polishing -  and that the resulting experience would be worth the wait.

 

No my issue is that no one still has any idea what they will in effect fix and when and oh btw in the meantime we'll stick our heads in the sand * as the storm continues to blow right over our heads (* insert appropriate UI expletive description as you see fit)

 

Did they break promises, did they mislead it depends on your individual perspective but with the statements they made in the OP - that part is unquestionable proven.

 

My twopenneth

[Vash654]

 

They promised you could use mouse and keyboard controls and that the Ui would support it. And it does. The tac cam is 100% fully functional, its not perfect and the default bindings are sucky but that isn't anything new on computer games. i rebind almost all my controls in an MMO or the Witcher both PC only games so this idea that the default bindings are proof of a bad consol port is a strawman arguement at best at worst its delibertaly trying to misinform to strengthen your position. I think the only think you can't do in DA:I that you could in DA:O is click on loot and you auto run to pick it up. (Just an FYI you can click to move in tac cam)

 

Now if you expected to be able to play this game one handed and you can't thats tough luck, but you have or had the option to return the game. Origin has a liberal return policy. And anyone could have tried the game seen it can't be played with one hand and returned the game in said time window. So there can be ZERO claims to unfair business practises on that front.

 

I find it utterly baffling that somehow its EA/Bioware's fault for gamers having the expectation that a game designed on a SHOOTER engine could be played one handed and then to use this as a fraking justification to BLAME this bizzare expectation on the fact that you can't play the game one handed on the game was designed for consoles as well.

Ha you even admitted the tac cam is flawed.  Also i don't consider it 100% functional when it gets stuck on the ground or when you cant see anything from it being blocked by terrain.  For a AAA game you shouldn't have to get over the awkward controls and deal with it, it should have been designed for kyb+pc in the first place, and hopefully they will address it in upcoming patches.

 

That's pretty heartless btw, especially since anyone with a disability was able to play the past DA games.  And really it will only take a few changes to help them play, rebindings to mouse, click to move, rmb+lmb move, autoattack third person etc.  I hope for these gamers bioware is keeping them in mind for the patch.

[Brogan]

Thats because they at least accept they got it wrong 

 

I wonder if it's more a case of neglect, since even Allan admitted that most of the testing was done with a controller.

 

[BammBamm]

Ha you even admitted the tac cam is flawed.  Also i don't consider it 100% functional when it gets stuck on the ground or when you cant see anything from it being blocked by terrain.  For a AAA game you shouldn't have to get over the awkward controls and deal with it, it should have been designed for kyb+pc in the first place, and hopefully they will address it in upcoming patches.

 

That's pretty heartless btw, especially since anyone with a disability was able to play the past DA games.  And really it will only take a few changes to help them play, rebindings to mouse, click to move, rmb+lmb move, autoattack third person etc.  I hope for these gamers bioware is keeping them in mind for the patch.

 

stuck on the ground i never had and when terrain blocks your sight you can move the camera easily somewhere else. even if you can zoom out further you will have terrain blocking your sight, you know there are a lot of trees in this game.

 

and again, click to move is not as easy as some people think to implement, especially not in an open world game with great height differences.

[Ledath]

It is just me or vsync is broken? in full screen there is a lot of tearing, but of window full screen there is no tearing.