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[am0n]

Well looking through the post and Bioware replies, at least they are engaging the public - So I'll leave my comments there and trust that things will be fixed - thanks again Bioware, I look forward to playing your game eventually

 

Yeah, you have a really interesting definition of "engaging."  Given about all we've heard is "We're looking into it" two weeks after release, they are far from "engaging."  I've seen newly released games with smaller issues handled quicker.  And to many, the issues they are experiencing, are game breaking.

[Rogron]

Crist the game is full of bugs that i dont know how a tester could miss.
My qunari cant see half the armors.
Other people reported the same with other classes.

[Black33]

It would work just like it did in DAO and DA2.

RMB does exactly the same thing it does now, rotate cam, or said another way, steers. It only activates once you press LMB as well, which puts you into navigation mode walking (or running, assuming we get that toggle) forward. The attack feature would be unaffected (you don't attack by clicking both mouse buttons).

And it would an easy fix, since it's already part of the game for the wonky Tac Cam controls.

 

Ok, just wanted to make sure we weren't creating a new problem. We have plenty already. Thanks for clarifying.

[shaulys]

"Your feedback is important to us."

 

Sadly that's the best joke I've heard in a week...

 

Oh, and by the way does anyone from Bioware looks into why female characters acts like males in cutscenes (sitting, walking, standing)?

 

[Mithrandir75]

I'm tired. it's a shame. are 13 days to wait for a patch, and no news about, not even a word for half a million people who have spent their money for this game. The controls are a frustration for PC, and for those without a gamepad, after two weeks can not even start playing something paid 70 euro. At the upcoming PC game from Bioware, wait before buying

[Chaos17]

Totally off topic but it seems yu can't blacklist people on this forum...

[Alistaur]

I'm playing to the Zelda: The Wind Waker in the meantime.

 

Cute game. And their controls are ok

[Dubya75]

Good list. And the thing is, almost everything you listed here has been echoed all over this forum for the last 2 weeks plus. So it's very unlikely that any of these items are not already in the lab.

 

Thank you, Ser! I am well aware I have not mentioned anything new. Just trying to hammer it home some more

 

Maker knows, if they don't address these things...

[BammBamm]

You still here? Haven't made your point yet!

wow a post from you without the word troll, i'm impressed, there is still hope

[Netzachs]

- Spoilers, Bad Spelling and Poor Grammar may exist within this Post (it was made in a rush). Read with cuation! - Also, Bolded Points for TLDR
Bioware, first off, thanks for the game. I have a ton of issues with it, but overall I've managed to sink 100 hours into the game and it is absolutely wonderful. The issues I have with the game are hopefully only due to the fact you chose to release it early, in which case, good choice. I'd rather have a clunky poorly polished game to play over Thanksgiving than no game at all (it was the only week off my wife got and we both very much enjoyed the game). That said, it was an early release with a lot of failed to be met promises by your advertisement campaign. An official apology for not meeting expectations set by the company itself as well as some sort of token (a mount, cool weapon schematic or something to PC players? Do something in terms of, 'here is a gesutre we don't have to do for you, but we will because we care about the PC gaming comunity') will go a long way in restoring the trust of your PC gamer customer. I don't need to remind you how the poor handling of PR issues with SWTOR turned out. Jilted customers ignored is simply bad for business.
Now, the things I would like to see fixed.
1. Clarity in Numbers, Abilities, and Unlockables- I play multiplayer with a great bunch of guys a lot and I can't check my stats. I never know what my crit % is, my hit points are, or what my damage is at any given point in the game. What abilities stack with eachother? Does the archer +5% Crit chance stack with other archers? How do I get tier 3 schematics? You say "you can unlock schematics with prestiege..." so why is it that my friend who had  a ton more prestiege than I did, had all the same schematics?
This is frustrating. Multiplayer is a grind fest without PVP, so what is the harm in showing the numbers a bit? Let's not even get into research numbers. "Bonus damage against.." Really? You can't just say "+1% Damage against ..."? Numbers. They aren't hard. People aren't stupid. Some people like the math aspect of your games. Just read the Dragon age Origin boards.
2. Use for Excess Power- Power is easy to get. My wife is at 150, I'm at 200 almost. With gold we can get inquisition perks, how do we use power more effectively? Is there a way to directly exchange it to perks I'm missing?
3. Fast travel to the war room/ war room on the go options. This whole "warp to skyhold and walk to the war room" is a redundant  time eater that I'm sure a lot of us would like to do without. While it was cute at first, it grinds on the nerves over time. Do we really need 5 doors for one hallway too? A lot of the missions only require 10-15 minutes. With my slow load computer in addition to the long walk that means if I start a mission I have to come back after only 5 minutes to reset the agent to the next mission. Perhaps queue missions might also work?
4. Arena - I killed all 10 dragons (it didn't give me the achievement? Fail Origin) and now I have a ton of great loot. Where do I get to test it? Why isn't there an endless wave of monsters I can trigger to test my blade against. Give us an Arena style test to enjoy post game combat with our favorite new toys and craftables.
5. Dragons in Multiplayer- This should be common sense. The game is dragon age and I haven't been able to fight a single dragon in multiplayer. In fact, as much as I want multiplayer to work you've given me only 9 total possibilities to play against. The same set of 3 mobs, in 3 different arenas .. woopty freaking do. The real question is, why? You have 10 amazing and unique bosses that all posses their own challenge built into the game.. and the game was named after them. Can we see them in Multiplayer?
6. Enemy Choice in Multiplayer- Demons are awful. I don't wanna play them every single round 11 rounds in a row (I counted!). Let me pick my bad guy if you're going to give me less choices than the guy asking me which topics I want on my Big Mac.
7. More to do with Skyhold- A few dandy upgrades (3/2)? No real impact? If games that came out 10 years ago can do better, so can you. Maybe let us know you plan on fixing this and put it in an add on? I could live with that.
8. Broken Abilities and Rings - I love rampage. I got 2 rings for it. The duration is still 10 seconds. It should either be 13 (if the rings don't stack), 16 (if they stack additionally based on the main) or 16.9( 10 seconds * 1.3 * 1.3). So why is it still only 10 seconds? And why does it straight up not even work in multiplayer? How come Dragon Rage's "only 2%!" will drop me to almost no health in about 10 uses (my barrier/ guard are still intact so I know it's not damage from the enemy)? Is 2%*10 magically not only 20%? How come Twin fang rarely lands when you're literally touching the enemy's back? 
 

Please fix your game's abilities, the clarity in game mechanics, and add in a lot of the movement issues addressed before this post ( I can't tell you how many times I still try to use right click to open something to no avail). I think part of the community's let down is we believe that if this game was properly tested most of these issues would have surfaced and the fixes aren't that hard, though I can imagine fixing the tactical Camera would be a nightmare. So, to stop these type of issues in the future, I highly recommend either having a conversation with me, some of the others in here, or some people I know. In fact, I know a great number of good data miners besides myself that can help them build solid methodologies for making sure the game does/ acts in the way it is supposed to if they're interested... but at the moment, if I was in charge of the team responsible for testing this game, I'd be picking up some research books and looking for some new methodologies so this type of general unrest and upset feelings didn't occur.
For instance, not using the excuse "well I'm a WASD gamer so this didn't show up as a problem" and rather making sure that your game testers were built from a sample of each type of computer gamer that is going to purchase your game in bulk. Other companies don't sell a product for both genders and only test/ feedback with males of a certain age group. It ignores issues with over half your audience and it simply doesn't make sense.

Thank you for listening to this incredibly long, possibly redudant to previous posts (I read a few, but after a while the thread's length was a defense against being read) post. Also, Thank you for the game (even with this sloppy release, it's so much better than waiting more months) and your time and efforts in finally reaching out to the community to get the game on track. I hope this post helps you make the game better.

Also- I only speak for myself. Apologies if other gamers don't agree with my suggestions/ desires.

[c3lix]

I hope you guys know that your written wall of textes are a waste of time to read and that the devs don't care about your problems. They will release a patch with a few fixes but they will not recreate the game only for a few pc player. Console is where the money is.
The truth is, pc gaming is dead. I'm on pc myself. Just take a look at the last games since the new consoles are released. The games are all a bloody mess technically for pc. Sell your pc, buy a console, thats the message.

[Brogan]

Ok, just wanted to make sure we weren't creating a new problem. We have plenty already. Thanks for clarifying.

 

It's actually the least stressful way to navigate, from my experience.  Meaning at any time, you can let go of the mouse and relax your hand/arm and nothing major happens.  You just stop moving.

 

The whole point of implementing mouse based navigation is so you always have the option to go back to wasd for combat if you want, or for more difficult places to maneuver.

[Netzachs]

I hope you guys know that your written wall of textes are a waste of time to read and that the devs don't care about your problems. They will release a patch with a few fixes but they will not recreate the game only for a few pc player. Console is where the money is.
The truth is, pc gaming is dead. I'm on pc myself. Just take a look at the last games since the new consoles are released. The games are all a bloody mess technically for pc. Sell your pc, buy a console, thats the message.

Sometimes doing the only thing you can do even if it does nothing can at least let you know you tried.
That said, "Pc gaming is dead" doesn't make sense... Have you checked numbers? A company that releases a great game, like say, Diablo 3 and WoW, outsold all PS3 games to date.  These aren't small purchases, and one of them requires monthly payments and nets over 10 million subscribers.
If BioWare ever wants to get into that field, and actually learn how to make a solid pay to play model for their games, then they can read these posts about their games and build a case study/ customer research group to know which of these problems would/ does significantly impact their game, and why they didn't catch it the first time. Then find out why their competitors always outsell them/ maintain more customers in terms of their customer response methodology. It isn't hard. The numbers are clear and the reaction points are present in the data.
But you're right. It was likely a waste of time and I just wanted to vent my concerns with the game (I know you weren't just addressing me).

[Brogan]

I'm tired. it's a shame. are 13 days to wait for a patch, and no news about, not even a word for half a million people who have spent their money for this game. The controls are a frustration for PC, and for those without a gamepad, after two weeks can not even start playing something paid 70 euro. At the upcoming PC game from Bioware, wait before buying

 

half a million?

[ApocAlypsE007]

I hope you guys know that your written wall of textes are a waste of time to read and that the devs don't care about your problems. They will release a patch with a few fixes but they will not recreate the game only for a few pc player. Console is where the money is.
The truth is, pc gaming is dead. I'm on pc myself. Just take a look at the last games since the new consoles are released. The games are all a bloody mess technically for pc. Sell your pc, buy a console, thats the message.

LoL is a live tournament jaggurnaut with insane amounts of money, DotA 2 is not far, Blizzard games except for Diablo 3 all also do very well. In the RPG department we will have Pillars of Eternity and Witcher 3, and the Planescape Torment sequel. Even if AAA titles from Ubisoft and EA will cater to console players 1st, the PC market will remain important, many kickstarters and indy titles will be developed for PC.

 

So no, PC gaming is not dead and it won't be anytime soon.

[Brogan]

The truth is, pc gaming is dead. I'm on pc myself. Just take a look at the last games since the new consoles are released. The games are all a bloody mess technically for pc. Sell your pc, buy a console, thats the message.

 

Not really...

[Shelled]

I've got some other pc concerns now about this games anti-cheat. 

I joined a perilous difficulty multiplayer game today and this was the result... 

(1 hit kills in perilous with a staff lol, katari 1 hit k.o and speedhacking, later the other keeper is 1 hit killing enemies in perilous mode with chain lighting later in the video...)  

Some guy cheating and altering other peoples damage and removing their skills and whatnot. Ridiculous bioware. This is beyond sad. Is this 2014 or 2002...? P2P matchmaking doesn't work on PC guys. You either have dedicated servers or you accept everything that is bad from Peer 2 Peer on PC and own up to the consequences bioware.

Amateurs.......

 

[Neoideo]

We have to be patient. Bioware know that they released something 80% completefor PC. They probably thought  "ok we will release a patch later for the PC community, and everyone will be happy".

 

We need to keep making noise about this, but also be patient. A patch that compromises UI changes and other things, if it comes, it will take at least a month. We are talking about design modifications to the game, not simple patches. If we get a patch this week I will find hard that it will contain all that we request, it would probably be for the game crashes. So in that sense, it is not bad that the patch has not come yet.

 

Nevertheless, we need an update from Mark, we really need to know if you are hearing our comments and are making progress or not.

[BlackHawk01x]

So... almost two weeks now since release and I still cannot play more than the intro cause of directx crashes...

I know that there are patches in the works, and that one may come out soon... but could we at -least- get a word if the directx/driver issue is solved within this first patch or do people like me have to wait for patch #2 or even #3 to actually be able to play?

 

I want to show patience, I really try to, but slowly my patience really is at the limits, since we do not get a single word about that. A simple "Yes, the patch will fix the driver/directx issue" would be enough, but at the moment I kinda fear that the first patch will be a big disappointment for all the people who cannot play more than 5 minutes....

[Dubya75]

Not really...

 

Yeah, the "PC gaming is dead" is such a silly argument, echoed around like sheep bleating. It's like saying Ford is dead because...Toyota. 

 

Game companies do their market research BEFORE spending lots of money creating games to support any given platform.

No one would create games for PC if that silly argument was true.

[brzoz]

I hope you guys know that your written wall of textes are a waste of time to read and that the devs don't care about your problems. They will release a patch with a few fixes but they will not recreate the game only for a few pc player. Console is where the money is.
The truth is, pc gaming is dead. I'm on pc myself. Just take a look at the last games since the new consoles are released. The games are all a bloody mess technically for pc. Sell your pc, buy a console, thats the message.

 

i could never understand the fascination about consoles. i had ps one, the gray box, it's somewhere in the basement along with 2 or 3 games i played.

you cannot replace hardware to make it more up to date, you cannot use it for anything else than playing - i cannot imagine good shooters w/o precise targetting mouse offers, you cannot mod games... consoles are gutted PCs with only one funcionality.

if PC gaming is dead, so be it, at least i can use it to do something else than gaming.

 

maybe playing Star Citizen. because that's not a PC game, right?

[Mithrandir75]

quote name="Brogan" post="17953974" timestamp="1417613491"]half a million?[/quote]

There were more than 450 thousand views. Why do people come here to read the post, instead of playing? and even if we were only in a thousand, we all paid the 70 euro required, and we all have a right to assistance.

[MrHeartless]

You know what else is missing? Information. There are no tooltips, no proper stat tracking or anything. You hand in a research item and it doesn't even bother to tell you how much of damage bonus you received. There is nowhere to track approval (even if it doesn't really matter) and the attributes section is so retarded I don't even know why they bothered to include this.

 

Such major oversights for a game billed as made for PC. I can't even put more than 8 skills on my gosh darn hotbar. Played DA:O right before playing this and everything about the interface in that game was leagues better, LEAGUES.

 

Abysmal, Bioware should be ashamed. How can you be a man or woman and face the public and tell so much blatant lies. At some point your pride as a person should stop you, at some point your moral compass must kick in and alert you to the fact that these small missteps all contribute to your character and integrity. Imagine if all attorneys like myself adopted this approach, we'd have been drawn and quartered a century ago for toying with people's lives.

[Brogan]

I've got some other pc concerns now about this games anti-cheat. 

I joined a perilous difficulty multiplayer game today and this was the result... htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XuYmdrCtrk&feature=gp-n-o&google_comment_id=z13uvn4w1x2rsndxs04chrq5vyyacxohf24 

(1 hit kills in perilous with a staff lol, katari 1 hit k.o and speedhacking, later the other keeper is 1 hit killing enemies in perilous mode with chain lighting later in the video...)  

Some guy cheating and altering other peoples damage and removing their skills and whatnot. Ridiculous bioware. This is beyond sad. Is this 2014 or 2002...? P2P matchmaking doesn't work on PC guys. You either have dedicated servers or you accept everything that is bad from Peer 2 Peer on PC and own up to the consequences bioware.

Amateurs.......

 

 

Not multiplayer! 

 

 

Ohh.....  I had.....  I had *such* high hopes for multiplayer in my Dragon Age franchise....

[MrHeartless]

LoL is a live tournament jaggurnaut with insane amounts of money, DotA 2 is not far, Blizzard games except for Diablo 3 all also do very well. In the RPG department we will have Pillars of Eternity and Witcher 3, and the Planescape Torment sequel. Even if AAA titles from Ubisoft and EA will cater to console players 1st, the PC market will remain important, many kickstarters and indy titles will be developed for PC.

 

So no, PC gaming is not dead and it won't be anytime soon.

Just to add to your argument, Diablo 3 sold over 10 million copies and there is evidence to show that PC gaming brought in more money than Console gaming in 2013.